Why do the Bengals always crap the bed?
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I refuse to take anyone serious if they can't admit that the Shazier hit on Bernard should have been a penalty.
If that's your take then you're either too stupid or too biased to participate in a discussion.
If that's your take then you're either too stupid or too biased to participate in a discussion.
Interesting all I do is keep quoting the rule, all whiny
You keep mentioning incidental contact but I don't know what rule you're reading because incidental contact isn't mentioned...
Rule 12, Section 2, Article 8: “It is a foul if a runner or tackler initiates forcible contact by delivering a blow with the top/crown of his helmet against an opponent when both are clearly outside the tackle box.”
Isn't that special? Quote the first sentence, leave out the second. Let's look at the whole thing, shall we?
Rule 12, Section 2, Article 8. Initiating Contact With the Crown of the Helmet. It is a foul if a runner or tackler initiates forcible contact by delivering a blow with the top/crown of his helmet against an opponent when both players are clearly outside the tackle box (an area extending from tackle to tackle and from three yards beyond the line of scrimmage to the offensive team's end line). Incidental contact by the helmet of a runner or tackler against an opponent shall not be a foul.
When Bernard turned, lowerd his head and made contact wtith Shazier, that made it incidental contact. THAT IS THE RULE. Please let it sink in.
I get hating the bengals but steelers fans will be joining us either this week or next. its not like you're winning the super bowl that much I can promise. The bengals didn't do it with this years team. As bad as it sucks we will be back stronger next year. We will still have a core nucleus of players as long as they stay healthy
Never saw the second sentence anywhere that the rule was posted. So I will concede that point.
Ok. So who/what determines incidental? Because you're a fool if you think Bernard "lowered his head and made contact with Shazier". Bernard turned around and there he was.
I'll apologize for any undue harshness as to quoting the rule, but Bernard definitely made contact with Shazier. They made contact with each other, that's what incidental contact is-as opposed to a tackler having to take somebody down that's running away from them. Bernard caught that ball turned and headed straight upfield to get as many yards as possible and try to muscle past Shazier, they went straight for each other, Bernard wasn't trying to get away.
Totally delusional. "Incidental contact"? Bernard "lowered his head and made contact with Shazier"? So Bernard initiated the contact? I've heard it all now.
Dude, did you even see the video?
Shazier put his head down, led with his helmet and knocked Bernard unconscious. That's "incidental contact"? Really? You are so totally beyond the realm of reason that I not only question your sanity, I question whether you even exist in this dimension.
Incidental contact. Wow.
Dude, did you even see the video?
Shazier put his head down, led with his helmet and knocked Bernard unconscious. That's "incidental contact"? Really? You are so totally beyond the realm of reason that I not only question your sanity, I question whether you even exist in this dimension.
Incidental contact. Wow.
Hey, guys. you know that hit Burfict laid on Brown? Totally incidental contact. Brown was moving toward him, so he initiated the contact.
So delusional.
So delusional.
I didn't say he initiated it, they hit each other, Bernard was moving forward, toward Shazier when they came together. That's all it takes.
If you don't think he lowered his head, how do you think he got knocked out. He put his chin right in the path of Shazier's helmet.
So by your definition of incidental, Burfict's hit on Brown would have been legal if he had the ball in his hands.
Incidental contact has nothing to do with that hit, there you're talking about taking out a defenseless receiver. Now I personally hate that rule, thought it was a beautiful hit, didn't see anything dirty about it, but it was a penalty according to the rules.
Gotta love Steeler fans. Ungracious in victory and defeat.
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If you watch the video, it doesn't look like Burfict was even watching the ball. He was preparing to hit the receiver, which is what he should have been doing. He was running full speed and when the ball passed over Brown's head he took two steps and made contact with Brown. Brown's effort on the ball brought his head down to where it was in the contact zone. There is no way Brufict could stop or could have intentionally tried to make contact with Brown's head. There just wasn't time. Even the Steeler's linebacker Harris said it was a clean hit. He said by rule it's a penalty, but he said there is no way in that situation to pull up and not make contact. It happens to fast. He thinks the rule is stupid when the hit cannot be avoided and I agree. It should be enforced when it appears to be intentional. The fact that sometimes it is strictly called and other times not, makes it a poor rule and makes the NFL less interesting to watch.
This is correct. Video proof of Gilberry shoving Porter below.
Bengals have absolutely no one to blame but themselves. Live by the thug, die by the thug.
That is complete BS and you know it. All us Steeler fans have done is defended ourselves and our team from being called thugs.
I've not seen one single post gloating about the win.
So you only associate with Bengals fans then. Every nationally syndicated sports talk show I've heard have all been saying Shaziers hit was a legal hit. Only Bengal fans are complaining.
An hour might not be close enough, you may be forced to become a MTSU or Tenn Tech fan.
So Steelers fans think Joey Porter is innocent thru this entire thing? Really?? :joy::joy:
Yep, he did nothing during the game, didnt run his mouth and tell guys he wanted to fight them, didnt run his mouth when he was on the field. He was just innocently out there helping a player. LOLOLOLOL
Not sure why this is hard for Steelers fans to understand, but the Steelers have always been known as the roughest, dirtiest guys around. Steelers and Raiders. Its what has made the Steelers intimidating all these years. Its hysterical that you all deny that.
And Joey Porter is every bit the scum of the earth that Burfict is, except Burfict didnt take 5 guys into a vegas casino to beat the **** out of another NFL player like Porter did.
Like I said, says a lot about your organization and your thug coach for employing him as a COACH. I honestly cant think of any other coaches that get in fights, pull players hair and trip opposing players. And you all think its awesome. Kinda sad actually. I want Burfict off the Bengals team and Steelers fans want to give Joey Porter a promotion.
