Zohran Mamdani - The Communist Wins NYC Mayor Race - Best Of Luck To NYC

[ANEW]

I remember being in the gifted and talented when i was a kid inthe late '70's early '80s . I'm sure there were no parents trying to game any tests at that time but i didn't live in NYC and times are different and so were parenting styles. It wasn't like some super special private school experience, from the little I remember, it just was a little extra. Probably more to keep smart(er) kids from getting bored and being disruptive than anything else.

 

[scotchtiger]

it's all in the behest for equity......so we'll have equity of mediocrity

Yep. Another dem tenet. Everyone should be equally mediocre. Rewarding exceptionalism isn’t fair to the unexceptional.

 

[Rastafarian]

it's all in the behest for equity......so we'll have equity of mediocrity

I remember being in the gifted and talented when i was a kid inthe late '70's early '80s . I'm sure there were no parents trying to game any tests at that time but i didn't live in NYC and times are different and so were parenting styles. It wasn't like some super special private school experience, from the little I remember, it just was a little extra. Probably more to keep smart(er) kids from getting bored and being disruptive than anything else.

He’s only cutting the elementary school gifted program.

And if I was a parent in NYC I would absolutely pay to prep my kid to get in the existing gifted program. If that’s going to be comparable to a private school in nyc, then you are saving $100k per year, if you can even get your kid into a good private school.

 

[scotchtiger]

He’s only cutting the elementary school gifted program.

And if I was a parent in NYC I would absolutely pay to prep my kid to get in the existing gifted program. If that’s going to be comparable to a private school in nyc, then you are saving $100k per year, if you can even get your kid into a good private school.

I don’t know what the NYC version entails, but for us, it’s not like they are at a different school or anything. They have all of the normal stuff that every other kid has. Then I think they go to SAIL for a couple hours two days a week. They have to miss some things like recess, etc.

In other words, I wouldn’t compare getting into the gifted program at a school in the Bronx to a $100k per year private school education. Unless the NY program is completely different.

 

[Rastafarian]

I don’t know what the NYC version entails, but for us, it’s not like they are at a different school or anything. They have all of the normal stuff that every other kid has. Then I think they go to SAIL for a couple hours two days a week. They have to miss some things like recess, etc.

In other words, I wouldn’t compare getting into the gifted program at a school in the Bronx to a $100k per year private school education. Unless the NY program is completely different.

Good question. I didn’t know but looked it up. Looks like there are two tracks - district and citywide. District is a gifted program at a particular school in the district. So it’s a normal school with a class for gifted students. Those students have a more rigorous curriculum and then are enrolled in honors classes in middle school.

Citywide is a separate school in the city that kids need to be bussed or take the subway to. There are 3 in manhattan, and I think one in queens and one in the Bronx. Apparently admission there is by lottery. The entire school is for gifted students, which seems like it would be a much more desirable option despite the logistical issues of having a 7 year old take the subway 45 min each way every day.

Comparable to a $100k education, probably not. But certainly much better than public and it doesn’t require you to pay over a million bucks to prep your kid for college.

Side note - why would anyone raise kids in NYC?

 

[ANEW]

I don’t know what the NYC version entails, but for us, it’s not like they are at a different school or anything. They have all of the normal stuff that every other kid has. Then I think they go to SAIL for a couple hours two days a week. They have to miss some things like recess, etc.

In other words, I wouldn’t compare getting into the gifted program at a school in the Bronx to a $100k per year private school education. Unless the NY program is completely different.

Thats in line with what I remember from back in the day in elementary school. Mostly no difference just a few periods a week for extra

 

[Allornothing]

He said OUR wealth. How much money does he have:

 

[Allornothing]

This guy is a CIA resource I am betting. Another Obama.

I'm afraid there is only one way out of this. No one will like the outcome.

 

[Allornothing]

How do our lefties feel about Mamdani eliminating gifted and talented programs in schools if he wins election?

I feel like that is the least of worries for the citizens of NYC.

 

[Allornothing]

It was a corrupt program. Abuse of tax payer dollars to provide quality education to primarily well off kids whose parents didn’t want to pay for private school. He’s allocating those funds to the broader school district.

That being said, I think it would’ve been better to restructure the program so it wasn’t abused. You have to have an outlet for talented kids who aren’t challenged by a standard school system but their parents can not afford private school.

Oh, so something that finally affects you.

You have a child who is gifted and now you don't agree with the programs that you have put in place.

 

[fatpiggy]

Personally, I think 52% is way more than anyone’s fair share.

 

[Rastafarian]

Oh, so something that finally affects you.

