People who are treated with low expectations from the day they are born will usually perform as expected.
2 more shootings today- at Acorn State and Jackson State.
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I don’t know the spiritual makeup of the Pack, but personally I believe the lack of values, disregard for human life, self-worship, and general bad societal behavior can be attributed to the how much we as a culture have abandoned the Church and Christian teachings/accountability/values. We have allowed secular, anti-Biblical views to run rampant across the board and accepted that a majority of the country sees anything religious as outdated, restrictive or judgmental.
Truth is we’d all benefit from simply darkening a church door more often and actually listening to what God says about good and evil.
Truth is we’d all benefit from simply darkening a church door more often and actually listening to what God says about good and evil.
I don't know if I would call it simple, but I think this is the best solution - fund our criminal justice system the way we fund our military. More police, more courts, and more jails, no matter the cost.
Discussion about gun laws reminds me of when Ole Miss banned sticks from VHS. It was the sticks that were the issue, not people attaching confederate flags to them.
I’ve got a hell of a start.
START at a 5 year sentence enhancement for any crime in which a gun was used to either intimidate or cause harm. Served day for day. No parole. No plea. No sympathy.
That’s on top of what the sentence is in the underlying crime.
That should be agreed on by people who are anti gun and pro gun.
Black people often shoot one another. Don’t shoot the messenger. ( pun intended )
If it was, would we need to direct our military to go in and take action against our own citizens?
Checkmate, bitсh. I’m out.
There is no way to reduce the number of firearms substantially in the US without a government ban or buyback program. What does pro-life have to do with it? Mental illness is the biggest issue we have in these cases.
If we ban guns completely then knives will be next. Do we ban knives? People have driven cars into crowds. Do we ban cars? Freedom doesn't guarantee that people will live without incident.
The real issue is people with mental issues. How do we find these people and limit their ability to harm or kill others? That is the real issue and it is a tough one.
yea....NO.....why should I be punished for being responsible and accepting instruction from my Dad / Uncles / brother / Grandfather since I was 10 (44 years ago), and passing those same values on to my son? I have shot competitively, hunted all types of game, practiced, and shot just to hear "boom" my entire life. By myself and in fellowship with friends and acquaintances. I would dare to say in all my guns, and 40+ years, I have shot well over 100,000 rounds (in competition we sling some lead, and I think that is a low conservative number)
Why should I be limited to what I own? Why should a law be passed that invades my right to responsibly pursue something that I have enjoyed my entire life?
I genuinely understand why you would say this, but I also respectfully disagree that it is this mindset that further removes accountability, and responsibility from society and makes things worse. Why does the law abiding responsible citizen have to pay a price for those that can not simply abide my modest laws?
I will tell you this, I can invite you into my home, and you would never see a gun or ounce of ammo........but if you come into my home uninvited w/ ill intent, you would realize the error in your decision making process very quick............and it is that error in making decisions that should never guide a law that takes away from those that have no problem abiding in the law.
I have a friend who was raised in the situation where in his words it was "prison or welfare." He and I have had numerous conversations on how to fix the "culture rot," which Clay Edwards has deemed it. He has made a nice life for himself and is out of this type of living.
As others have said, you have to value the family unit. The government has created a series of benefits that discourage two parent households. There's not a better way to say it.
You have to fix education and its not just schools. Look at test scores in these predominantly black districts. In elementary school, the gap between these schools and wealthy suburban schools is way smaller or in some cases non-existent. What happens is in middle school, social pressure to not take academic achievement seriously hits. Making good grades is "trying to be white."
And I did not know this until my friend told me, but you have to fix the churches. A lot of black churches are either scams for a husband/wife pastoral team that "owns" the church and its tax exemption, or ripe with liberation theology nonsense that teaches that ones Worldview comes from skin color. He told me that in many of these churches, Moses is seen as the main biblical figure rather than Jesus.
I have a house full of guns. My wife and I are both very proficient at using them. My next door neighbors don’t have any guns. If you are a criminal which house are you going to target at 3:00am? 2A helps keep us safe.
If it was, would we need to direct our military to go in and take action against our own citizens?
Checkmate, bitсh. I’m out.
The fact that there have been people exonerated due to scientific evidence makes me hesitant about killing people faster.
I was listening to a podcast about Amanda Knox and what that legal system did just because they wanted a quick conviction should be worrisome to everyone. That isn't just Italy, plenty of cases in the US where someone gets steam rolled. A lot of convictions are based on people admitting to crimes that they actually didn't commit due to psychological interrogations.
Of course with Amanda Knox there was also a language barrier.
That is not a great comparison since you don't see confederate flags in the stands at Ole Miss any longer. I think everyone would like it if you said we banned guns and people might still have hate in their heart but no one was being shot. At least I hope people would have more love for people's lives than owning a gun.
Again I am saying if it was guaranteed that the result was no one getting killed. Ole Miss has a ban on flags and now you do not see them at the game.
‘Arms’. It isnt a right to bear guns, its a right to bear arms.
That term is very wide in application, and there are already limits applied to what arms are and arent legal to own/use.
So what gun you can and cant have is already restricted. Did you not realize this?
Correct, a ban on some guns would take place.
‘Arms’ are restricted right now, so restricting arms isnt some crazy concept.
