As an Iowa fan I haven’t watched him intently as you guys but I thought he played pretty damn good. I wouldn’t ride him into the ground like Iowa would but I would let him keep going and see what happens. Really liked the way Rutgers played today. Showed some damn nasty which I can appreciate.
Wimsatt played a good game
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You were talking about the future, not the past. But, since you are now asking about the past, look to every game where he completed a pass and we win the game. That’s him winning with his arm.
Yes and no. The interception was on our last possession in PSU territory. It's unlikely that we would have converted on 4th down, but at least we would have had a chance while we were still down by only two scores.
If you watched the game and didn't realize that Wimsatt played a good game, I don't know what to tell you. You're seeing but not seeing.
And people saying to get another QB, it would take a new QB 2 or 3 years to get to the level that Wimsatt is at right now.
"Good game" is a little strong. He certainly was better than he's been. The fumble and interception could have happened to anyone IMHO. He's progressing. He's got two years after this one so there's time for him to develop. We could bring in a QB through the portal, but our experience with transfer quarterbacks hasn't been great because any QB needs time to learn a new system. I'm OK with him so long as he continues to show improvement as he did today.
The INT was more Strong's fault. When the CB blitzes, you are supposed to throw to his man. WR has to break that route off and give him the clean target, then try to make the safety miss. There's no time for a slow develoing route on a corner blitz.
It was 3rd and 22. Had the pass been incomplete, it would have been 4th and 22. I'm sure you agree that 4th and 22, although hardly wonderful, would be better than the other team having the ball.
He was.
Weird that having the QB start out with a good game means nothing to some fans and the staff.
Doesn't matter how many 1st downs he made or times we run the middle for 1 yard in the first half - we run the ball hell or high water!
HC Schiano couldn't even give an answer when asked about 16 passes v. 41 runs in the post game presser.
Weird that having the QB start out with a good game means nothing to some fans and the staff.
Doesn't matter how many 1st downs he made or times we run the middle for 1 yard in the first half - we run the ball hell or high water!
HC Schiano couldn't even give an answer when asked about 16 passes v. 41 runs in the post game presser.
If the staff won't even consider passing a bit more when the QB is actually having a good day - what makes anyone think "next year we'll open it up" will matter?
Today passing was better than running but the staff still choose to run up the middle non stop.
Today passing was better than running but the staff still choose to run up the middle non stop.
The only way you win playing safe is the Michigan State model where you are just waiting for the other team to screw up, or rely on overall stronger horses (Wagner, VT, Temple, etc).
If Greg had any kind of stones he would have realized “we’re down only a TD late in the 3rd quarter, now’s when we need to take our shot!” But no, let’s just stick to Schiano ball and hope the opponents punter bobbles the snap in the end zone to follow up with a returner who doesn’t know how to call for a fair catch to rack up our wins!
wrong....3rd & 23, had to get some yards and that was more the freshman WR's fault for leaking and not turning and coming back. If he does it's a completion
This is exactly what the ratio needed to be. That was roughly the ratio Michigan used to beat Penn State. We just made too many mistakes.
Yep. About what I expected. The circus must be touring again.Wake up and smell the coffee
This should be good
Schiano did give an answer: he talked about our inability to stop the edge rush.
You do realize he had a defender ready to pounce him
Name calling non substantive answers,
2 facts back your circus premise
1. The fact that you are defending the statistically worst QB in D 1 football
2. The fact that you don’t understand how a QB can have vision and avoid pressure, some are a lot better than others ala Fran Tarkenton, or Roger The Dodger.
We supposedly have an Athletic QB who exhibits no skill in this area, and in fact is a defender magnet!
These 2 facts , lead me to believe you a Clown
have in fact escaped from the circus you have previously mentioned!
I don’t think we have a better choice at QB on our roster right now, but our bar is very low regarding good QB play. Even when we do have a completion, the passes do not give the opportunity for the receivers to gain extra yards. It happened at least three times yesterday where with a good pass we would have an extra 5-10 yards after the catch.
Wrong again! Corner blitz threw the ball to the right guy who wasn’t looking for it.
You suck. I can’t believe you go to all home and away games and still don’t know squat about Football. How many years have you been doing this and still making the wrong reads before posting? You don’t have 4 of the Top 10 defenses in the game to play against either so you have no excuse to be this bad. Find a new hobby.
Oh this won't do.
Every RU loss must be on the QB only. It has been this way always.
We have fans that blamed Teel/Nova/Savage/Dodd and they had KB, Underwood, Tim Brown, Sanu, Carroo...
Who is a WR on this team of that caliber?
But blame Gavin for not lighting up scoreboard versus one of the FOUR top 8 defenses we have played, making up all but one loss. SMH.
Every RU loss must be on the QB only. It has been this way always.
We have fans that blamed Teel/Nova/Savage/Dodd and they had KB, Underwood, Tim Brown, Sanu, Carroo...
Who is a WR on this team of that caliber?
