Who you got? Indiana or Miami?

Who wins the national championship?

  • Indiana

    Votes: 119 83.8%
  • Miami

    Votes: 23 16.2%

  • Total voters
    142

HailStout

Heisman
Jan 4, 2020
5,249
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Pretty sure Cignetti is going to kill the guys who dumped the Gatorade on him in their sleep
 

FreshAsHail

All-American
Nov 7, 2023
6,255
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The people who say NIL means we can’t compete. Indiana just went 16-0 and won the natty. If they can do it, anybody can.
Yea but I don't think they did it with NIL is the thing. This roster doesn't have a lot 4 star players and no 5 stars I don't think. They did this with an ELITE coach. NVM I misread your post...ugh
 

onewoof

Heisman
Mar 4, 2008
14,832
12,915
113
Yea but I don't think they did it with NIL is the thing. This roster doesn't have a lot 4 star players and no 5 stars I don't think. They did this with an ELITE coach. NVM I misread your post...ugh
Trust me they bought the players they wanted. Several will be first round picks.
 
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FlotownDawg

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Aug 30, 2012
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Yea but I don't think they did it with NIL is the thing. This roster doesn't have a lot 4 star players and no 5 stars I don't think. They did this with an ELITE coach.
NIL and transfer portal means that blue bloods can’t just stockpile athletes at every position. The talent is more spread out now. More teams have a chance to compete for titles.
 
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Perd Hapley

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Sep 30, 2022
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The people who say NIL means we can’t compete. Indiana just went 16-0 and won the natty. If they can do it, anybody can.
I think its a bit misleading to say that just because XYZ Big 10 school with 60,000 students, 800,000 living alumni (most with well-paying jobs / advanced degrees), and several billionaire donors including Mark Cuban did something, that anybody can do it.

I don’t think many people realize how much more money literally every B1G school has, as compared to about just about every SEC school except UF, Texas, and Texas A&M.

Put another way, could Wake Forest do what IU just did? Could Kansas State? Could Houston, or Central Florida? I don’t think so.

NIL brought new players into the game. There’s no question about that. But money still drives all of it. Schools like MSU were at a disadvantage there before, but still had some geographic advantages and some things in their favor when all payments were under the table that put a soft cap on the market and gave them recruiting advantages at least over most schools outside the SEC. That’s now gone, and the whole SEC has been taken down a peg by the NIL environment.
 

L4Dawg

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Oct 27, 2016
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Yea but I don't think they did it with NIL is the thing. This roster doesn't have a lot 4 star players and no 5 stars I don't think. They did this with an ELITE coach. NVM I misread your post...ugh
They spent plenty according to what I've read.
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
56,611
25,907
113
I don’t think many people realize how much more money literally every B1G school has, as compared to about just about every SEC school except UF, Texas, and Texas A&M.
Saw a clip from Colin Cowherd. I know he's an anti-SEC blowhard, but what he said made some sense. He said only about 10 elite college football programs will survive at the top in this new era. Only SEC schools were Texas, A&M (and maybe Florida). Others were Texas Tech (oil money), Notre Dame, Ohio St., Oregon, Indiana, maybe Michigan and/or Miami, and Southern Cal. Said he's not sure about Georgia. They've got some money, but there's like 15 Fortune 500 companies headquartered in Georgia, there are over 50 in Texas and California. These schools all just have a LOT more money than anyone in the SEC besides the 3 you mention and maybe Georgia. We'll see. But so far, he's being proved right. Big 10
 
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Perd Hapley

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Trust me they bought the players they wanted. Several will be first round picks.
Well, they have Mendoza as a 1st rounder, and obviously that’s a pretty big deal. He’s probably the only 1st rounder, though. They have a LT and a couple WR’s that will go in Top 3-4 rounds. Beyond that, they have a team full of Bookie Watsons….older experienced players that are pretty good but not elite. That’s the core of the team. But those guys cost a lot of money, too.
 

onewoof

Heisman
Mar 4, 2008
14,832
12,915
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Well, they have Mendoza as a 1st rounder, and obviously that’s a pretty big deal. He’s probably the only 1st rounder, though. They have a LT and a couple WR’s that will go in Top 3-4 rounds. Beyond that, they have a team full of Bookie Watsons….older experienced players that are pretty good but not elite. That’s the core of the team. But those guys cost a lot of money, too.

First 2 rounds NFL rospects from Indiana and Miami. What is crazy is that both teams have freshmen and sophomores that would be drafted if they were ellible yet. Both schools are expected to have 5 go in the first 2 rounds. This narrative that "Indiana doesn't buy players" is about as naive as saying Bama never has and never will.


INDIANA FIRST ROUND
  • Medoza (QB)
  • Smith (OT)
  • Sarratt (WR)
  • Ponds (CB)
INDIANA SECOND ROUND
  • Cooper (WR)

MIAMI FIRST ROUND
  • Baine (Edge)
  • Mauigoa (OT)
  • Mesidor (Edge)
MIAMI SECOND ROUND
  • Scott (CB)
  • Beck (QB)
 

POTUS

Heisman
Sep 29, 2022
3,884
10,282
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No one is saying all you need is money. You still have to hire a good coach who can evaluate talent and bring in the right folks. But the schools with money are going to be able to snatch up those guys more easily. So yeah, it's a new world, but we're in the exact same place we were before, maybe a little lower.
 
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Perd Hapley

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First 2 rounds NFL rospects from Indiana and Miami. What is crazy is that both teams have freshmen and sophomores that would be drafted if they were ellible yet. Both schools are expected to have 5 go in the first 2 rounds. This narrative that "Indiana doesn't buy players" is about as naive as saying Bama never has and never will.


INDIANA FIRST ROUND
  • Medoza (QB)
  • Smith (OT)
  • Sarratt (WR)
  • Ponds (CB)
INDIANA SECOND ROUND
  • Cooper (WR)

MIAMI FIRST ROUND
  • Baine (Edge)
  • Mauigoa (OT)
  • Mesidor (Edge)
MIAMI SECOND ROUND
  • Scott (CB)
  • Beck (QB)
Smith, Sarratt, Ponds, and Cooper do not have 1st/2nd round grades. Nowhere near unanimously, anyway. Most sites have all of them going 3rd-5th round. That’s not saying one couldn’t have a good combine and sneak into the 1st round, but I guarantee you 100% that IU does not have four 1st round picks in the 2026 draft.