Why do the Bengals always crap the bed?
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I never said all those people were from Kentucky.
So in your view, the only real Reds fans live in Cincy!? Not Ohio, just Cincy?!?
Lol
lol...I must have missed the first time you smacked me around.
you've proven yourself the biggest moron on this board. I didn't have to do anything.
No, I'm not...I don't like the Steelers...had favorite players that I followed, not favorite teams.
But it is silly to call someone bandwagon if they have followed a team and only one team after they were old enough to pick it. Maybe they picked them when they were successful, but they also kept them when they sucked.
wcc31, biggest MORON on this board!!!
And I'm still waiting to hear you try to justify why MILLIONS of sports fans around the country, who have no "connection" to any pro sports city, have no right to pick a team, especially when they do so as a young kid.
You aren't a "sports snob", you are a "city snob". Unable to comprehend what it's like not living in/near a big city.
wcc31's argument is possibly one of the dumbest I have ever heard. Has to be a troll. Don't feed them and they will go away.
But on the flip-side of that it did get me thinking. Back in the day when most of UK's games were only showed on delay after the evening news, I was probably a UK football fan for years before I saw an actual game. Basketball is a little harder to remember, but I certainly listened to a lot of games before I ever saw one. It's kind of a shame that kids today don't have that same experience. There was nothing like listening to Cawood and using your imagination to see the game.
But on the flip-side of that it did get me thinking. Back in the day when most of UK's games were only showed on delay after the evening news, I was probably a UK football fan for years before I saw an actual game. Basketball is a little harder to remember, but I certainly listened to a lot of games before I ever saw one. It's kind of a shame that kids today don't have that same experience. There was nothing like listening to Cawood and using your imagination to see the game.
Fairly written. Both sides were guilty. Refs have become very questionable in sports both college and pro sports. Especially recently.
People are fans of the team, not the city. I happen to have been to Pittsburgh for a few days but that doesn't affect who I root for. I've been to one NFL game in my life and that was Falcons-Saints, I'd hate to have to root for one of those for the rest of my days. Everybody watches their teams on television so they don't have to live next door to the stadium.
Evidently to be considered a real fan by WCC you have to root for a bad team located within 30 miles of your house.
lolz, JonathanW pwnd wcc like I pwn other network's sitcoms in the ratings. :100points:
You come at JonathanW, you come at Chuck, ho
You come at JonathanW, you come at Chuck, ho
I can't say I agree. There's no doubt that the officiating sucked on both sides but it was Pac Man Jones who made the call on who won. I have never in my life seen any NFL team flagged for having staff on the the field, especially during an injury TO and it was a good no-call on Porter, just like it was a good no-call on Cincy after the Shazier hit. The Shazier hit, by the way, was legal, it is not a crown-of-helmet penalty if the contact is incidental and Bernard ducked his head into Shazier's helmet.
Actually I don't agree with the author. Think about where the game was at before the 28 second mark. Refs had made bad calls for both teams. The Bengals could easily argue that a flag should have been thrown on Shazier for his hit on Bernard. The Steelers could argue that the Refs robbed them of a touchdown because of the fumble recovery. These are just two examples and there were lots of others throughout the game. But also in this game was an example of players making plays, and eventually it coming down to 28 seconds and who could make the play to win the game. Were we going to see the Bengals make a big stop on defense, or were the Steelers going to make a big play on offense.
What we got, and what the article ignores, was a selfish and horrible act by a couple of players who still do not want to take responsibility for their actions. The latest example of this is Adam Jones claiming that Brown was faking the injury. Meanwhile we are hearing from the league office that is most likely Brown will not be cleared by the concussion protocol to play this weekend. And even if the injury wasn't real, the action was still a penalty. Why do it?
Jones and Burfict have so far blamed Antonio Brown, the Refs and Joey Porter for what happened, but have never ever put anything on themselves or apologized to their teammates. Porter may or may not have had any business on that field. Again it is debatable. What isn't debatable is that Porter did not make Jones run into a Referee. He did that all on his own. And by doing so he cost his team.
Take responsibility for your actions and understand how it hurts your team and their fans. This should have been an epic ending. The article that was linked would have never been written. Instead it would have focused on a wounded QB leading his team back, or an amazing comeback by a team who refused to be denied despite all their adversity. Instead we get more and more images of a player who appears to constantly try to injure his opponents, while his teammate wants to make excuses for it.
All you people who think you like John Wayne movies, you're not real Duke fans, you never met the man in your life, just bandwagon fans.
