Yep, it wasn't our QB not completing catches, or our line getting manhandled by Iowa's defense, or our abysmal offensive play calling. It was Greg, it's all Greg's fault.
That's a weak evasion. I never said he can't beat winning teams. Maybe others have. I've always said he has a ceiling in the middle of the pack. Being unable to beat Top 50/60 teams proves that.
You know either way, who is really excited by a coach that never wins big games? He has 1 truly big win in his entire career. And what reason do we have to believe that this team will be any more likely to beat better teams next year than this year? Our passing game still barely exists. Do we have reason to believe it's going to be much better next year?
I'm right there with you
I think that would be a valid criticism of Schiano at this point. That being noted, on what basis is Flood a "better gameday coach"? If you're using the 'beating P5 teams with a winning record' metric, Flood had 3 of those in the 4 years he was here, with 2 of them coming in his first season (2012) when the team was still pretty much Schiano's.
Flood did far better with Greg's kids than Greg did. that is not even debatable amongst Greg's hardest supporters
...based on what?????? Please give some sort of contextual answer based on non-cherry-picked data points. You talk about the 'Greg apologists'; you're no different in your type of extreme thinking only you seem to hate the guy instead of think he can do no wrong.
The major blind spot in this program for the last decade has been the coaching and development of QBs. Friedgen was the only coach at RU that actually taught the position. That's why these QBs that are supposed to be saviors are never the answer.
You really think that this team has underperformed this year??? What was your preseason prediction?
Question. If either or both Northwestern or Va Tech finish 7-5 does that count or no because they didn't have a winning record when we played them?
Seriously? We had a poster who started a thread before the season renaming our starting QB "Gavin Winsatt" for all the winning he was going to deliver and there were plenty of posters on this site that agreed with him 100%. Are you now telling us that we weren't in the mix for a B1G title this year with Winsatt as our QB? Also, every week, except maybe the OSU game, we have poster after poster predicting Rutgers winning every game by double digit points in some cases. Now, are you telling us that all of these sports board experts are wrong, how can that be, they all seem pretty sure that are right all of the time, and they are very quick to shout down anyone who disagrees with them?
A players star rating does not always translate particularly with qb’s. Case in point our opponent this week, Penn state. Hackenberg was an all world 5* recruit with offers from every school in the country, McSorely was a 3* who’se only other D1 offer to play quarterback was Vanderbilt. Which one would you pick knowing what we know now?
Is Greg famous for claiming his teams are always ‘Better in November’.
Real talk what progress has our offense made this year? The defense wasn’t the issue last year, we were good there. What noticeable improvements from our offense have you seen this year?
Yes, pretty much everyone for the most part agrees there is progress, but what some posters are tired of are these constant threads after every win over Temple, Wagner, Indiana about Greg not being paid enough and the need to give him an extension and raise and anyone who disagrees is a hater. The over-the-top anointing of the HC after every win is so predictable on this board and it doesn't allow for meaningful discussions among the fans, it puts people in camps, for and against.
no they were in utter chaos when we played them and you know that. I'll wager if we played them today the result would most likely be different. I don't think that is a far stretch or reach either
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I'm not sure I'd say they're under-performing. It depends on the yardstick I guess. His v1.0 teams definitely underperformed. His recruiting classes were comparable to anyone in the conference or better--and aren't his supporters always saying it's about recruiting?--and he never even made it to the 2nd best bowl in the easiest conference let alone come close to winning it.
I look at the 2 games we could have and probably should have won to say under performing. in addition, a qb that woefully lacking and keeping the team back. I think both are examples of under performing
