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Jaybo

Feb 27, 8:41 PM

Cdog12 said:
Just proof how important Men's basketball is. We suck and still make a profit
Just checked Auburn and Bama. For the last 3-4 years their men’s programs have $4-$5 million in profits each year. They spend $3-$5 million more than LSU each year
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shrlsu23

Feb 27, 8:44 PM

A few questions and observations: 1. How is the ticket office bleeding out 2 million dollars 2. Our merchandise revenue across the board is only $1.1 million? Feels low with the cost of all the stuff I've seen. That's across the entire athletic department! 3. Biggest negative sports: Women's BBall - $8 million Track -$6.7 million Swimming & Diving - -$3.6 million Gymnastics -$3 million I'm sorry but Women's basketball operating at a negative 8 million dollar deficit is abhorrent. We all love the lady tigers success, but that's a horrible business model for the amount of success they have seen. Baseball is where it always is, a little in the red or black. Track just isn't a spectator sport, it has a large team so travel is expensive. The stadium is also a dump. Women's Basketball is the albatross on the department. It generated no where near the revenue that it consumes. Men's basketball as garbage as it is, operated +$2.25 million. Thank you TV contracts. We are missing out on revenue here though. Tough decisions have to be made in the future with rev share, but WBB got to change. Jay needs a bump and it's gonna come out of Kim's wallet.
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Matthew Brune

Feb 27, 9:29 PM

shrlsu23 said:
A few questions and observations: 1. How is the ticket office bleeding out 2 million dollars 2. Our merchandise revenue across the board is only $1.1 million? Feels low with the cost of all the stuff I've seen. That's across the entire athletic department! 3. Biggest negative sports: Women's BBall - $8 million Track -$6.7 million Swimming & Diving - -$3.6 million Gymnastics -$3 million I'm sorry but Women's basketball operating at a negative 8 million dollar deficit is abhorrent. We all love the lady tigers success, but that's a horrible business model for the amount of success they have seen. Baseball is where it always is, a little in the red or black. Track just isn't a spectator sport, it has a large team so travel is expensive. The stadium is also a dump. Women's Basketball is the albatross on the department. It generated no where near the revenue that it consumes. Men's basketball as garbage as it is, operated +$2.25 million. Thank you TV contracts. We are missing out on revenue here though. Tough decisions have to be made in the future with rev share, but WBB got to change. Jay needs a bump and it's gonna come out of Kim's wallet.
wbb is worth millions in marketing and brand value, which Verge himself has talked about. LSU loves having primetime slots on ESPN when football is over and WBB gives them that. It's very worthwhile to Verge to have that. Just something to keep in mind when looking at raw numbers
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HybridTheory

Feb 27, 9:47 PM

Cdog12 said:
Just proof how important Men's basketball is. We suck and still make a profit
How much of that comes from having an SEC-SEC title game? What does it look like in a year without NCAAT success conference-wide?
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droussel223

Feb 27, 9:49 PM

shrlsu23 said:
A few questions and observations: 1. How is the ticket office bleeding out 2 million dollars 2. Our merchandise revenue across the board is only $1.1 million? Feels low with the cost of all the stuff I've seen. That's across the entire athletic department! 3. Biggest negative sports: Women's BBall - $8 million Track -$6.7 million Swimming & Diving - -$3.6 million Gymnastics -$3 million I'm sorry but Women's basketball operating at a negative 8 million dollar deficit is abhorrent. We all love the lady tigers success, but that's a horrible business model for the amount of success they have seen. Baseball is where it always is, a little in the red or black. Track just isn't a spectator sport, it has a large team so travel is expensive. The stadium is also a dump. Women's Basketball is the albatross on the department. It generated no where near the revenue that it consumes. Men's basketball as garbage as it is, operated +$2.25 million. Thank you TV contracts. We are missing out on revenue here though. Tough decisions have to be made in the future with rev share, but WBB got to change. Jay needs a bump and it's gonna come out of Kim's wallet.
Women should show better numbers once the TV contract changes and the women teams get a payout from participating in the tournament. You do not always see the financial results in the hard numbers. Sometimes some advantages cannot be measured in a hard number.
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GlenOaks