You are exactly correct. In fact, I switched over to ESPN after the game to watch some of the post game interviews and they had a rules official on. He said the Shazier hit Bernard was absolutely illegal and should have been called. He said all this discussion about whether or not Bernard had become a runner is irrelevant. He said, by rule, you cannot lead with the crown of the helmet.
Yes, I'm saying that a rule that is never called should not suddenly start being called with 30 seconds to go in a playoff game. By the way, Porter wasn't antagonizing anybody while he was on the field. He was standing over by Brown talking to the refs when Gilberry came up behind him and shoved him. And you only quoted the first part of the crown of the helmet rule. Here's the whole thing:
Rule 12, Section 2, Article 8. Initiating Contact With the Crown of the Helmet. It is a foul if a runner or tackler initiates forcible contact by delivering a blow with the top/crown of his helmet against an opponent when both players are clearly outside the tackle box (an area extending from tackle to tackle and from three yards beyond the line of scrimmage to the offensive team's end line). Incidental contact by the helmet of a runner or tackler against an opponent shall not be a foul.
When Bernard ducked his head into Shazier's helmet that made the contact incidental, thus no penalty.
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Porter's role on the field was to check on his injured player. And the rule does allow for what are deemed helpers to come on the field. It does not define who those helpers are. Once again it is up to the discretion of the refs and I doubt a flag for having too many coaches on the field during an injury has ever been thrown in the history of the league. The Bengals did the exact same thing when Bernard was injured, so if there are flags it should have occurred on both occasions.
As for Porter's behavior there is film of almost the entire exchange he has on the field. He is basically leaving the field with Brown and the training staff.. Burfict comes over and puts his hand on Brown's shoulder pad and says something. As he is doing this he interferes with the Steeler trainer who tries to push him out of the way. Burfict jerks his hand and accidentally hits Porter in the face. Porter turns to talk to the ref and then the Bengals DE Gillberry walks over and pushes Porter from behind and starts saying something to Porter. Other Bengals crowd around. The Refs get involved, the Steelers players come over to pull Porter back and then Jones runs in to get involved and hits the ref in the process. Clips to support this can be found here and here.
I have no idea what Porter said, but he wasn't doing anything towards a Bengals player before contact was made with him. If the incident where Burfict accidentally hits him in the face doesn't occur most likely no one would have ever even known Porter was on the field. Which comes back once again to Burfict doing the wrong thing at the wrong time. Even if he wanted to say something supportive to Brown, why does that have to involve shoving someone on the training staff who is just trying to do their job.
As for Porter's behavior there is film of almost the entire exchange he has on the field. He is basically leaving the field with Brown and the training staff.. Burfict comes over and puts his hand on Brown's shoulder pad and says something. As he is doing this he interferes with the Steeler trainer who tries to push him out of the way. Burfict jerks his hand and accidentally hits Porter in the face. Porter turns to talk to the ref and then the Bengals DE Gillberry walks over and pushes Porter from behind and starts saying something to Porter. Other Bengals crowd around. The Refs get involved, the Steelers players come over to pull Porter back and then Jones runs in to get involved and hits the ref in the process. Clips to support this can be found here and here.
I have no idea what Porter said, but he wasn't doing anything towards a Bengals player before contact was made with him. If the incident where Burfict accidentally hits him in the face doesn't occur most likely no one would have ever even known Porter was on the field. Which comes back once again to Burfict doing the wrong thing at the wrong time. Even if he wanted to say something supportive to Brown, why does that have to involve shoving someone on the training staff who is just trying to do their job.
Actually I think it violates the rule as I think only the head coach and training staff are allowed on the field. But like I've said the rule is never called, wasn't even called on the Bengals earlier in the game, it would have been incredibly unfair to spring it on Porter with 30 seconds to go. If the refs were of a mind to enforce the rule at least a prior warning would have been fair as it's never called. Good no call in my opinion.
This is after the Shazier hit:
The rule is the rule in both cases. In Shazier's case the rule means his hit was legal. In Porter's case, while he may have been in violation of a rule(and I don't object to a fine for it after the game) there certainly shouldn't have been any penalties called since the refs, and not just these refs but everyone who's ever officiated a football game, had never called it before, even during this game. If they suddenly thought they just had to enforce that obscure little rule they would have at least owed Porter a warning and a chance to get off the field. Jones, on the other hand, lost his mind and made contact with a ref. This will get you 15 yards EVERY time and everyone knows it.
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Do you know who the Steelers gave their game ball to?? Joey Freaking Porter. :joy::joy::joy: If that doesnt tell you that he went out there with the intention of stirring ****, I dont know what does. Seriously, a franchise sent a worthless piece of human trash on the field, stirred some **** and got a penalty on the other team, and their grammatically challenged coach who uses double and triple negatives gave him the game ball in front of the entire team and they cheered.
