There was no ducking.
Wasn't there. Didn't happen.
YOU. ARE. COMPLETELY. MAKING. THAT. UP.
Why do the Bengals always crap the bed?
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There was no ducking.
Wasn't there. Didn't happen.
YOU. ARE. COMPLETELY. MAKING. THAT. UP.
Even if it's an obscure rule, jones never would have reacted if porter wasn't on the field.
Porter instigated the entire fiasco and will be fined for it. PORTER WAS THE DIRECT CAUSE OF JONES LOSING HIS MIND. So if you're going to flag the responder you have to flag the instigator.
Wow, a Burfict's nuts mascot, yeah, that'd get us good. And here we are with just our SIX Lombardi trophies.
No you don't have to. We could do this all year, and it looks like we're going to, if you don't flag the Bengals for having staff on the field then you don't flag the Steelers for having staff on the field. Pretty damn simple. And Jones probably wouldn't have been flagged if he hadn't run into a ref, that gets you 15 yards EVERY SINGLE TIME. Doesn't matter why, doesn't matter what else happened, doesn't matter if your mommy didn't love you enough. EVERY SINGLE TIME.
How the hell do you morons not understand this? You have to cross 2 state borders to get to pittsburgh and go PAST Cincinnati for 90% of the state population to get there. Cincy is literally 150 yards from kentucky.
On the other hand, the university of kentucky IS IN KENTUCKY.
Maybe if you wanted to make a consistent argument you would say vandy vs. Pitt. But no... You fools have to use a completely invalid argument.
No, Brown didn't try to avoid Burfict. That's not why that's a penalty. It's a completely different rule, you might try reading them some time.
Of course you dumbasses think that the NFL officials should ignore your ******** shenanigans that violate "obscure rules." You've built a ******* franchise on that mentality.
How the hell do you lead with the crown of the helmet if someone is running away from you? And do you honestly think THAT was the intent of the rule when the NFL wrote it? Those viscious hits when someone is chased down from behind?
I swear. Steelers fans will delve to depths of pure stupidity to justify their tainted wins. Or maybe they're just stupid....
I've read the rule. You are out of mind and can't look objectively at the play if you think it was incidental contact.
You do realize the Steelers also had staff on the field after the Bernard hit, correct? And the ref had to hold back one of the Steelers players in the scrum after that play, correct?
So yes, just another post filled with ********. There's video, so go watch it before you make another ignorant post.
And calling a play where one player smashes the crown of his helmet into another's facemask, "incidental contact" is the most retarded thing I've ever heard.
I'm just a casual Bengals fan and not really broken up at all over the loss, but jesus your delusion is over the top.
Yup... Porter was so ******* concerned about brown HE HAS HIS ******* BACK TURNED AWAY FROM HIM AS HE IS HOBBLING OFF THE FIELD AND HE IS YAPPING AT A GROUP OF BENGALS.
This just proves you're a fool that is simply seeing what they want to see.
Oh wait... Your previous 40 posts established that.
So you're saying that Brown DID try to avoid Burfict while he was in mid- air? And that's your response to someone suggesting you read the rules. Typical Bengals fan, can't deal with facts.
I'm out of my mind, the refs who made the call were out of their minds, the announcers in the booth were out of their minds, Mike Carey their rules expert was out of his mind, Mike Pereira is out of his mind. Just one big asylum outside of Cincinnati
That's the point --- the refs NEVER call that penalty. Don't think it would be a very good idea to start calling it with 30 seconds left in a playoff game, especially after letting it go in the previous quarter.
It's pretty damned clear that both feet hit the ground, he sees burfict coming and he drops his head to try to avoid the contact.
Pretty clear to everyone but you...
I think it's kind of awesome that Jones is telling Brown to put his money where his mouth is. He'll formally apologize if Brown misses the game. "If you're truly hurt, then you won't be playing."
Burfict has some issues, obviously. But it sounds like Brown sold the injury. Burfict just put him on full blast. Smart move.
Burfict has some issues, obviously. But it sounds like Brown sold the injury. Burfict just put him on full blast. Smart move.
Actually the intent of the rule was to prevent guys from lining up against each other like two bighorn rams and charging with their heads down right at each other( this is from Mike Pereira too, but what the hell does he know?) It certainly wasn't meant to apply to a guy making a tackle in the open field.
