WNBA ratings down 50% since Clark injury

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That's because not thinking one-dimensionally like your original assertion.

There's a slew of reasons why the UFC and the WNBA would have completely different viewership numbers.

Do we need to get into why mens sports in general has a larger audience than the women?
I compared WNBA viewership to NBA viewership overseas following the draft of an international player who previously played on their country's national team. Direct, apples to apples comparison.

Audience size is irrelevant for boost in viewership (though, actually, a smaller audience like the WNBA should more easily show a % increase).
 

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I compared WNBA viewership to NBA viewership overseas following the draft of an international player who previously played on their country's national team. Direct, apples to apples comparison.

Audience size is irrelevant for boost in viewership (though, actually, a smaller audience like the WNBA should more easily show a % increase).
Cobie is going to say you are a bot next. That is his default setting when someone else is right.
 

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How is he right, Botman :)
The following soundly disproves your argument:

NBA viewership surged in France after Webanyama was drafted.

There is no evidence that WNBA viewership in Lithuania has been boosted following Justė Jocytė being drafted #5 overall.

Both played for their country's national team.
 

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I compared WNBA viewership to NBA viewership overseas following the draft of an international player who previously played on their country's national team. Direct, apples to apples comparison.

Audience size is irrelevant for boost in viewership (though, actually, a smaller audience like the WNBA should more easily show a % increase).

You mean your N=1 example? :)
 

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The following soundly disproves your argument:

NBA viewership surged in France after Webanyama was drafted.

There is no evidence that WNBA viewership in Lithuania has been boosted following Justė Jocytė being drafted #5 overall.

Both played for their country's national team.

Zoom out man. You need a stats class or two.
 

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You mean your N=1 example? :)

That is greater than your N=0

Your argument was absolute. My N=1 proves that is not the case.

FWIW, there are obviously many, many other examples from NBA/WNBA which would prove my point.
 

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That is greater than your N=0

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Well over 90% of the WNBA are former NCAA athletes.

The UFC is probably close to 90% international athletes representing their own country.

You're comparing apples to oranges.
 

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Well over 90% of the WNBA are former NCAA athletes.

The UFC is probably close to 90% international athletes representing their own country.

You're comparing apples to oranges.

I've moved past the UFC and am comparing WNBA to NBA, but you don't seem to want to make that comparison. I have not referenced UFC for quite a while now.
 

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By your rationale, the draft of a foreign player to the NBA should not boost overseas ratings since that player represents a US city. Yet it consistently does.
 

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By your rationale, the draft of a foreign player to the NBA should not boost overseas ratings since that player represents a US city. Yet it consistently does.

Where are you getting this?

I'm talking about your original assertion which was way off.

Who cares how single (or mulitple) players bounced viewership numbers?

What we were talking about is your viewership comparision with the UFC.

I'm fully aware that the NBA is more popular than the WNBA both in the US and Internationally.

Talk about goalposts....
 

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Golf and Tiger Woods was close and NASCAR and Dale Jr. are in the running too.
Golf was fine prior to Tiger. He just accelerated the earnings potential across the board. Not going to comment about the Dale Jr. portion, but he filled a huge vacuum left by his Dad.
 

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Woods was
Golf was fine prior to Tiger. He just accelerated the earnings potential across the board. Not going to comment about the Dale Jr. portion, but he filled a huge vacuum left by his Dad.
Woods was to golf what Connors and McEnroe were to tennis; made their sports mainstream. Woods is what made me start the game; he played football on a golf course.
 

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Golf was fine prior to Tiger. He just accelerated the earnings potential across the board. Not going to comment about the Dale Jr. portion, but he filled a huge vacuum left by his Dad.
Tournaments upped their purses to try and attract Tiger to their tournament. Now that Tiger is retired, I wonder if the purses will stay elevated? LIV has not become a tour the mainstream fans care about. I don't see LIV surging in popularity in the future either. Golf is not exactly a sport followed by the masses. Tiger gave golf a player that non golfers had interest in. I don't see anyone like that on tour now.

Every pro golfer at every level should have a shrine to Arnold Palmer in their home. Arnold turned golf into a sport the public cared about and put golf on tv. Before Arnold, golf was a sport only played and followed by the relatively well to do. Before Arnold, The Masters struggled to sell tickets. Local banks in Augusta used to have Masters tickets for sale at teller windows and local people signed up for tickets in order to "help out the tournament". If you look at video of major tournaments from the '40s and '50s pre Palmer, the galleries are incredibly small.
 

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Angel Reese is shooting 30% within 5 feet
She also hasn't played in about 3 weeks with a Back injury. If you are going to deride someone, it would be great to at least know what is currently going on. Your stats are also dated. After her last game, she was shooting 44% from the field and 49% (95-193) within 5 feet.