You have a child who is gifted and now you don't agree with the programs that you have put in place.

Not sure what you are getting at here.

 

[fatpiggy]

 

[fatpiggy]

Well they won’t be able to say they didn’t know what they were getting

 

[fatpiggy]

 

[UrHuckleberry]

Man the options for such a large city are so so bad.

 

[UrHuckleberry]

duplicate

 

[Rastafarian]

That’s pretty misleading since he still has 90%+ odds

 

[fatpiggy]

That’s pretty misleading since he still has 90%+ odds

It's not misleading at all. It clearly states "If he continues falling"

 

[drnuckles6]

It's not misleading at all. It clearly states "If he continues falling"

If he continues falling at the rate he has the past 24 hours

 

[fatpiggy]

If he continues falling at the rate he has the past 24 hours

Good reading. Not misleading at all, it's just an observation of fact.

 

[Rastafarian]

It's not misleading at all. It clearly states "If he continues falling"

“Odds collapse”? Yeah, no.

 

[FLaw47]

Man the options for such a large city are so so bad.

This is where I am. Contrary to what some on this board would believe, I am not on "far left". I think several of Mamdani's proposals are pretty stupid and will piss off a bunch of New Yorkers (ultimately setting back whatever leftist movement there is in this country). That or all of the lefty's will turn on him when he can't deliver.

I guess he's who I'd vote for if I lived there but I sure wouldn't be thrilled about it.

 

[fatpiggy]

This is where I am. Contrary to what some on this board would believe, I am not on "far left". I think several of Mamdani's proposals are pretty stupid and will piss off a bunch of New Yorkers (ultimately setting back whatever leftist movement there is in this country). That or all of the lefty's will turn on him when he can't deliver.

I guess he's who I'd vote for if I lived there but I sure wouldn't be thrilled about it.

Newsflash - If you would vote for a communist you are far left. It’s ok, just own it.

 

[UrHuckleberry]

Newsflash - If you would vote for a communist you are far left. It’s ok, just own it.

The other options are so so bad. But you're gonna do you.

 

[FLaw47]

Newsflash - If you would vote for a communist you are far left. It’s ok, just own it.

 

[fatpiggy]

The other options are so so bad. But you're gonna do you.

Like i said, there is nothing wrong with it. But you can't claim you would vote for a communist and then in the same sentence claim you are not far left.

I never said there were good options. You could not vote. You could write in a vote etc. But voting for an actual communist gives you the label of far left.

 

[tigres88]

Like i said, there is nothing wrong with it. But you can't claim you would vote for a communist and then in the same sentence claim you are not far left.

I never said there were good options. You could not vote. You could write in a vote etc. But voting for an actual communist gives you the label of far left.

This is why pig boi and the others in America are Conservatives/MAGA. There is ZERO nuance, understanding, or grey in anything they think or espouse. Everything is black and white, binary, and leaves zero room for nuance (unless they decide, on a whim, their hypocrisy or the hypocrisy of those they follow demands said nuance).

We shouldn't be surprised.

 

[FLaw47]

Like i said, there is nothing wrong with it. But you can't claim you would vote for a communist and then in the same sentence claim you are not far left.

I never said there were good options. You could not vote. You could write in a vote etc. But voting for an actual communist gives you the label of far left.

Do you feel like maybe this isn't the most productive way to have a conversation?

 

[fatpiggy]

Do you feel like maybe this isn't the most productive way to have a conversation?

I think it's appropriate to call others on their BS.

Maybe you are in the center right there with Steve Bannon, Nick Fuentes et al.

 

[Clemblack]

I hope the muslim communist wins. Not that we need it, but this will help MAGA tremendously.

 

[UrHuckleberry]

Like i said, there is nothing wrong with it. But you can't claim you would vote for a communist and then in the same sentence claim you are not far left.

I never said there were good options. You could not vote. You could write in a vote etc. But voting for an actual communist gives you the label of far left.

Like I said, you're gonna do you.

 

[FLaw47]

I think it's appropriate to call others on their BS.

Maybe you are in the center right there with Steve Bannon, Nick Fuentes et al.

I'm not in the center. I'm in the center of the Democratic party. I know it's hard for some to imagine, but a lot of people have serious qualms about voting for someone who is repugnant on a personal level (Cuomo). (Separately, I genuinely can't tell if you're trying to be funny in describing Banon and Fuentes as center or if you're just that far gone).

Writing in a candidate or not voting isn't some get out of jail free card for a tough decision - it's abdication of your responsibility. In this country you can vote for the best (or least bad) person who can actually win or you can leave it up to chance and pat yourself on the back.

