Why why why can’t state guard the 3 pt shot.
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And the body language of our team is just bad. Shoulders back, head up boys. Looking soft with no confidence.
I said this in the game thread, but the Hump is a shooter's gym for everyone except for us.
This body language has been existing since the Ole Miss game. Maybe there is some ego or team cohesion issues?
How dare you people call yourselves state fans. It's clear that mizzou is a final four team. We are still good for a 3 seed.**
Because we double inside shots which leaves someone open. Unfortunately, most teams have four 3 point shooters and don't hesitate to shoot when it happens.
Oh this has a high chance of being entertaining.
Please drop some complex basketball knowledge on us.
Reasons...
- sometimes, the weakside doesn't transition out to the perimeter quickly enough when the ball is reversed.
- more often, our big men don't push up on high ball screens, so when they hedge down to block the lane, it leaves a shooter open.
- quite frequently, ball handlers make our defense collapse by getting into the lane from the perimeter, which frees up shooters if the ball is kicked out.
- sometimes, shots are dropping from 40' and baseline banks are falling...so you are just 17ed.
There ya go- explanations for almost all the times a 3pt shot is made against MSU defense.
It would be the exact reason behind our overall defense and the person who drew that up.
I'm sure you can come up with a more detailed version, but essentially, it all comes back to the same thing: the person in charge of our defense is in charge of our three-point defense.
I'm sure you can come up with a more detailed version, but essentially, it all comes back to the same thing: the person in charge of our defense is in charge of our three-point defense.
Missouri was doing the same but our shots weren't falling.
Right. We have no shooters
Hum, what is team cohesion? Oh, I remember now, back when players were together for 4 years they came to know each other and how each other played and formed a bond and worked together and all that. Yeah that sh-it went away when "everybody for themself" and team Island hopping started. This "team" will just be a distant memory this time next season and next year's will be the same etc. You almost had me there for a minute with that cohesion talk
Our guards can’t stop penetration into the lane, which causes us to attempt to help off their man, which frees up opposing shooters to catch in rhythm, wide open, and shoot warm up threes.
Our guards can't stop penetration into the lane because Hubbard is too short?
that is absurd.
I just saw them replay on the SEC network that there is no defense against it. I swear the boy had kicked the ball in from one end of the courts toward the basket on the other end, and it would've gone in.
I knew he had made a lot of baskets by God, but that's way too many under normal conditions. Under normal circumstances, we might have been able to play three better, but Jesus Christ, that boy, had to deal with the devil.
I knew he had made a lot of baskets by God, but that's way too many under normal conditions. Under normal circumstances, we might have been able to play three better, but Jesus Christ, that boy, had to deal with the devil.
In Jans’ first season, we couldn’t shoot the 3
Now we are better but can’t defend it
Get one thing somewhat fixed, something else breaks
Now we are better but can’t defend it
Get one thing somewhat fixed, something else breaks
Admittedly I'm not a basketball guy but it seems to me that the difference between us and them is we have 1 person who can sink 3's on a consistent basis when getting open looks and they have 2 or more. Other than Hub, others on our team get open looks, they just can't make them on a consistent basis.
Harris is as good of a shooter as Hubbard and the 3 pt % shows that. Melendez is a shooter too. Hubbard was the only one hitting yesterday. Kugel should be. He is at times.
Mentally they weren't even on the court Saturday. Half asleep all game
It's obvious we need a lot of work defending 3's . We need to keep our 5 best players on the court more too . It's time to beat some of the best teams and play our best for the whole game . I don't charge for being an armchair coach .
Mizzou does have the ingredients to make the Final Four provided the ball bounces right for them a time or two.
Hubbard is one of the worst defensively guards in the league. Just watch him. He gets lost. He doesnt defend, and when he tries to defend he fouls.
Combine that with we are shorter than most every team we play at every position, sometimes by a LOT. Meaning when we do guard well, the opposing tema can simply rise up and shoot over us
Combine THAT with the Jans compensating for the things above and trying to trap and double team.. thus leaving someone open. Again like against Alabama when he intentionally didnt challenge the open look from the corner to basically beat us.. Jans chooses to leave certain players open... and there is a big difference in someone shooting 25% from 3 in game flow... and being left wide open to shoot them.
Combine that with we are shorter than most every team we play at every position, sometimes by a LOT. Meaning when we do guard well, the opposing tema can simply rise up and shoot over us
Combine THAT with the Jans compensating for the things above and trying to trap and double team.. thus leaving someone open. Again like against Alabama when he intentionally didnt challenge the open look from the corner to basically beat us.. Jans chooses to leave certain players open... and there is a big difference in someone shooting 25% from 3 in game flow... and being left wide open to shoot them.
The absense of DJ Jeffries is the most glaring issue when comparing 3 pt defense last year to this year. We were 9th in the country last year in opponent three point percentage and this year we are like 250th. DJ was one of the best perimeter defenders in the country when he was at State.
Jans basically said as much during the post-game. Just basically said its something that has to be fixed in recruiting. We lack size, strength, and length... can only mask so much and at this point in the season... scouting reports are out.
I agree with all this. I think the be all of it is on ball defense lacks ridiculously which leads to "help". I can't count the time our guards are chasing the ball instead of staying in front of it. This also means the post that is helping in the screens aren't "helping" enough.
I'm really having a hard time buying this. Yes, Jefferies was an elite defender, and we miss him definitely. But Harris is 6'4", Melendez is 6'7", Jones is 6'5", Kugel is 6'5". I wouldn't refer to that as lack of size. Ole Miss seems to play Murray (5'11") and Pedulla (6'1") together alot and they defend way better than we do.
Hubbard is 5-10 well below average
Harris is 6-4 playing the 2 which is solid
The other wings you mentioned are of solid size
Issue is we play Cam at the 4 at 6-7 or 6-8
We are out-sized by nearly everyone we play. Alabama starts 3 guys 6-10 or better. Same with Kentucky.
I agree Ole Miss plays a 4 guard line up but they are more the exception and not the rule... and again you cant say anything bad about hubbard on this board.. but he's truly an awful defender. He cant stay infront of his guy, cant defend without fouling, and other teams go right at him. When you have 1 awful defender on the floor and no real plus defenders to even the scales-- it shows up bad-- which is why i agreed with the previous poster. jefferies was an elite defender, he helped even those scales. Our best defender is Cam and we are having him matched up with 6-10 post players instead of wings due to roster composition
So basically you have a major mis-match at one guard position. And you have a major size disadvantage in the post.. with virtually any lineup you put on the floor... and hubbard has to play because we have to have someone that can put the ball in the basket.
But i dont think its hopeless. Its just good teams can expose these flaws easier than others. And we are in the stretch of playing a lot of good teams
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I was not shocked by the fact we came out flat against Missouri. I had a bad feeling about the game because after we 'left it on the floor' against KY, we were horrible against Auburn at their place. And after we 'left it on the floor' against OM we came out looking somewhat lethargic against SC in Columbia only scoring 55 points in regulation but winning in OT. And then after we 'left it on the floor' against AL I was very concerned because of the 8 pm Wed night game going to the turnaround of an early Saturday game while Missouri had had the entire week off. I was not surprised we lost but I was surprised how we lost. It seems if we are not 'up' for a game we just aren't that good.
My upward basketball coaching credentials are solid, so let me take a crack at this. In addition to everything posted above, Misery got too many offensive rebounds, plus 31 was on fire, there's not much that can be done when he's hitting them 10 feet and more beyond the line.
You can easily disrupt a player that is hot, teams do it all the time. We just don't know how.
Their not getting enough NIL money to guard 3 pt shooters?