So you think it was a good idea for the refs to call two 15 yard penalties in one play with 20 seconds left in a playoff game (when was the last time at any point in any game has an official done this?) when they let the game get out of hand up to that point (the ******** no call on bernard, decastro tackling burfict 5 seconds after a play was over and 20 yards away from where the play was occurring, etc.). Of course you weirdos think that.
You are clueless and apparently mike pereira is too. The rule says that it has to occur outside the tackle box. When in the ******* course of ANY NFL game are players more likely to be "lining up against each other like two bighorn rams and charging with their heads down right at each other" than they are to be making an open field tackle when they are outside the tackle box? I've literally never seen a single ******* instance of players lining up against each other outside the tackle box.
Refs didn't have much choice with the behavior of Burfict and Jones. YOU NEVER MAKE CONTACT WITH AN OFFICIAL --- NEVER, NEVER, NEVER.
I listened to the Mike Pereira interview. You are putting a lot more confidence behind his words than he did. He stuttered when talking about the Bernard hit and didn't act like it was a definitive answer to the question. He even said the play is something the rule committee needs to look at. He added a bunch of conditions that isn't written into the rule to justify the hit and he admitted that it is not in the rule. He said the rule is for when two people line up on each other and lower their helmets. He said you can use the crown of your helmet in every other situation except when two people line up on each other and lower their helmets. That is not written anywhere in the rule and he admitted that. He also said he did not like the rule when they brought it into the league because it can't be officiated consistently. Even though he would have called it that way, he wasn't adamant that he way was the only way you could look at the call. I understood his point, but his view of the play adds a lot of conditions that aren't in the rules in order to come to his conclusion. The bottom line is that it is a stupid rule the way it is written and enforced.
Another interesting thing he said was in regard to the Burfict hit. He said the defender is liable no matter what if a hit takes place to the head of a defenseless receiver. Even if the receiver changes his position and the defender cannot adjust, the defender is strictly liable if contact is made to the head. That, in and of itself, makes the NFL a joke. A person or team should never be penalized for something they cannot control. Doing so makes your sporting events a complete joke.
He also said if Porter was on the field running his mouth that that should have been considered in the Jones penalty. He said he doesn't know what happened so he doesn't want to say what should have been done, but he did say that if Porter was instigating, he should have been flagged.
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Well, gee, thank you for telling me what I've been telling you. Pereira agrees with me. You sure seem to be putting a lot more weight into his "kind of stuttering" than you do for what he actualy said. Pretty damn funny. So he said that YOU CAN USE THE CROWN OF YOUR HELMET EXCEPT FOR WHEN TWO PEOPLE ARE LINED UP AGAINST EACH OTHER AND LOWER THEIR HEADS? Gee, could have sworn someone else said that a few minutes ago. OH YEAH, IT WAS ME!! So was Porter instigating anything? Obviously not, he was standing there talking and Burfict, Gilberry and Jones started f'ing around. Check the video above from 420Grover. Thanks for proving every single thing I've said.
You're missing the point. The rule doesn't say what he said and he admitted it doesn't. So you have a situation where officials are adding crap to rules instead of adhering to what the rule actually says. What about the part where he said the rules committee needs to look at this play to see how they want it called. Does that sound like he is 100% sure. How about where he said he hates the rule because it can't be officiated consistently? All of those things indicate it's way to subjective and is a joke.
http://www.steelersdepot.com/2016/0...een-steelers-joey-porter-and-bengals-players/
Per usual, you're dead wrong. Watch the video in the link above. Porter is right behind Brown and walking off the field until he makes contact with Burfict. The only reason his back gets turned is because Gilberry pushes him you GD moron. 26 years and counting.
Does he have to be 100% sure? What percentage of certainty does he have to attain before his opinion bears weight for you. He says it was a clean hit, has been saying that since it happened and gee, that's exactly how it was called on the field, exactly how it was seen in the booth and exactly how it was analyzed by the former NFL ref the network hires to advise them on the rules. Man, maybe it was a clean hit.
