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So I wanted to give the athletic department leadership the benefit of the doubt (clear they didn't make the football hire, seem relatively sharp) but this search has been terrible. One thing you have to know is when to pivot and they seem to have stuck way too long with guys who weren't gonna take the job. I don't doubt IC sources were telling them may was still on the list but it's a problem he was when I think all / most of us knew he wasn't coming. Also just little stuff like IC talking about how they didn't want to fire Hubert one day because of other sports on campus is just them not getting with the modern world. The hire may end up being fine but they process here has been pretty poor
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WildWestHeel

Apr 06, 4:15 PM

Embarrassing post!
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KYTarheel80

Apr 06, 4:16 PM

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Raleigh Heel

Apr 06, 4:17 PM

sageheel47 said:
So I wanted to give the athletic department leadership the benefit of the doubt (clear they didn't make the football hire, seem relatively sharp) but this search has been terrible. One thing you have to know is when to pivot and they seem to have stuck way too long with guys who weren't gonna take the job. I don't doubt IC sources were telling them may was still on the list but it's a problem he was when I think all / most of us knew he wasn't coming. Also just little stuff like IC talking about how they didn't want to fire Hubert one day because of other sports on campus is just them not getting with the modern world. The hire may end up being fine but they process here has been pretty poor
Cool story - certainly glad this is only the 5,979th thread with some version of this. Once again, an IQ requirement would be a wonderful addition to this community.
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TParker23

Apr 06, 4:17 PM

sageheel47 said:
So I wanted to give the athletic department leadership the benefit of the doubt (clear they didn't make the football hire, seem relatively sharp) but this search has been terrible. One thing you have to know is when to pivot and they seem to have stuck way too long with guys who weren't gonna take the job. I don't doubt IC sources were telling them may was still on the list but it's a problem he was when I think all / most of us knew he wasn't coming. Also just little stuff like IC talking about how they didn't want to fire Hubert one day because of other sports on campus is just them not getting with the modern world. The hire may end up being fine but they process here has been pretty poor
Breathe, Touch Grass, take a walk.
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GioToTheHouse

Apr 06, 4:17 PM

Yikes for you.
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chapelhillheel

Apr 06, 4:18 PM

UNC revenue athletics = to seem rather than to be. We have become obsessed with perception rather than just getting a good coach that will win in both football and basketball (obviously less so in bball). But football hired Mack Brown and Belichick to try and win headlines first. Seems like that was the approach taken with the basketball search so far as well. Do we not know what it takes to identify a good basketball coach anymore? I guess we haven't really had to try in 50 years so maybe we've never known and just got lucky?
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Tarheel68

Apr 06, 4:20 PM

Not yet but the clock is ticking
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NOEL Rules

Apr 06, 4:21 PM

Hey, I understand you may be upset, but who says they didn’t pivot? Just because you’re not in the loop doesn’t mean things are what they seem. Be careful not to let social media insanity cloud reality. UNC is going after big targets, and I think it’s worth seeing where things stand. I get that nobody likes anything negative associated with the program. I don’t like it either, but you have to do your due diligence. Getting the best coach means taking some swings and misses. Also, the national media is lazy and cherry-picks ad nauseam, which doesn’t help. When you’re conducting a calculated and well-versed search, of course some things will get out. But one consistent theme is that nobody really knows much. We’ve kept things close to the vest. Because of that, people are filling in the blanks, and others are running with a false narrative. Let’s see how it plays out before we rush to judgment. UNC “Chicken Littles” are alive and well.
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unctarheel1984

Apr 06, 4:22 PM

sageheel47 said:
So I wanted to give the athletic department leadership the benefit of the doubt …
Then you should do exactly that.
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ckamm1

Apr 06, 4:24 PM

Some of y’all are so damn weird. The approach we’ve taken has cost us absolutely nothing thus far.
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coopheels44

Apr 06, 4:26 PM

how do some of y'all get through your everyday lives? do you have jobs that require any sort of patience or emotional stability?
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MMPADAD

