If it's Wittingham that's a lazy hire

I can't wait for the day that Warde Manual is fired.

100 percent Hire a young coordinator vs a tired old retread

This is Mike O'Reilly at Nebraska 2.0. This is disgusting.

HugeMFan said:

100 percent Hire a young coordinator vs a tired old retread

Whittingham is ranked a top 10 coach by nearly every list you can find. Why not have him bring stability for 4-5 yrs and hire a coordinator to take over after him? The timing didn’t help Michigan. We need to keep the ship from sinking and Whittingham might be the guy to do that. He’s 66 and that’s why most don’t want him, but he can flat out coach.

KCHURCH said:

Whittingham is ranked a top 10 coach by nearly every list you can find. Why not have him bring stability for 4-5 yrs and hire a coordinator to take over after him? The timing didn’t help Michigan. We need to keep the ship from sinking and Whittingham might be the guy to do that. He’s 66 and that’s why most don’t want him, but he can flat out coach.

I love Kyle Whittingham. I like the fit as well. My only concern is his age besides that I love the hire.

LenDaleWhite said:

This is Mike O'Reilly at Nebraska 2.0. This is disgusting.

Weird comparison. Mike Riley won 10 games once in Oregon State. Whittingham did it 9 times at Utah and won 9 another 4 times

Lazy. 66 year old dude with zero ties to anywhere east of Utah. Fun times!

LenDaleWhite said:

This is Mike O'Reilly at Nebraska 2.0. This is disgusting.

First of all it’s Mike Riley… Second of all, give me a break

Kyle although not the sexy hire will stabilize us quickly. We know he will get the most out of what’s on the roster. We know that the team going forward will be competent, prepared and physical. If he can keep this roster together and hire elite staff members in the areas of need, I’m OK with this.

maizeinsc said:

Lazy. 66 year old dude with zero ties to anywhere east of Utah. Fun times!

The Detroit kids are really gonna connect with a guy from utah.

Ironically I feel like most of the message board takes ripping him will be lazy takes.

I agree.

The laziest hire would have been Biff and for a day or so I was worried he was gaining steam

BlueTK said:

Ironically I feel like most of the message board takes ripping him will be lazy takes.

I agree and disagree, I mean, if you were going to do this, it should’ve been done weeks ago. It seems like they passed on Dillingham and probably got a flat out from KDB camp or someone with common sense in the room said hey guys, we can’t keep waiting on this We have to make a move. Either way I just hope when this is all over Warde Manual gets fired 🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️

If you want to blow the team up, at least do it with someone who has upside like Eck. Whitingham - who had his first 5 star recruit this year- won’t be around when anyone he tries to recruit is a senior.

Theguy49503 said:

Kyle although not the sexy hire will stabilize us quickly. We know he will get the most out of what’s on the roster. We know that the team going forward will be competent, prepared and physical. If he can keep this roster together and hire elite staff members in the areas of need, I’m OK with this.

His stability came from how long he was there. He’s not a quick turnaround guy and took like 4-5 years to establish culture at Utah. He’s also not a good recruiter and relied heavily on LDS kids and being in Utah. He’s no longer gonna have the Utah are pull for LDS kids. The biggest concern is roster retention. He’s a Mormon from Utah that’s gonna have a hard time relating with a team of kids from the Midwest and east coast. He’s largely worked with people of the same background as well. Not have a large exodus of players would take a minor miracle and I don’t think many from Utah would come with the new HC being a promotion and keeping most of the staff intact. Don’t care how good he’s been in the past, if you roll into next years schedule with a depleted roster we’re looking at a 5 to 7 win season

Thedude2403 said:

His stability came from how long he was there. He’s not a quick turnaround guy and took like 4-5 years to establish culture at Utah. He’s also not a good recruiter and relied heavily on LDS kids and being in Utah. He’s no longer gonna have the Utah are pull for LDS kids. The biggest concern is roster retention. He’s a Mormon from Utah that’s gonna have a hard time relating with a team of kids from the Midwest and east coast. He’s largely worked with people of the same background as well. Not have a large exodus of players would take a minor miracle and I don’t think many from Utah would come with the new HC being a promotion and keeping most of the staff intact. Don’t care how good he’s been in the past, if you roll into next years schedule with a depleted roster we’re looking at a 5 to 7 win season

How about we let the man get the job first, and see what he’s going to actually do and who he’s able to retain and higher in regards to staff before we start saying we’re going to be winning five or seven games a year from here on out.

LenDaleWhite said:

The Detroit kids are really gonna connect with a guy from utah.

Dude you hate everyone, go find a woman or something , need a new hobby.

Thedude2403 said:

His stability came from how long he was there. He’s not a quick turnaround guy and took like 4-5 years to establish culture at Utah. He’s also not a good recruiter and relied heavily on LDS kids and being in Utah. He’s no longer gonna have the Utah are pull for LDS kids. The biggest concern is roster retention. He’s a Mormon from Utah that’s gonna have a hard time relating with a team of kids from the Midwest and east coast. He’s largely worked with people of the same background as well. Not have a large exodus of players would take a minor miracle and I don’t think many from Utah would come with the new HC being a promotion and keeping most of the staff intact. Don’t care how good he’s been in the past, if you roll into next years schedule with a depleted roster we’re looking at a 5 to 7 win season

He had them at 13-0 in year 4 after one of the greatest coaches in college football history left there. The year before that he was 9-4. What you just said couldn’t be farther from the truth lol

LenDaleWhite said:

This is Mike O'Reilly at Nebraska 2.0. This is disgusting.

No it’s not just stop.

Theguy49503 said:

How about we let the man get the job first, and see what he’s going to actually do and who he’s able to retain and higher in regards to staff before we start saying we’re going to be winning five or seven games a year from here on out.

I said 5-7 games next year. I think he eventually gets to an 8 or 9 wins a year. What I’m saying is he isn’t a quick turnaround guy like Jim he takes time to establish it, which worked in the old days. With NIL long term builders have a harder time than a quick turn around guy like Jim. Add in he’s been talking about retirement for the past three years already.

maizeinsc said:

Lazy. 66 year old dude with zero ties to anywhere east of Utah. Fun times!

It pains me to say it, but this is the NIL and transfer portal era. It’s less about ties and more about “How much can you pay me?”.

Thedude2403 said:

I said 5-7 games next year. I think he eventually gets to an 8 or 9 wins a year. What I’m saying is he isn’t a quick turnaround guy like Jim he takes time to establish it, which worked in the old days. With NIL long term builders have a harder time than a quick turn around guy like Jim. Add in he’s been talking about retirement for the past three years already.

Sorry, misread that, with that being said, let’s see if he can stabilize the roster and bring in good coordinators even before we decide what’s going to happen because reality is we don’t know. Kyle doesn’t strike me as an idiot and I’m pretty sure first and foremost. The thing on his mind is how do I keep this roster together and this recruiting class together. With the resources that Utah had he would be considered a great recruiter and we know he can develop the key is getting him here immediately if he is the guy and having a competent plan for all the things I mentioned overall we just have to wait and see he was not my first choice but out of the options we have available right now. He looks like the best choice.

Much better thank Brohm. Also, just because Michigan is viewed as a top 10 job doesn't mean they were going to get top 10 interest. Leadership around the program has been a mess and this is a step toward fixing it. Let's hope he can keep the roster together, we know he can coach, money will get the assistants needed and recruits.