Wow, I thought Cut sucked
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Considering where they are now - Most OM fans would probably disagree
But why are we talking about them again?
But why are we talking about them again?
The problem with Cutt!
Unless you have an Eli Manning, you have to be in his system five years to understand it.
Duke can handle it, but their next QB could not...
Think he is still in the NFL, or was until recently.(not as a QB)
Unless you have an Eli Manning, you have to be in his system five years to understand it.
Duke can handle it, but their next QB could not...
Think he is still in the NFL, or was until recently.(not as a QB)
Anyone see the Duke WR go out of bounds but they kept the clock running?
There was like 1:50 left. This has been a horribly officiated hit. At least five obvious uncalled helmet to helmet hits.
There was like 1:50 left. This has been a horribly officiated hit. At least five obvious uncalled helmet to helmet hits.
I knew Cutt was going to be special for them when he got off the plane in oxford--and went straight into the hospital with pancreatitis...
I invite you to find the last MSU or Ole Miss coach who had a better career record at either school...
Getting rid of him was a horrible idea -- but was tied to the beginnings of the recruiting rankings IMO. They were having their best seasons in 40 years during Eli's career, while MSU was falling apart at the end of Jackie's tenure, but we were still absolutely killing them in 'crootin according to Scout and Rivals. They wanted defensive staff changes -- and better recruiters. When Cut refused to make those changes, he painted Boone into a corner. However, Boone's final decision set them back about a decade honestly.
IMO had Cut remained at OM(he would be in year 14), he would have led them to 11 or 12 bowl games by now, and probably been a top 25 mainstay. The problem is -- OM fans are not happy with that longterm -- which can be both a blessing and a curse for them.
Getting rid of him was a horrible idea -- but was tied to the beginnings of the recruiting rankings IMO. They were having their best seasons in 40 years during Eli's career, while MSU was falling apart at the end of Jackie's tenure, but we were still absolutely killing them in 'crootin according to Scout and Rivals. They wanted defensive staff changes -- and better recruiters. When Cut refused to make those changes, he painted Boone into a corner. However, Boone's final decision set them back about a decade honestly.
IMO had Cut remained at OM(he would be in year 14), he would have led them to 11 or 12 bowl games by now, and probably been a top 25 mainstay. The problem is -- OM fans are not happy with that longterm -- which can be both a blessing and a curse for them.
Truth be told it was the 1999 Vandy game...
When I hear people ***** about Cut, the 99 Vandy game gets brought up all the time. I mean all the time.
When we lost that game he lost a good bit of the fan base that never really returned.
This is not a post saying Vandy was our real rival, Im just telling you that the 99 Vandy game bothers me a whole lot more than the 99 MSU game. MSU had a good team that year, Vandy was terrible and we lost at home.
When I hear people ***** about Cut, the 99 Vandy game gets brought up all the time. I mean all the time.
When we lost that game he lost a good bit of the fan base that never really returned.
This is not a post saying Vandy was our real rival, Im just telling you that the 99 Vandy game bothers me a whole lot more than the 99 MSU game. MSU had a good team that year, Vandy was terrible and we lost at home.
I do think Cut does better than O, but Im not sure by how much...
Cut believed in lining up and playing smash mouth football against teams in the SEC and that worked in 2003 when we had a solid OL and senior laden defensive line that could keep us in games and a NFL QB. The problem was that he wasn't great at adjusting his scheme to the talent around him. He was going to run the UT offense come hell or high water.
The 2004 season was a great example of that when we had a fairly solid OL and Spurlock at QB, and he simply refused to make Spurlock a running threat. It was like how Omarr Conner was wasted at MSU, except that Spurlock played in the NFL for 5-6 seasons as KR and WR. That is how fast he was. He was the perfect spread option QB. He had legit 4.4 speed and a big time arm, but you put him under center is just like putting Eli in the Triple Option. Just a terrible fit.