Feb 27, 9:55 PM

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Hokomojo

Feb 27, 10:07 PM

Matthew Brune said:
wbb is worth millions in marketing and brand value, which Verge himself has talked about. LSU loves having primetime slots on ESPN when football is over and WBB gives them that. It's very worthwhile to Verge to have that. Just something to keep in mind when looking at raw numbers
People don’t like to hear this, but women’s basketball is far more important for the brand than baseball. It’s the third most important sport on campus behind football and men’s basketball.
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shrlsu23

Feb 27, 10:33 PM

Matthew Brune said:
wbb is worth millions in marketing and brand value, which Verge himself has talked about. LSU loves having primetime slots on ESPN when football is over and WBB gives them that. It's very worthwhile to Verge to have that. Just something to keep in mind when looking at raw numbers
that's a good point. If it's that valuable, how is it not more cost effective? College Baseball is still not as popular as we all see it as. Mostly only the south cares about it.
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PTguru

Feb 27, 11:03 PM

shrlsu23 said:
A few questions and observations: 1. How is the ticket office bleeding out 2 million dollars 2. Our merchandise revenue across the board is only $1.1 million? Feels low with the cost of all the stuff I've seen. That's across the entire athletic department! 3. Biggest negative sports: Women's BBall - $8 million Track -$6.7 million Swimming & Diving - -$3.6 million Gymnastics -$3 million I'm sorry but Women's basketball operating at a negative 8 million dollar deficit is abhorrent. We all love the lady tigers success, but that's a horrible business model for the amount of success they have seen. Baseball is where it always is, a little in the red or black. Track just isn't a spectator sport, it has a large team so travel is expensive. The stadium is also a dump. Women's Basketball is the albatross on the department. It generated no where near the revenue that it consumes. Men's basketball as garbage as it is, operated +$2.25 million. Thank you TV contracts. We are missing out on revenue here though. Tough decisions have to be made in the future with rev share, but WBB got to change. Jay needs a bump and it's gonna come out of Kim's wallet.
Track is the ridiculous one. WBB puts eyes on LSU. Track does nothing to help the Brand.
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Cdog12

Feb 27, 11:29 PM

HybridTheory said:
How much of that comes from having an SEC-SEC title game? What does it look like in a year without NCAAT success conference-wide?
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LynnB33

Feb 27, 11:32 PM

Matthew Brune said:
wbb is worth millions in marketing and brand value, which Verge himself has talked about. LSU loves having primetime slots on ESPN when football is over and WBB gives them that. It's very worthwhile to Verge to have that. Just something to keep in mind when looking at raw numbers
wbb needs to redo the tv contracts for them to start making money….the wnba finally made a profit this year and it’s gonna keep going up with the expansion and tv contracts
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wamlaw

Feb 27, 11:41 PM

shrlsu23 said:
A few questions and observations: 1. How is the ticket office bleeding out 2 million dollars 2. Our merchandise revenue across the board is only $1.1 million? Feels low with the cost of all the stuff I've seen. That's across the entire athletic department! 3. Biggest negative sports: Women's BBall - $8 million Track -$6.7 million Swimming & Diving - -$3.6 million Gymnastics -$3 million I'm sorry but Women's basketball operating at a negative 8 million dollar deficit is abhorrent. We all love the lady tigers success, but that's a horrible business model for the amount of success they have seen. Baseball is where it always is, a little in the red or black. Track just isn't a spectator sport, it has a large team so travel is expensive. The stadium is also a dump. Women's Basketball is the albatross on the department. It generated no where near the revenue that it consumes. Men's basketball as garbage as it is, operated +$2.25 million. Thank you TV contracts. We are missing out on revenue here though. Tough decisions have to be made in the future with rev share, but WBB got to change. Jay needs a bump and it's gonna come out of Kim's wallet.
2. Merchandise - the old Nike deal was wayyyyy undervalued. With the new deal, I would assume that number should skyrocket.
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Cdog12