And the NFL can look at it all they want in the offseason, maybe they want to change the rule, maybe they want to look at the rule that says a forward pass is legal. Doesn't make it any less legal THIS season.
Hopefully Burfict and pacman get some therapy this off-season. No idea how Bengal fans can support those psychos.If they weren't elite athletes, they'd be in prison guaranteed.
What you are failing to acknowledge is that there are other current rules officials who said it wasn't a legal tackle. It is not as black and white as you are making it out to be. In Perreira's opinion, albeit not as strong as yours, he said it was a clean hit but he could see how some could say it was illegal...You on the other hand are saying definitively it was clean...It isn't so open and shut...It was called clean so we have to live with that but because it was called that way doesn't make it so...From what I can tell, at best it is 50/50 split amongst the experts on whether it was clean or not...The one I have yet to hear an explanation on is the hit on Bryant when he caught the ball and took three steps before Nelson hit him in the chest with a shoulder...He had established himself as a runner by that point and that was a blatant miss call...I am guessing you agree with that call on the field as well.
I can't even remember the Bryant play. It's entirely possible it was a bad call, I've said before in this thread the officiating sucked for both sides. But the Shazier hit was clean. Of that I have no doubt, and I have yet to hear any expert say it wasn't while acknowledging the "incidental contact" part of the rule. And regardless of teams involved, you tell me 200 refs see things one way and Mike Pereira sees it different, I go with Mike-he's that good.
You obviously don't value his opinion too much since he himself said that the call could have gone either way...He said he thought it was a legal hit but he didn't say it was definitely a legal hit...So if you truly honor his opinion, you would also agree with him that it could have gone either way...Instead, you keep saying there is no doubt when Pereira himself has said he could see why there is doubt...If he is the be all end all you claim him to be, why can't you admit that as well?
LOL come on, "he said it was a legal hit but he didn't say it was definitely a legal hit" And someone saying "you're wrong, but I can see where you came to your incorrect conclusion" doesn't make you any less wrong.
You are literally insane. The video you linked CLEARLY shows that absolutely no one made ANY contact with Porter except a ref, until he has his back turned at which point gilberry bumps into him from behind as Porter yaps (ALREADY COMPLETELY TURNED AWAY FROM BROWN) at a group that included michael johnson, vincent rey and burfict.
AND THAT WAS HIS SOLE PURPOSE FOR ILLEGALLY BEING ON THE FIELD.
You all are literally shameless liars.
And it's pretty clear that if tomlin, munchak, porter and rapelisburger weren't involved in pro sports, they would be on death row. But keep rooting for pure scum and casting stones from your 0.00000001mm thick glass house.
If that was incidental contact then the mother ******* time your scum player brown drop kicked the browns' punter probably falls under the category of "incidental" as well.
Not sure what they have to do about Burfict and pacman. You're just trying to rationalize the psychopaths that embarrassed your team and the city and are sitting at home still whining right now just like you.
crazy, you've lost your mind. Is every one of your responses simply deflecting about some other irrelevant team? And you're seriously trying to defend your team's actions with Porter? I mean, you should be embarrassed that they let Porter get to them at the absolute most important play of the game. Perhaps the Bengals should find some players with discipline and are winners instead of the losers they have now ruining it for the decent guys.
You're the one who's insane, watch the whole video, watch when the trainer swats Burfict's arm away, he accidentally smacks Porter in the face.You are literally insane. The video you linked CLEARLY shows that absolutely no one made ANY contact with Porter except a ref, until he has his back turned at which point gilberry bumps into him from behind as Porter yaps (ALREADY COMPLETELY TURNED AWAY FROM BROWN) at a group that included michael johnson, vincent rey and burfict.
AND THAT WAS HIS SOLE PURPOSE FOR ILLEGALLY BEING ON THE FIELD.
You all are literally shameless liars.
Nailed it. After the game I saw a few national NFL media guys reporting that there was a divide in the Cincinnati locker room and that some of their normal players were angry about Lewis letting Burfict and Jones get away with thug behavior throughout the season. It's completely baffling to me that Bengals fans support these pieces of trash, especially after they cost you a playoff win!
Waaaahhhh!!!! Remember that one time when that one guy did that one thing to that other guy? Waaaahhhh!!!! It's not faaaaiiirrrrr.