I just don't see Cut changing at Ole Miss and I see us running pro style offenses against teams with bigger, faster, and stronger players. Cut left O some solid talent when he was fired, but once again it takes a coach that is capable of being creative on offense while assembling talent on defense. O did a damn good job of assembling defensive talent. He simply had no clue how to be creative on offense.
I don't see Cut surviving at Ole Miss past 2006 season even if he had stayed on, the league had passed him by and Arkansas and DMC, AU had Caddy and Ronnie Brown, LSU was a pro team, Bama was still Bama though nothing like they are now, and we had to play UGA and UT during those years. Things would not have ended well for him at Ole Miss. The game had passed him by. I am happy that he has been able to re-invent himself at Duke though it took several years of *** whippings of him running a pro style offense at Duke to figure out that he had to do something different.
Cut believed in lining up and playing smash mouth football against teams in the SEC and that worked in 2003 when we had a solid OL and senior laden defensive line that could keep us in games and a NFL QB. The problem was that he wasn't great at adjusting his scheme to the talent around him. He was going to run the UT offense come hell or high water.
The 2004 season was a great example of that when we had a fairly solid OL and Spurlock at QB, and he simply refused to make Spurlock a running threat. It was like how Omarr Conner was wasted at MSU, except that Spurlock played in the NFL for 5-6 seasons as KR and WR. That is how fast he was. He was the perfect spread option QB. He had legit 4.4 speed and a big time arm, but you put him under center is just like putting Eli in the Triple Option. Just a terrible fit.
I just don't see Cut changing at Ole Miss and I see us running pro style offenses against teams with bigger, faster, and stronger players. Cut left O some solid talent when he was fired, but once again it takes a coach that is capable of being creative on offense while assembling talent on defense. O did a damn good job of assembling defensive talent. He simply had no clue how to be creative on offense.
I don't see Cut surviving at Ole Miss past 2006 season even if he had stayed on, the league had passed him by and Arkansas and DMC, AU had Caddy and Ronnie Brown, LSU was a pro team, Bama was still Bama though nothing like they are now, and we had to play UGA and UT during those years. Things would not have ended well for him at Ole Miss. The game had passed him by. I am happy that he has been able to re-invent himself at Duke though it took several years of *** whippings of him running a pro style offense at Duke to figure out that he had to do something different.
Its academic. He had major health problems at the time he was fired. He had to resign as QB coach at Notre Dame right after taking the job. There was no way he could have been an SEC HC then. He was burned out.
Actually, Cutcliffe had some serious health issues. He had to sit out of coaching for a year when he was hired by Notre Dame in 2005 because of colitis or something like that. He wasn't fully healthy until 2006 when he became Tennessee OC again. By the time he got to Duke in 2008, he was able to coach with very few expectations (Cutcliffe would go through airports with the Duke Coaching Staff Sweatshirt on, and people would ask him, "Duke really has a football team?"), slowly build up the program, get some speed players on the outside, and Duke will be happy with 6-8 wins a year for the next Millenium.
I personally thought Tennessee should have hired him.....
He could have hired him a good DC and some recruiters and would have been off and running. You know he would have attracted a QB, which would then attract other offensive talent.
But what Ole Miss should have done was a different story.....he is a different coach right now than he was back then. Only way I would have gotten rid of him would have been if I had a better candidate lined up, and Orgeron proved that they didn't. In hindsight, he should have gotten one more year. Similar to Gene Chizik, although I think Chizik sucked so bad that firing him was justified (plus, Petrino was out there and they whiffed on him). But point is, Ole Miss could have done much better getting their new coach had they waited another year.
He could have hired him a good DC and some recruiters and would have been off and running. You know he would have attracted a QB, which would then attract other offensive talent.
But what Ole Miss should have done was a different story.....he is a different coach right now than he was back then. Only way I would have gotten rid of him would have been if I had a better candidate lined up, and Orgeron proved that they didn't. In hindsight, he should have gotten one more year. Similar to Gene Chizik, although I think Chizik sucked so bad that firing him was justified (plus, Petrino was out there and they whiffed on him). But point is, Ole Miss could have done much better getting their new coach had they waited another year.