Valuing life and trying to protect it through legislative action and criminal penalty is, to me, a very reasonable concept. And if you claim you are pro-life, then protecting innocent people from being shot seems like a very easy idea to support.
This dumb slippery slope argument just wont die because it is so simple to come up with in the moment.
No, cars wont be banned. They are not ‘arms’.
No, knives wont be mass banned because they are not ‘arms’ that need to be mass banned.
Once more- I am not suggesting all guns be banned. I clearly stated that. I said some guns should be restricted, just like ‘arms’ are already restricted.
And I clearly said it should be more difficult to own a gun. A higher standard is needed.
Additionally, enforced penalties for a gun being used in a crime are needed. Claiming a registered gun was stolen or lost and then used in crime?…if it wasnt reported, then tjat person is charged with involvement in the crime.
Mental illness can explain some shootings. It doesnt explain shootings that are in the heat of the moment or egged on by crowds.
You are masking compassion as blame and trying to claim this issue is because of the mentally ill. That is disgusting.
This issue is because mentally healthy people also misuse guns.
You are already limited in what arms you can own and use.
That very good point aside, this is a case of ‘me vs we’. Your arguments are entirelynself based. They are selfish in nature. You are prioritizing you over a societal improvement.
Once more, I did not suggest a full ban on all guns.
Your selfish perspective is a common view in this country. This is a give and take between selfishness and imoroved societal safety.
One always wons and one always loses.
Well I’m not going to your neighbors, he doesn’t have anything that I’d want!
2A is already restricted. I cant own or use all sorts of arms.
As for your social media arrest concerns, I will say that the dumbest thing we could do, is do nothing about gun deaths and shootings because a countet halfway around the world arrests people for what they say online.
Seriously, that is your argument. Its absurd.
I agree that addressing why the violence is happening is needed.
Shootings are happening because people get emotional and have easy access to guns and bullets.
That is why gun violence is happening.
It is very easy to determine.
Guns dont need to be the leading cause of death for us to act and work to reduce shootings.
Gun violence is hurting others and is a safety concern.
Eating taco bell is hurting yourself and is a health concern.
That comparison is dumb.
But sure- I am happy to entertain looking for ways to make us safer and healthier.
Reduce gun access and ban trans fats. Perfect, we are on the same page now.
Why cant reducing gun access be something that can be worked on while fatherless homes and government spending are also worked on?
Multiple things can be worked on at once.
Execution? Well that is the antithesis of valuing life.
“I value life, except in the following 8 instances!”
Too funny.
It worked. It’s actually brilliant if you think of the 1st amendment issues that it circumvented without infringing on anyone’s 1st amendment rights.
"A gun, like any other source of power, is a force for either good or evil, being neither in itself but dependent upon those who possess it."
Reducing LEGAL firearms? I would suggest that these shooters are in possession of firearms that we NOT legally purchased, not all but a large portion. If the firearms are stolen property they were not legal, if they were a "straw" purchase they were not legally purchased. If the shooter has DV or Felony arrest and has a firearm it is illegal whether or not paperwork was filled out and the SS# used hadn't been entered into the system and the paperwork was filled out by untruthful answers.
The majority of shootings are done by illegal firearms by those who obtained firearms illegally.
Every modern industrialized country in the world has it figured out how to stop it???
Maybe you meant how to reduce it instead?
There were multiple shootings so obviously enough people are not in jail. If you’re old enough to shoot a gun you’re old enough to work hard labor in jail
I, as a law abiding citizen, should not have my rights restricted in any way because somebody else is a POS with no regard for human life. It's really that simple. Everywhere guns have been banned or severely restricted it has not ended well. Ask the Native Americans of 1880's America. Ask the Jews in 1930's Germany. Ask 1970's Cambodia. And ask 2025 Brits.
I feel safe in saying 90%+ of all murders in the country today are in some way drug related. Get that **** out of this country and keep it out and watch the violence in this country plummet.
Bull5hit - when you are surrounded by human garbage you smell like trash. Every person is born a blank slate. Hell people can tame and live with wild animals
Tell me you are historically ignorant without telling me you are historically ignorant.
Actually it’s not. Men can walk the streets of many capital cities around the world after midnight with worrying about a young thug putting a gun in your face. Most places in Asia and Middle East are safe. Europe you’re limited to non-invader areas. Of course Africa is a no. Blax are raised that whites are the cause of their problems so avoid those areas. Indians Muslims are safe unless a easy target white females
Yes. As that great scholar Ron White said, if 3 or more people saw you do it, you go to the front of the line. Or in this case, if its on video, you go straight to the front of the line.
17 that. Any crime committed with a weapon should be the death penalty. If you have a weapon, you are possibly using it. Fry your ***.
Your rights are not restricted just because fewer guns are available. You still have the right to arms.
You are currently restricted from owning multiple types of ‘arms’. What I am suggesting is no different from what currently exists.
Thanks to Biden letting other countries sending all there criminals over here. Then the rot here for worse and jails are full so they just keep letting criminals out.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. mstateglfr is not a real person. It's AI bot used by DS to generate clicks. Nobody smart enough to use a computer to get on this website can be this stupid about every subject on the web.
Just because something may have happened in history does not excuse it now nor does it justify it now.
Supporting the death penalty is counter to being pro life. You can wiggle and try to justify, but it’s just lying to yourself.