But blame Gavin for not lighting up scoreboard versus one of the FOUR top 8 defenses we have played, making up all but one loss. SMH.
Crawl back into your hole with your belligerent asinine remarks.
If you can’t comprehend QB performance of reading defenses, making consistent accurate throws, etc. you are forever clueless. LMAO at you.
Wimsatt did play a good game compared to what we expect from him
But I don't consider 10 for 16 for 136 yards a good game.
I consider it showing improvement but nothing to be satisfied about.
I still think Gavin will be a good one, but also feel he hasn't proved to be one yet.
But I don't consider 10 for 16 for 136 yards a good game.
I consider it showing improvement but nothing to be satisfied about.
I still think Gavin will be a good one, but also feel he hasn't proved to be one yet.
Gavin is going to need work in the off season but if he makes a jump like he did from last year to this year he may be a solid to good QB next year. I don't think we've unleashed his full dual threat capabilities yet either tbh. He just doesn't have the ability to win games for us yet.
Jump? Two years in a row Statistically last?
He’s improved some but 1 TD in three games. These are red flags rather than a suggestion that he will suddenly be a solid to good QB next year. The extent to justify three turnovers and 130 years passing as a good game is scary.
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it should be that way.
This is his third year in program ( redshirt soph) and one should improve every year.
The question is, do we think Gavin's improving fast enough or are we satisfied
with the way he has improved from 2021 to now
Passing
| Szn | Team | GP | Cmp | Att | Yds | TD | Int | Rtg |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2023 |
Rut | 11 | 118 | 240 | 1486 | 8 | 7 | 106.3 |
| 2022 |
Rut | 8 | 65 | 144 | 757 | 5 | 7 | 91 |
| 2021 |
Rut | 4 | 9 | 21 | 45 | - | 2 | 41.8 |
| Career | 23 | 192 | 405 | 2288 | 13 | 16 | 97.6 |
Rushing
The QB is not the problem in this offense. They are coached to perform under such a strict set of parameters that nobody would succeed. There is no room for error for a quarterback in this system.
1st down run
2nd down run
3rd down... have to pass to convert, any incompletion results in a punt
Who is going to establish a rhythm in that scenario?
Gavin has room for growth but replacing him doesn't solve your systemic flaws.
Are we really counting 2021 as "a year in the program"?it should be that way.
This is his third year in program ( redshirt soph) and one should improve every year.
The question is, do we think Gavin's improving fast enough or are we satisfied
with the way he has improved from 2021 to now
Passing
Szn Team GP Cmp Att Yds TD Int Rtg 2023 11 118 240 1486 8 7 106.3 2022 8 65 144 757 5 7 91 2021 4 9 21 45 - 2 41.8 Career 23 192 405 2288 13 16 97.6 Rushing
He showed up in the middle of the season. He had maybe a little advantage on early enrollees for that year but he's the same age as sophomores in college.
In most other programs he's a redshirt freshman.
I'm not giving Gavin any slack, he needs to stop being treated with kid gloves on this board and hep to the strictest standards This is his third year in program, with this season being his second full season and he played in parts of 4 games in his true freshman year. In every program he's just what he is at RU , junior class, sophomore eligibility
I believe he's on the way to becoming a good QB, but I'm a little disappointed the Penn State game statistics are being considered a good showing..
His stats against PSU show he's improving, but they are not what I consider good game statistics for a starting QB.
O feel when it comes to Wimsatt's QB play most have low expectations so what would be considered a average, maybe even below average, game by a good P-5 QB is looked at as a good game Gavin played.
I.m not going to accept that, but will admit Wimsatt is showing improvement and one day we'll consider his 2023 PSU game a game he didn't play the type of game we come to expect out of him
Are we talking about the interception in the 4th quarter of the Penn State game.? There was a corner blitz from the right. Wimsatt threw to the left. His throw was behind the receiver. Maybe he expected the receiver to have read the blitz and broken off his pattern. Maybe he just underthrew the receiver because of the pressure from his right. The safety, Harrison --not a cornerback -- cut in front of the receiver and made the interception. IMHO, the interception could have happened to any QB.
He’s improved but still statistically last in FBS?
That’s a problem. 130 yards by a QB is not really a good game.
Blaming freshman WR for an interception on what was still a poorly thrown ball is at best 50-50. Certainly contributed to fumble if not his fault with Kyle as well. Don’t fault him for getting killed on other.
Yes he’s improved but statistically really doesn’t show it and back breaking turnovers.
Simon might have warranted a chance. Wiscy drive was good. Portal QB has to be looked at.
The idea that we can’t question Wimsatt is nutty. 1 TD in 12 quarters is not reassurance that he’ll be great let alone good 4th year into the program.
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Virginia Tech has already lost 6 games so that can’t have a winning season yet..
Hopefully NW beats Illinois this Saturday and they will have a winning season.
Well that's on HC Schiano and Wimsatt.
Getting him in early for apparently NIL reasons and short changing him a year of development in the program.