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LETSGORU91_

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If the few first paragraphs are any indication, we are not only getting a stud wrestler, but also a young man with great character.
 
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bigmatt718

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I'm gonna soak this weekend all in some more, but I am interested in the projected depth chart going into 2019-20. Lipari/Firestone battling for 141 will be interesting and I'm interested to see what Janzer does at 184. 165 will be wide open...maybe we target a transfer there so Kanniard can RS?
 

RutgersAlum

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I'm gonna soak this weekend all in some more, but I am interested in the projected depth chart going into 2019-20. Lipari/Firestone battling for 141 will be interesting and I'm interested to see what Janzer does at 184. 165 will be wide open...maybe we target a transfer there so Kanniard can RS?

I would like to see Kanniard Redshirt except he is setting the world on fire.He just got majored by NY state champ.Let's give him the year to develop getting accustomed to the college grind.He is another good talent that can develop nicely.
 
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MS-RU

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I would like to see Kanniard Redshirt except he is setting the world on fire.He just got majored by NY state champ.Let's give him the year to develop getting accustomed to the college grind.He is another good talent that can develop nicely.

Not that it matters at this point but I wouldn't read into the charity tournament loss too much. I remember seeing in the NJ wrestling group that his mother posted that they were on vacation the days leading up to the tournament and got home the morning of the event. He wasn't going to even attend but he wanted to stick to his word and wrestle for a good cause..
obviously it wasn't a great result.

With that being said, a redshirt would probably make the most sense for Rob and JoJo especially if Nick qualifies/takes an Olympic redshirt. If that's the case, we'd be in a 100x better position to make some noise the following year.
 
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tfio

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Can't wait to see how good he gets once he starts rolling around with Suriano and Ashnault every day
 

Abro1975

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Anthony Ashnault red shirted as a freshman, if the staff thinks Aragona will benefit from a RS year,and Ashanult was a 4x State Champ probably higher ranked coming out of HS than Aragona, then don't be surprised. . In watching Aragona wrestle in the Pitt Classic he faced an unranked kid from Pa, and he did not overpower the kid, he won approx. 4-1.
In the NJ states I didn't think he was overpowering, winning the final 7-1, Semifinal 6-1, and Qtrs 6-4. He is a very quick, finesse wrestler. IMO, he may need a year to develop the strength needed to win consistently in the Big10.
It sure helped Ashnault a lot. I would be very surprised if Aragona was noticeably better than a much older Lipari or Firestone. But you never know. Also, I wonder what the prospects are for Malcolm Robinson?
 
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Anthony Ashnault red shirted as a freshman, if the staff thinks Aragona will benefit from a RS year,and Ashanult was a 4x State Champ probably higher ranked coming out of HS than Aragona, then don't be surprised. . In watching Aragona wrestle in the Pitt Classic he faced an unranked kid from Pa, and he did not overpower the kid, he won approx. 4-1.
In the NJ states I didn't think he was overpowering, winning the final 7-1, Semifinal 6-1, and Qtrs 6-4. He is a very quick, finesse wrestler. IMO, he may need a year to develop the strength needed to win consistently in the Big10.
It sure helped Ashnault a lot. I would be very surprised if Aragona was noticeably better than a much older Lipari or Firestone. But you never know. Also, I wonder what the prospects are for Malcolm Robinson?

Robinson will probably go down to 125 if he can make it.I think he would be better suitable there competing for the spot with Aguilar or if Suriano does somehow qualifies taking an Olympic redshirt then 133 is open for competition for either Robinson or Firestone.
 

RULoyal

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Anthony Ashnault red shirted as a freshman, if the staff thinks Aragona will benefit from a RS year,and Ashanult was a 4x State Champ probably higher ranked coming out of HS than Aragona, then don't be surprised. . In watching Aragona wrestle in the Pitt Classic he faced an unranked kid from Pa, and he did not overpower the kid, he won approx. 4-1.
In the NJ states I didn't think he was overpowering, winning the final 7-1, Semifinal 6-1, and Qtrs 6-4. He is a very quick, finesse wrestler. IMO, he may need a year to develop the strength needed to win consistently in the Big10.
It sure helped Ashnault a lot. I would be very surprised if Aragona was noticeably better than a much older Lipari or Firestone. But you never know. Also, I wonder what the prospects are for Malcolm Robinson?
I may be mistaken but wasn’t AA also injured his freshman year which is why he got his 6th year?
 
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BanjoSaysWoof

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Aragona is great, but unless he is sitting on multiple age level world titles, a redshirt is probably the way to go. Build slowly. Don’t rush a guy into the lineup. This is our best recruit since ashnault. Let’s nurture him, not nudge him.
 
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I may be mistaken but wasn’t AA also injured his freshman year which is why he got his 6th year?

AA redshirted his first year.He took 8th that year so it was beneficial.No he got the 6th year because he was hurt all of last year due to shoulder & knee injuries.
 

Abro1975

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I may be mistaken but wasn’t AA also injured his freshman year which is why he got his 6th year?


He wrestled almost 20 matches unattached, so I doubt he was injured. He also came in first at the National Collegiate Open,.

PS- I think there is a good chance that Ashnault is going to be as good a recruiter for RU as he was a wrestler. The kid bleeds Scarlet !
 

Corby

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He wrestled almost 20 matches unattached, so I doubt he was injured. He also came in first at the National Collegiate Open,.

PS- I think there is a good chance that Ashnault is going to be as good a recruiter for RU as he was a wrestler. The kid bleeds Scarlet !
Ashnault was injured his first year during his redshirt he wrestled 2 opens early in the year and was out until NCO in March.He also missed last year with a injury.He missed all of last year and got a 6th year.
 

