If this were true, you would expect obesity rates to have gone down in the last 20+ years, but instead they have gone up...
Why are Mississippi Folks so fat?
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I was under the impression that some of the Reds were banned, but looking now I only see Red No. 3 and a couple of others banned. A few more carry warnings.
Agreed. Start trying to get fresh fruits and vegetables and costs go up, organic even more so and any processed food that is remotely "healthy" is at a premium. Some mix of cost/unwillingness to prepare your own food exists. If you don't have any transportation and the closest store is Dollar General, you are paying a premium for everything (per quantity). Mix all that up with high poverty, and high crime that comes with it, causing some of the few remaining grocers in some areas to close due to theft and it's a complex problem.
All that is without getting into the fact that if someone wants to be healthy, they can at least control strength/physical fitness all with body weight, assuming no pre-existing condition that prevents activity.
It is complex enough that I don't feel right completely adopting a "made your own bed, lie in it philosophy", but I also cannot articulate a fail proof solution.
Life expectancy has mostly gone up mostly because of eliminating childhood deaths. The life expectancy of a 60 year old has gone up, but over the past century, but not as much.
My arguement against diet being down the list, is that if I can dictate your diet, I can dictate your weight. And without doing anything crazy draconian. Even if you respond by becoming completely sedentary, I can put your diet at something that is perfectly reasonable as far as the amount of food and you won't be able to be fat.
All the other things people claim can't do that. If I can dictate exercise, I can't really come up with a reasonable exercise regime that will overcome somebody that eats 2,000 empty calories a day. If you claim poverty makes people fat, I can't make them unfat by giving them money. If it's food deserts, putting a neighborhood walmart next door to them won't make them stop being obese. But if I can limit a fat person to 2,000 calories, I can make them lose weight. Maybe if it's female and they go completely sedentary, you might have to limit it to 1,700 before they get to a healthy bodyweight. And while I can get them to lose weight with a pretty unhealthy diet, I can also provide a diet that is healthy and cheap and will leave them sated (at least once they detox from all their sugar and junk cravings).
One of the best things you can do for your finances is cultivating a love for cooking and cultivating a love for beans, chicken thighs, canned tuna, sardines, etc. I have tried with my kids and have failed on the latter but have at least cultivated a competency in cooking if not a love of it.
I really enjoy cooking. It is pretty uncommon that we don't have something around that I can turn into a meal. I try to keep healthy proteins around (chicken & salmon), brown rice, quinoa and make rice and veggie bowls with some protein on top often. I keep the frozen salmon and chicken from Sams/Costco for times when I don't have time to get fresh. It often saves me from declaring we have nothing and going to eat a basket of chips at the local mexican place.
Better choices could change the world in countless ways.
I’m not gonna take time to read all these responses, but I sure hope none of you a-holes tried to blame someone’s personal decisions for why their shoes are leaning
Because we eat too dang much.
Yes they have. Flu shots. And still there are amounts in childhood and adolescent vaccines. Not to mention there are lots of obese 24 year olds and older here and West Virginia.
From 2010 to 2020, the CDC reported obesity rates among children enrolled in WIC actually decreased. This is noteworthy especially after a period of rapid increase.
Obesity rates are going to follow poverty rates. Very easy and cheap to get calories in MS, but hard to get nutrition.
Mississippi is a food desert.
Mississippi is a food desert.
Common sense definitely tells us discipline is good and I don't mean timeout.
You don't have to like it but there are plenty of things he's right about. If you don't believe that you are stupid AF.
Is he out there on some stuff? Sure but hes right about a lot.
You have disguised yourself well as "conservative", but you are going full horshack now!
And we allow the poorest people who "need" assistance and are often the most fat get soda and chips with their food stamps!!
But you just said thiomersal was still in vaccines so how can you credit its removal for the decrease in obesity (I wasn't able to verify and will take your word for it) in a small subset of the population?
How do you define food insecurity?
Is it that great question "have you went to bed hungry in the last month"? I mean i have went to bed hungry every 17ing night this month. I'm not poor and i'm not fat (also not really skinny either).
It's not just Mississippi and West Virginia, and part of the problem is because being fat is sort of acceptable nowadays, particularly in young women. Body-shaming is a no-no. They're told to "love their body" but need to instead "love their health" and stop eating so much junk and get some exercise.
Yeah so you are focused on the wrong but you let a man who pretended to be a woman run our HHS without saying a word.
One has a lot more mental problems than the other.
That doesn't counter what I posted.
There are countless ways to effectively discipline that don't include spanking.
The claim was that spanking is good common sense and your post does not support that insane claim.
You can dance around it all you want.
Do you think spanking a child is bad? It’s not.
When you say diet are you talking about the food people eat and how much of it they eat? Or just the food they eat?
I’d consider someone’s diet to both the food they eat and the portions. I would agree that someone can eat almost anything and stay within a healthy caloric intake and probably be thin.
But I don’t understand how you think this can anything than the most important factor, in particular portion control. I’m sure you can eat every meal at McDonald’s and if you keep your daily caloric intake less than 2,000, you’re probably thin… not healthy though. If you eat a super size Big Mac meal twice a day, you’re gonna be fat, I don’t care what your genetics are and how much you sleep and exercise.
After 2001, most childhood vaccines no longer contained thimerosal. Supposedly much smaller or traces amounts are still in some vaccines. Flu shot vaccines still contain thimerosal.
I used to have a rich step uncle that was a Jew. His first wife was a bigger obese woman from West Virginia. He would always say he only married her because she was worth her weight in gold.
You have isolated the only variable that can INCREASE your weight and decided it has a low level of importance in determining obesity. It’s really funny.
Agree 100%.
Cook unprocessed, sensible, and reasonably healthy food at home for 95% of what you eat.
Doing this will save you money and make you healthier.
You weren't even aware of the term 'food desert' until earlier today.
...but you are now fully up to date and confident this well established socioeconomic concept is BS.
17ing clowntime.
Just because you MAGATs choose the trans as your irrational scapegoats for everything doesn’t mean they RFK isn’t a total dipshit. But nice try
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