If that doesnt bother you, then youre an idiot.
Try again, that's a myth, thanks for playing
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...-a-game-ball-from-steelers-after-bengals-game
Shazier's hit is no more violent or intentional than the hit on Wheaton that happened earlier in the game. They are actually both very similar. The main difference is that Shazier missed most of Bernard's helmet and caught him on the chin resulting in a concussion. If he hits him helmet to helmet he probably doesn't get hurt because the facemask would have protected Bernard. And, again, it could be flagged. I have no problems arguing for it. But it certainly wasn't a case of targeting. Shazier is clearly trying to get lower on Bernard throughout the entire play.
Why Burficts play is different from both of these is because in the previous situations the defender is trying to make a tackle on a player with the ball. Burfict on the other hand, hits a defenseless player after he has no chance of making a play. The ball is well past him and the only purpose for making that hit is to hurt the player.
Why Burficts play is different from both of these is because in the previous situations the defender is trying to make a tackle on a player with the ball. Burfict on the other hand, hits a defenseless player after he has no chance of making a play. The ball is well past him and the only purpose for making that hit is to hurt the player.
All this stuff does is make a bad situation worse. The whole Porter got a game ball was started by a Bengals radio person as a joke and somehow it has a become a fact.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...-a-game-ball-from-steelers-after-bengals-game
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...-a-game-ball-from-steelers-after-bengals-game
********, ESPN has an article up saying that several Steelers players said, "He was definitely our MVP." LOL
Look, the Steelers coaching staff is worse than Burfict and Pacman combined. They really are. Ive never heard of a coach pulling a players hair, Ive never heard of a coach going on to the field before a game and calling the other team MFers and saying he wanted to fight them, and Ive never ever heard of a head coach that supports that type of behavior and doesnt do anything about it. Nothing. But, when that coach has tripped a player returning a kick for a TD because hes still a street thug piece of **** who talks like Doughboy from Boyz in the Hood, its understandable. And whats more understandable is that Steeler fans embrace and support this behavior. Its comical. THESE ARE COACHES!!!!
It's a damn joke you idiot, it damn sure doesn't mean they gave him a game ball, you'll just believe anything you read on the internet- geesh
And by the way, even while he was out there it wasn't him antagonizing the Bengals, it was the other way around. He's out there checking on Brown, didn't have any contact with any of the Bengals--then ******* #1- Burfict accidentally smacks him in the face but he still doesn't engage them, just turns around and starts talking to the refs then ******* #2- Gillberrry like the coward he is comes up behind him and shoves him in the back, then he starts jawing with them and ******* #3- Jones decides he wants to go all Walker Texas Ranger on one of the refs to get to him and the rest is history.
And now im watching PTI and they are showing and discussing the cheap shot that Wallace, a Steeler lineman, did to a DB in the last Broncos and Steelers game and how the Broncos have sworn vengeance. Just another example of Steelers and their fans being hypocritical hunks of ****. Never seen anything like.
Where's the hypocrisy? Wallace has a reputation for being a cheap shot artist, you haven't seen me defend him. Can't wait for Pouncey to get back
Since learning that I've been a bandwagon fan for 40 years, I just wanted to say it was fun being a part of the BBN but I'm going to have to start rooting for Vandy. I can be in downtown Nashville in an hour but would take me over 4 hours to be in Lexington.
You do realize that rules officials have come out and said the Shazier hit was absolutely illegal, right? Forgive us if we take the experts opinion over yours. You will say anything to justify your team. That is what fans do.
That's funny because I've been hearing the precise opposite, even from Mike Pereira, nfl rules guru and "most trusted man on Sundays" according to Bleacherreport.com and since I can read the rules for myself I don't even need their input, incidental contact is not a penalty even with crown of helmet-period. Sorry, I know you need to find anything you can to come up with an excuse for your pathetic team but you're going have to find another excuse to whine about.
And now you resort to insults etc because you have been called out for your hypocrisy...You are like every other Steeler fan...a hypocrite...If that wasn't a penalty, then the penalty in the first half on the tackle of Bryant should have been...He took more steps than Bernard and was hit with a shoulder...Let me guess, you think they got that call right...No need to respond, I already know the answer.
I consider someone saying I will say anything to justify my team to be an insult. You're free to think that but don't be a whiny Bengals fan and complain when someone insults you back
And it WASNT A PENALTY, it was the correct call, you may not like it but the rule is clear. Leading with the crown of the helmet is usually a penalty BUT if the contact is incidental then it is not. When Bernard lowered his head and made contact with Shazier that made it incidental contact. Sorry but complain about the rule not its correct enforcement