Corby

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Aragona is great, but unless he is sitting on multiple age level world titles, a redshirt is probably the way to go. Build slowly. Don’t rush a guy into the lineup. This is our best recruit since ashnault. Let’s nurture him, not nudge him.
Aragona will RS next year to start the year if he's having a good year and is the best guy they will pull his shirt.The staff isn't against wrestling a true freshman if he's the best guy
 

BanjoSaysWoof

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Aragona will RS next year to start the year if he's having a good year and is the best guy they will pull his shirt.The staff isn't against wrestling a true freshman if he's the best guy

Him being the best guy in a given year isn’t the point IMO. It’s whats best for his career.
 
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Robinson will probably go down to 125 if he can make it.I think he would be better suitable there competing for the spot with Aguilar or if Suriano does somehow qualifies taking an Olympic redshirt then 133 is open for competition for either Robinson or Firestone.
I would not assume Metzler is out of the picture yet at 125. $$$$
 

jerzey devil

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I may be mistaken but wasn’t AA also injured his freshman year which is why he got his 6th year?

The plan was to redshirt him anyways.. Getting hurt and missing almost the entire season and combined with missing last year got him the 6th year...
 
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Abro1975

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2013-14 (As a freshman): Redshirt season ... went 15-3 wrestling unattached at 141 pounds ... finished in first place at the National Collegiate Open, going 5-0 to claim top honors (March 2) ... went 3-2 at the Jonathan Kaloust Bearcat Open (Nov. 10) ... finished in third place with a 7-1 clip at the Clarion Open (Nov. 3).

https://scarletknights.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=6797
https://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/11803/ashnault-anthony/profile

Seems Ashnault was healthy to wrestling in November and still healthy to wrestle in March.
 

Caliknight

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Stupid question from someone that knows nothing about wrestling. Do heavyweights have a max weight? What is a wrestlers walking around weight as compared to that which they would normally wrestle at?
 

RULoyal

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2013-14 (As a freshman): Redshirt season ... went 15-3 wrestling unattached at 141 pounds ... finished in first place at the National Collegiate Open, going 5-0 to claim top honors (March 2) ... went 3-2 at the Jonathan Kaloust Bearcat Open (Nov. 10) ... finished in third place with a 7-1 clip at the Clarion Open (Nov. 3).

https://scarletknights.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=6797
https://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/11803/ashnault-anthony/profile

Seems Ashnault was healthy to wrestling in November and still healthy to wrestle in March.
All well and good but if he was not granted a medical RS for that year he would not have received a sixth year.
 

ScarletGrapfan

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Stupid question from someone that knows nothing about wrestling. Do heavyweights have a max weight? What is a wrestlers walking around weight as compared to that which they would normally wrestle at?

Cali, HWT max weight is 285. Wrestlers walking around weight will vary greatly. These guys train year round so they are really never out of shape(most will move up a weight or more in "off-season" competion). Non wrestling fans really do not understand the discipline to make weight for an entire college wrestling season. These guys miss out on a ton of meals...Lol. I would guess the guys from 141 to 184 if they could eat what they want would all be 20lbs(or a little more) over their competition weight. And they would still have a very low body fat %.
 

BanjoSaysWoof

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Stupid question from someone that knows nothing about wrestling. Do heavyweights have a max weight? What is a wrestlers walking around weight as compared to that which they would normally wrestle at?

No such thing as a stupid question.

Upper limit for heavy weight is 285.

A wrestlers walk around weight varies by wrestler. Last year, at 157, Micah was apparently walking around at 153 or so. On average, I would say a guys summer weight is about a weight class up. In season they probably walk around within 5-7 lbs of their wrestling weight. Depends on the wrestler and weight class. Spencer lee I think walks around at 128 (I heard somewhere), whereas Vincenzo Joseph I hear is about 190 in the summer and walks around in season around 172 (again, heard it somewhere. Don’t remember where).

The weight cutting rules are very clear and prevent too much weight loss. No more rubber suits and suanas.
 
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Caliknight

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Thanks guys. All athletes at this level watch what they eat to varying degrees but wrestlers obviously take it to a much different level.
 

RULoyal

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No such thing as a stupid question.

Upper limit for heavy weight is 285.

A wrestlers walk around weight varies by wrestler. Last year, at 157, Micah was apparently walking around at 153 or so. On average, I would say a guys summer weight is about a weight class up. In season they probably walk around within 5-7 lbs of their wrestling weight. Depends on the wrestler and weight class. Spencer lee I think walks around at 128 (I heard somewhere), whereas Vincenzo Joseph I hear is about 190 in the summer and walks around in season around 172 (again, heard it somewhere. Don’t remember where).

The weight cutting rules are very clear and prevent too much weight loss. No more rubber suits and suanas.
No more Tab Thackers or Chris Taylors!
 
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rutgersron

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No such thing as a stupid question.

Upper limit for heavy weight is 285.

A wrestlers walk around weight varies by wrestler. Last year, at 157, Micah was apparently walking around at 153 or so. On average, I would say a guys summer weight is about a weight class up. In season they probably walk around within 5-7 lbs of their wrestling weight. Depends on the wrestler and weight class. Spencer lee I think walks around at 128 (I heard somewhere), whereas Vincenzo Joseph I hear is about 190 in the summer and walks around in season around 172 (again, heard it somewhere. Don’t remember where).

The weight cutting rules are very clear and prevent too much weight loss. No more rubber suits and suanas.

Rubber suits and saunas really brings back memories...not good memories but memories of a good time in my life. Still bleed wrestling...of course RU!
 
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