Apr 06, 4:26 PM

When FB level understanding comes to the IC
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TheHeelsDJ

Apr 06, 4:30 PM

sageheel47 said:
So I wanted to give the athletic department leadership the benefit of the doubt (clear they didn't make the football hire, seem relatively sharp) but this search has been terrible. One thing you have to know is when to pivot and they seem to have stuck way too long with guys who weren't gonna take the job. I don't doubt IC sources were telling them may was still on the list but it's a problem he was when I think all / most of us knew he wasn't coming. Also just little stuff like IC talking about how they didn't want to fire Hubert one day because of other sports on campus is just them not getting with the modern world. The hire may end up being fine but they process here has been pretty poor
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PonsterM

Apr 06, 4:30 PM

Raleigh Heel said:
Cool story - certainly glad this is only the 5,979th thread with some version of this. Once again, an IQ requirement would be a wonderful addition to this community.
I vote for a test of emotional regulation over IQ, but both would help
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sageheel47

Apr 06, 4:54 PM

NOEL Rules said:
Hey, I understand you may be upset, but who says they didn’t pivot? Just because you’re not in the loop doesn’t mean things are what they seem. Be careful not to let social media insanity cloud reality. UNC is going after big targets, and I think it’s worth seeing where things stand. I get that nobody likes anything negative associated with the program. I don’t like it either, but you have to do your due diligence. Getting the best coach means taking some swings and misses. Also, the national media is lazy and cherry-picks ad nauseam, which doesn’t help. When you’re conducting a calculated and well-versed search, of course some things will get out. But one consistent theme is that nobody really knows much. We’ve kept things close to the vest. Because of that, people are filling in the blanks, and others are running with a false narrative. Let’s see how it plays out before we rush to judgment. UNC “Chicken Littles” are alive and well.
I think it's all possible but these people are paid a ton of money to be ahead of the curve and they don't seem to be.
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sageheel47

Apr 06, 4:55 PM

ckamm1 said:
Some of y’all are so damn weird. The approach we’ve taken has cost us absolutely nothing thus far.
Idk I think being turned down publicly has some reputational damage but obviously ymmv on how much that matters
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sageheel47

Apr 06, 4:56 PM

PonsterM said:
I vote for a test of emotional regulation over IQ, but both would help
I mean idk continuing to chase guys who you have a very low percentage chance of getting for over a week doesn't seem great.
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steelheel16

Apr 06, 4:56 PM

I have absolutely no issues with the way this search has been conducted.
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ckamm1

Apr 06, 5:01 PM

sageheel47 said:
Idk I think being turned down publicly has some reputational damage but obviously ymmv on how much that matters
You think Lloyd and May passing makes any other coach we’d offer think differently? You think it would affect a kid’s school choice?
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ckamm1

Apr 06, 5:04 PM

sageheel47 said:
I mean idk continuing to chase guys who you have a very low percentage chance of getting for over a week doesn't seem great.
Why? What has been the meaningful negative consequence of seeing things through on the long shots?
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PhilFordWasGod

Apr 06, 5:06 PM

Raleigh Heel said:
Cool story - certainly glad this is only the 5,979th thread with some version of this. Once again, an IQ requirement would be a wonderful addition to this community.
I just don’t get it. People go nuts with uncertainty (like with specific recruits and recruiting generally). I understand the concern, but the conclusions often don’t follow. Anxiety during the process makes sense, but wait and see how it plays out (and stop jumping to conclusions).
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ICVeteran

Apr 06, 5:06 PM

There has been nothing embarrassing about it. Not yet, anyway. It hasn’t concluded as quickly as the OP would like. That’s not the same thing as “embarrassing.”
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Rxheel23

Apr 06, 5:08 PM

Coaches aren't tripping over themselves to come coach a blue blood in the NIL/transfer portal era. Don't need the allure of the school to recruit anymore. There is something to staying where you are already comfortable.
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UNCLife

Apr 06, 5:10 PM

Literally everyone that matters is saying the search is far from embarrassing yet posters still say it's embarrassing

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