Feb 27, 11:48 PM

Matthew Brune said:
wbb is worth millions in marketing and brand value, which Verge himself has talked about. LSU loves having primetime slots on ESPN when football is over and WBB gives them that. It's very worthwhile to Verge to have that. Just something to keep in mind when looking at raw numbers
Now imagine this but with men's basketball.
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PTguru

Feb 27, 11:48 PM

LynnB33 said:
wbb needs to redo the tv contracts for them to start making money….the wnba finally made a profit this year and it’s gonna keep going up with the expansion and tv contracts
Do people really watch WNBA? When does it come on? What channel?
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LynnB33

Feb 28, 12:33 AM

Yes they do lol but it comes on ESPN/ABC, CBS, ION and Amazon
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Jaybo

Feb 28, 3:20 AM

LSU needs to figure out what schools like Auburn and Alabama are doing and copy them. I looked at those 2 and their profit from MBB the last 3-4 years ending with 2025 fiscal year. They both spent around $20 million per year and made $4-$5 million profit each. We spent $10 million and made $2 million. Anyone notice WBB salaries are around $500,000 more than WBB salaries with about equal staff.
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LWT

Feb 28, 3:47 AM

Cdog12 said:
Now imagine this but with men's basketball.
Good point here as well!
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BigC70

Feb 28, 5:11 AM

shrlsu23 said:
that's a good point. If it's that valuable, how is it not more cost effective? College Baseball is still not as popular as we all see it as. Mostly only the south cares about it.
You talking about cost effective when just looking at the chart they spend roughly the same money across the board. The only difference is the men have 12 mil in revenue while the women have 2 mil. All the men's revenue is in the difference of TV contracts. Thats the lesson in the equal pay argument with people not understanding it doesnt matter how we treat you if people arent paying to see you. It will be interesting what the new contracts looks like for women's college.
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droussel223

Feb 28, 1:14 PM

BigC70 said:
You talking about cost effective when just looking at the chart they spend roughly the same money across the board. The only difference is the men have 12 mil in revenue while the women have 2 mil. All the men's revenue is in the difference of TV contracts. Thats the lesson in the equal pay argument with people not understanding it doesnt matter how we treat you if people arent paying to see you. It will be interesting what the new contracts looks like for women's college.
The women receive no money for participating in March Madness. I was truly amazed about that information when I read about it two years ago. I think that should change which will benefit teams like LSU and conferences like the SEC.
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Jaybo

Feb 28, 1:28 PM

droussel223 said:
The women receive no money for participating in March Madness. I was truly amazed about that information when I read about it two years ago. I think that should change which will benefit teams like LSU and conferences like the SEC.
It likely won’t be much. WBB is not widely viewed. LSU is a brand that is watched. Kim is a rock star as have been several of our players like Reese and FL. Fans at other schools show up at their home games to watch us.
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tigersthib

Feb 28, 2:15 PM

HybridTheory said:
How much of that comes from having an SEC-SEC title game? What does it look like in a year without NCAAT success conference-wide?
Even when the sec was getting 5 teams in the tourney LSU boys basketball still made money while sucking
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tigersthib

Feb 28, 2:19 PM

Jaybo said:
It likely won’t be much. WBB is not widely viewed. LSU is a brand that is watched. Kim is a rock star as have been several of our players like Reese and FL. Fans at other schools show up at their home games to watch us.
The early round game viewing for the women's is low but sweet 16 and on are pretty decent
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TheBub

Feb 28, 2:55 PM

Who cares? Not my money. Eat more Canes

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