 
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She also hasn't played in about 3 weeks with a Back injury. If you are going to deride someone, it would be great to at least know what is currently going on. Your stats are also dated. After her last game, she was shooting 44% from the field and 49% (95-193) within 5 feet.

That's the first time I've ever seen weight included on a woman's player page. No weights included on the Carolina women's team rosters, for example.
 

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That's the first time I've ever seen weight included on a woman's player page. No weights included on the Carolina women's team rosters, for example.
Yeah, WNBA site, while a little unwieldy to use, is pretty detailed. Angel's big problem is the pocket from which she shoots the ball. Slings from her hip. It would have seemed that Mulkey would have coached her out of that. If you look at the BLKA (Blocks Against) stat, 46 of of her 102 misses around the rim was when her shot was getting sent back by an opposing player. She corrects that one thing and she is one of the best post players in the league.
 
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She also hasn't played in about 3 weeks with a Back injury. If you are going to deride someone, it would be great to at least know what is currently going on. Your stats are also dated. After her last game, she was shooting 44% from the field and 49% (95-193) within 5 feet.

I don’t know about all that
 

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I don’t know about all that
I think stats from the Official WNBA website beats thin air, Outkick, or wherever you are getting your information from. Now don't get me wrong, 49% from within 5 feet is still not good for a big. In comparison, A'ja Wilson shoots 68% from within 5 feet, but that is why A'Ja Wilson is the reigning MVP of the league and Angel is not.
 
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Talk about delusions of grandeur. Angel Reese hopes her shoe has the same impact as Air Jordans.
 

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You know, I didn’t know what to make of your assertion at first; I’ve always been a straight shooter raised by straight shooters and never really pondered nonsense like multiple screen names, thought everyone else was pretty much the same. But the ones you have id’ed do seem to have demonstrably similar MO’s; chatty, not really ‘inside the game’ oriented or savvy for lack of a better term, in essence say the same things over and over and over, and get pissy when called out. Weird.
 
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You know, I didn’t know what to make of your assertion at first; I’ve always been a straight shooter raised by straight shooters and never really pondered nonsense like multiple screen names, thought everyone else was pretty much the same. But the ones you have id’ed do seem to have demonstrably similar MO’s; chatty, not really ‘inside the game’ oriented or savvy for lack of a better term, in essence say the same things over and over and over, and get pissy when called out. Weird.

Lol

Irony
 

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You know, I didn’t know what to make of your assertion at first; I’ve always been a straight shooter raised by straight shooters and never really pondered nonsense like multiple screen names, thought everyone else was pretty much the same. But the ones you have id’ed do seem to have demonstrably similar MO’s; chatty, not really ‘inside the game’ oriented or savvy for lack of a better term, in essence say the same things over and over and over, and get pissy when called out. Weird.
I still don't get the point of all this. They go on about how terrible Angel Reese is. They go on about how bad the WNBA is, but 18 always has their names in his mouth. It's the behavior of a secret fan that doesn't think it's manly enough to admit.
 

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I still don't get the point of all this. They go on about how terrible Angel Reese is. They go on about how bad the WNBA is, but 18 always has their names in his mouth. It's the behavior of a secret fan that doesn't think it's manly enough to admit.
It's actually quite popular to claim to be a WNBA fan, so it's rather going against the grain to claim otherwise. I believe you talk up the WNBA b/c it's what you're conditioned you need to do. I doubt most supposed WNBA fans are fans at all, but are just going along with the dictated narrative.

You still seem to cling to this notion that if you bring a topic up or discuss it then you must be a fan. I can freely talk about many things of which I have some knowledge/awareness but no personal great interest. As it pertains to the WNBA, I speak of it mostly as intersects with sociopolitical issues, which they thrive on. The WNBA thrusts itself into social issues, so I speak primarily to that aspect of it.

And occasionally I make fun of how stupid they look trying to play basketball.
 

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You still seem to cling to this notion that if you bring a topic up or discuss it then you must be a fan. I can freely talk about many things of which I have some knowledge/awareness but no personal great interest. As it pertains to the WNBA, I speak of it mostly as intersects with sociopolitical issues, which they thrive on. The WNBA thrusts itself into social issues, so I speak primarily to that aspect of it.

And occasionally I make fun of how stupid they look trying to play basketball.

This has been explained to him multiple times, by multiple posters. Do you think typing it out for him again is going to help him understand? He doesn't want it to be true, so he will simply not accept your explanation.

That, and then throw in some lame pop psychology about people who talk about the wnba must be secret fans, or overweight, or just being dumped, or some other lame insult.