That I might find a socialist the least bad choice in an election doesn't make me a socialist. Nor does one's support of Donald Trump make them a perpetrator of sexual assault.

 

[fatpiggy]

I'm not in the center. I'm in the center of the Democratic party. I know it's hard for some to imagine, but a lot of people have serious qualms about voting for someone who is repugnant on a personal level (Cuomo). (Separately, I genuinely can't tell if you're trying to be funny in describing Banon and Fuentes as center or if you're just that far gone).

Writing in a candidate or not voting isn't some get out of jail free card for a tough decision - it's abdication of your responsibility. In this country you can vote for the best (or least bad) person who can actually win or you can leave it up to chance and pat yourself on the back.

That I might find a socialist the least bad choice in an election doesn't make me a socialist. Nor does one's support of Donald Trump make them a perpetrator of sexual assault.

I'm saying that you describing yourself as center is like Bannon and Fuentes describing themselves as center. It was a joke.

Mamdani is not a socialist, he is a communist. Voting for a communist makes you far left.

No big deal. Describe yourself how you want. But the rest of us know that you are far left.

 

[tigres88]

I'm saying that you describing yourself as center is like Bannon and Fuentes describing themselves as center. It was a joke.

Mamdani is not a socialist, he is a communist. Voting for a communist makes you far left.

No big deal. Describe yourself how you want. But the rest of us know that you are far left.

This sad sack always makes definitive statements about other people, their beliefs, and large swaths of humanity when he literally has his head in the sand and refuses to ever see anything outside his point of view. It's a sad existence

 

[FLaw47]

I'm saying that you describing yourself as center is like Bannon and Fuentes describing themselves as center. It was a joke.

Mamdani is not a socialist, he is a communist. Voting for a communist makes you far left.

No big deal. Describe yourself how you want. But the rest of us know that you are far left.

My dude, the (admittedly bastion of the far left) Associated Press says he's not a communist. I hope we're better than just making stuff up (we're not, I know). I don't even support his socialist stuff.

I don't find the grocery store stuff especially concerning. If it fails then whatever. That's no more communist than the VA is.

His rent control stuff is a lot more concerning to me. That's been shown again and again to be bad policy yet here he is with it.

 

[fatpiggy]

I can’t access poly market, but I’d throw a small bit for those odds.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see what happens if he wins. The people of NYC have to live with their decision so more power to them. If that’s what they want then so be it. Good luck to them, I genuinely hope it works out well for them although I have my doubts.

 

[dpic73]

I can’t access poly market, but I’d throw a small bit for those odds.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see what happens if he wins. The people of NYC have to live with their decision so more power to them. If that’s what they want then so be it. Good luck to them, I genuinely hope it works out well for them although I have my doubts.

 

[dpic73]

My dude, the (admittedly bastion of the far left) Associated Press says he's not a communist. I hope we're better than just making stuff up (we're not, I know). I don't even support his socialist stuff.

I don't find the grocery store stuff especially concerning. If it fails then whatever. That's no more communist than the VA is.

His rent control stuff is a lot more concerning to me. That's been shown again and again to be bad policy yet here he is with it.

This is here nor there but my contractors that live in NYC wish they could keep Eric Adams. In their opinion, he's done a good job and looks out for their interests. They also tell me that other contractors they know will be leaving if Mamdani wins, which I was surprised to hear.

 

[Aardvark86]

meanwhile, tomorrow I'll be casting my votes here in central virginia.

In the gubernatorial race, I might have once voted for Spanberger, as I do tend to think that she's a serious person, but good lord she is so banal as to make me question whether she has any business running for an executive position. Beyond that, she has been protected by her party so much over the years that I'm a little frightened to think of just how beholden she will be to them.

I don't really know what the Lieutenant Governor even does in VA, so I'll probably vote my party. (Also, I can pronounce both of my party's candidate's names, which is a plus even if he is gay and a little too libertarian for my taste)

In the race, only one candidate actually understands the job description for an AG, and it sure as hell is not Jay Jones. I'm not a huge Miyares fan, but as best I can tell, Jones is just the devil and will empower some of the local Soros CA's, like Parisa *******-******* in Arlington.

Also, fun fact, in my local delegate race, there is a candidate running named Andrew Hartless, who is using the slogan "for a kinder Virginia." Who knew that irony can be not only cruel, but also downright hartless."

For sheriff, even though I don't technically know what the job entails relative to the police, I'll vote for the guy who actually took the time to visit my house.