Yep, he did nothing during the game, didnt run his mouth and tell guys he wanted to fight them, didnt run his mouth when he was on the field. He was just innocently out there helping a player. LOLOLOLOL
Not sure why this is hard for Steelers fans to understand, but the Steelers have always been known as the roughest, dirtiest guys around. Steelers and Raiders. Its what has made the Steelers intimidating all these years. Its hysterical that you all deny that.
And Joey Porter is every bit the scum of the earth that Burfict is, except Burfict didnt take 5 guys into a vegas casino to beat the **** out of another NFL player like Porter did.
Like I said, says a lot about your organization and your thug coach for employing him as a COACH. I honestly cant think of any other coaches that get in fights, pull players hair and trip opposing players. And you all think its awesome. Kinda sad actually. I want Burfict off the Bengals team and Steelers fans want to give Joey Porter a promotion.
Porter is no angel, no denying that. But he never cost the Steelers a playoff game for being thug trash like Burfict and Jones did.
Jeremy Hill cost the Bengals a playoff game. Nobody else. And Burfict took the game over in the 4th quarter. Hes a punk *** thug, but hes a helluva football player and put the Bengals in a position to win the game.
Wait, this thread is still going on?
Goodness.
Both teams were at fault. The Bengals imploded at the worst possible time and the Steelers had nothing to lose at that point.
If you can't hold it together at that point in time, then I don't know what to tell you.
Goodness.
Both teams were at fault. The Bengals imploded at the worst possible time and the Steelers had nothing to lose at that point.
If you can't hold it together at that point in time, then I don't know what to tell you.
Dirtiest guys around, huh? The Steelers put real friggin' heroes on the field like Rocky Bleier and Alejandro Villanueva. Closest a Bengal ever got to a hero was when Vontaze Burfict spit on a guy wearing a camo jacket.
You cannot possibly be this detached from reality. Good grief, your takes are beyond delusional. He wasn't trying to get out of the way, He barely had caught the ball and turned. You are insufferable.
Barely caught the ball and turned, didn't try to get away or didn't have a chance to, was headed in Shazier's direction as a runner---that makes it incidental contact. Insufferable describes
ESPN had a rules official on right after the game who said it was absolutely an illegal hit, that he led with the crown of his helmet, and that it should have been called. I think you are the one who needs educating. He also said that he thought the refs did the best they could at the end of the game, not that they got everything correct, but they did the best they could considering the situation.
You couldn't educate a squirrel to like acorns. Your own words show you are clueless. He didn't have time to get away. The defender used his helmet to spear him. Your tired Louisville reference shows your intelligence level. I don't care how "you" view it.
According to your insane logic, Brown didn't try to avoid Burfict either. Please don't waste anymore time trying to explain the play because you lack the ability to do that.
You are a waste of time. Please put me on ignore. It's obvious you are mentally challenged.Dirtiest guys around, huh? The Steelers put real friggin' heroes on the field like Rocky Bleier and Alejandro Villanueva. Closest a Bengal ever got to a hero was when Vontaze Burfict spit on a guy wearing a camo jacket.
Burfict is my favorite player... ever. I think we should put his nuts on the jumbotron for the whole Stillers game the next time they play them. Matter of fact, create a big huge replica of Burfict's nuts and hang them over the scoreboard so that any time the Stillers want to look at it they have to move Burfict's nuts aside.
Also, I want a Burfict's nuts mascot. I want Burfict's nuts to taunt the Stillers on the sidelines. Have little hairs that stick out and needle them.
Also, I want a Burfict's nuts mascot. I want Burfict's nuts to taunt the Stillers on the sidelines. Have little hairs that stick out and needle them.
consider yourselves lucky to even be mad over a playoff loss. The owners or the Rams bent me and all the other Rams fans over and shoved a 10 ft rod up our butts.
I don't understand the whole thing with moving a sports team. There's a bond there. A real one. And we're supposed to just adopt some carpetbagging team that's new in town just because some greedy owner wanted to make more millions than he was already making?
If you lose the connection with the fans then what do you have? I would never support a team that just moved into my city from someplace else looking to make a buck. Goes against the grain of everything that sports should be.
Sport, essentially, boils down to Burfict's nuts. He doesn't care if he's costing himself millions. He doesn't care if you like him or hate him. All he knows is that between those lines on gameday he is either going to win or die. He is giving everything he has whether it is in the rules or not. Live and die. Today. Right here.
That's what I like. That's how Pete Rose was. That's how Burfict is.
If you lose the connection with the fans then what do you have? I would never support a team that just moved into my city from someplace else looking to make a buck. Goes against the grain of everything that sports should be.
Sport, essentially, boils down to Burfict's nuts. He doesn't care if he's costing himself millions. He doesn't care if you like him or hate him. All he knows is that between those lines on gameday he is either going to win or die. He is giving everything he has whether it is in the rules or not. Live and die. Today. Right here.
That's what I like. That's how Pete Rose was. That's how Burfict is.
Its just a scenario where you are dating someone for a while and it turns out she's / he's in a committed relationship or even married..... how could you keep seeing that person because they are obviously untrustworthy people.
What's the statute of limitations on this? How about the Ravens? St. Louis Rams (I guess the question here is was it okay last year)? Colts? Redskins? Cardinals? Chargers (originally in LA in the AFL)? Oakland Raiders? Titans? Lions (originally the Portsmouth Spartans)?
Well congratulations on your one rules official. I've got Mike Pereira(you want to talk investments you go to Warren Buffett, you want to talk NFL rules you go to Mike Pereira) and Mike Florio PLUS I'VE GOT THE DAMNED RULE. It's incidental contact so IT'S NOT A PENALTY!!!! READ THE RULE!