15 shutouts since joining the Big Ten
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Do you think GS left Flood with a better team than Ash did? I’m bias?
Funny, I think you are bias for trying to compare the 2.
Ok. All good.
I’m just stating facts. Ash has the most, followed by Greg and then Flood.
Flood was only shut out once with Greg's players? How did recruiting go for Kyle after Greg elevated the program and Flood was HC?
"Tears" is the operative word. Freudian slip???
See above. Flood had Greg's players. Greg had Flood's and Ash's players. No passes need to be given, but Greg had the tougher challenge.
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You know we played a whole game without getting to the red zone . Pathetic
It was the worst game we played this year. No arguments from me. We beat ourselves with the penalties and Iowa at home is pretty good.
Two different challenges. Greg probably had a worse roster. Flood needed to get a roster of American players used to the big ten.
I mean flood had the least amount of games in the BIG ..and he inherited Greg’s teams
Yes..which is why I’m using the shutouts per year stat and not overall shutouts stat
...anyone trying to use the 'shutout metric' to prop Flood up over Schiano has reached a level of myopic thinking that I didn't think was possible.
Joe P.
Joe P.
...I guess we'd have some posters who would be thrilled if right now Rutgers announced that Flood would be replacing Schiano effective immediately.
Joe P.
In 2014, Flood took Greg's players, beat Michigan, should have beaten State Penn, got the team to a 7-5 record, and followed up with a bowl win against NC. That's pretty good and a nice hello to the world that Rutgers could play in the B1G...Too bad the wheels fell off after that and it's on Flood and the support he got as HC..
There are posters here who will tell you he was a great game day coach...off the top of my head I remember he had a goose egg versus Wisconsin which wasn't close into the 4Q like yesterday.
The obsession w rehabilitating Flood and Ash is one of the funniest things the people with Schiano Derangement Syndrome do.
The wheels started falling off in 2012 when flood wasted the talent . There were reasons a legendary poster coined the term “flood is a dud” that season.
Then he should have been fired in 2013 …but we kept him and he did have a successful 2014 . Although it was smoke and mirrors and we got steamrolled that year a few times. Still the wins count…but he was a dud .
Flood got left with a full stable of Schiano talent. Lots different then what Schiano 2.0 had to start with. Just not apples to apples now is it?
Iowa has given up 1 offensive touchdown in last 4 weeks.
You love to find the negative. Maybe, you can be our Negative Historian. It's like you were sitting there waiting for the game to end to post this! What nothing you can add about Flood or a puppy getting hit outside the stadium?
I think flood is a much better game day coach,
Impossible for me to react to hypotheticals however. No clue how we’d be doing.
He was the same as GS. The 1st PSU game in the B1G was the perfect example. Will also add the bowl game against Va Tech in 2012.
I disagree. I think his teams showed much greater offensive upside.
Outside the one year with the Fridge as his OC he wanted to play “bully ball”. The two games I mentioned was so painful, I still have PTSD from it.
Iowa is not a bad team but the thing is: exactly when will Schiano play above his head and beat someone good but not great? It's always next year, more time, more money. I heard this the first time, too...Wisconsin is not a juggernaut this year. That was a loss, too. Another coach would've won. It wasn't unwinnable. At some point you win--or you don't.
What game between 2012-2015 did we win where we out-coached a .500 or better team?
Joe P.
We 'out-coached' Navy, or did we hang on to win the game 31-24? Maryland 2014 I'd say would be a yes...I'm not looking to dump all over Flood but a number of posters here seem to remember about 10 or so games during the Flood years while conveniently forgetting about 20 or more.
Joe P.
Fair enough . But I thought that navy win was one of flood’s best since it came after the Penn state debacle
I do give the team credit for that as well; I think if we beat PSU we would have lost to Navy.
Joe P.
The ongoing question that Greg apologists will never answer.
Amazing.zero wins against winning teams. Yeah I know maybe next year.
You can say that about 8-9 of the teams in that conference
100% the rest is all the Greg Cult trying to deflect and prop him up
yup
what we saw the other night was a absolute clinic in coaching
Greg failed miserably
Given VT and NW's records and remaining schedules, I would say it's time for the anti-GS crowd to start coming up with excuses for how those are "bad wins."
I have no doubt in the creativity...make it some good ones!
Here are the Massey Composite rankings of who our team has beaten this year: 60, 125, 61, 75, 82 and Wagner. Not a Top 50 or Top 60 team in there.
Wisconsin is ranked 47 and the loss wasn't very close--they trailed by 2 or 3 scores the whole game.
Mediocre coaches clean up only on weaklings. Better coaches also beat better teams.