2 more shootings today- at Acorn State and Jackson State.
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All these mass/public Shootings involve a couple things.
- a total lack of valuing the miracle and fragility that is life.
- easy access to guns.
people can really suck.
- a total lack of valuing the miracle and fragility that is life.
- easy access to guns.
people can really suck.
You have to look at what is causing people to lack a value of life. That can be debated, but it won’t stop until you do something about fixing that. The right to have a gun isn’t going away. I think it’s pretty obvious as to what is causing the life devaluation. People are in general raised without many limits and no core family unit. Parenting for a lot of kids is basically nonexistent. Way less 2 parent homes. And I think it was done intentionally by the government. I will take off my tinfoil hat now.
We have to fix the family before things get better. Respect for yourself and others starts at home, and if that isn't being taught there then it's not going to magically happen. If you aren't taught to respect yourself how can you value your life much less others? That's not just taking others lives, it's in every walk of life from working with others, to driving the same roads, and shopping with one another.
The right to have a gun shouldn't go away.
We have limitations on what constitutes 'bear arms' right now, so limitations are clearly acceptable.
I fully agree that supportive 2 parent households are more ideal than 1 parent households, simply from a statistical results perspective.
And I fully agree that limits and expectations are important in childhood and society.
But school and public Shootings aren't new. They aren't some recent phenomenon.
We will never fully eliminate Shootings. Valuing life will reduce Shootings.
Reducing legal fire arms will reduce Shootings.
Anyone who is pro-life should support reducing gun access and gun volumes...or they need to really ask themselves if they prioritize life and are actually pro-life.
Again, I am not proposing getting rid of 2A.
We already limit what legal 'arms' means.
If there was a simple fix we would have done it years ago. There is no fix for this that society will accept. Every person has free will to be different than those they were raised with and there are good people in every bad location. My father tried to fix families his whole career in the education business. On one hand you could say any one person saved is a win. On the other hand you could say it's a fart in a whirlwind. The only solution for individuals and families is to move away from the problem areas.
It's already illegal to shoot someone unless it's self defense. It's also illegal for criminals to have firearms. How about instead of telling me if I can or can't have what gun I want as a law abiding citizen, we start expediting trials for murderers and execute them the day after the trial 100% of the time so there is a massive deterrent to such crimes? That will reduce shootings.
Yep. Nothing we can do about it. It’s like this in every modern industrialized country in the world. No country has ever figured out how not to have this. **********
Now we have the FBI coming in. Wonder if they will accept the truth, or keep coming up with ‘excuses’…
The problem is once you start chipping away at the 2A then it becomes easier to keep doing it. There's already some lawmakers and their supporters that are for a full repeal of the 2A. And some of those other countries that have "figured it out" now have people getting arrested for social media posts. You address the reasons this violence is taking place.
We have always had the same gun rights. We have not always had the same school shooting issue. It’s not new but it hasn’t always been this way. And school shootings make up a microscopic part of gun deaths. Most all of them are due to a lack of value of a human life though. Black, white, purple, yellow, or red colored people. Doesn’t matter. When you have parents that don’t do their job and have no consequences for not doing their job (and in many cases get financially incentivized to not do your job as a parent) you get what we have going on now. I’m not for no one getting government assistance. I know that a lot of people are in bad situations not of their own fault, and even if it is their fault I don’t want them to have to starve to death, but it is being taken advantage of to the point of this being a side effect. I don’t know how to fix it, but you can’t regulate hate and a lack of morals into decreasing this. You have to get to the root of what is making people want to do it to start with, because if they want to do it they are going to do it.
And we have people getting arrested for doing their jobs as law enforcement. We aren’t some special case. We aren’t immune from anything humans can come up with. There is a solution but we consistently refuse to do it.
There’s a simple fix and I would be willing to pay more taxes for it ….follow the El Salvador plan. Build more jails and fill them up!!! 1% of the people cause 99% of the problems. No more deadbeat fathers, liquor store thieves, 5hitty 5hitty obese b1tches robbing Walmarts or wrecking coffee shops, and no more 30 arrest thugs stabbing wyt girls on a train
We already incarcerate close to 1% of our population. I think 20% of the entire world’s prisoners are in the US.
There’s a gun in my glove box right now. Real easy access. There’s a gun in a fake picture frame right next to my bed. Real easy access. They’ve never up and shot anyone. Real easy access ain’t the issue. It’s people that’s the issue. Stop trying to make it something it isn’t.
We know why you made your original post. It’s obvious. Agenda.
We can discuss limiting amendment 2A AFTER we fix crime and fatherless homes and government spending.
I won’t be reading your long meaningless response that is inevitably dumb as 17.
We realize this is bc you don’t have an intelligent reply.
Give us a solution?
you wanna round up all guns? Guaranteed fighting in the streets over this. Also forget the fact that it’s basically impossible to do.
wanna just get rid of the big bad assault rifle? An AR isn’t an assault rifle. Less accurate than a deer rifle and less powerful. Just has a bigger clip.
wanna reduce clip size? Ok criminals will just have 10 ten round clips. Or 15. Or 20. Or 30.
the majority of mass shootings or shootings in general are done with hand guns. These recently were probably with something besides an AR.
SO GIVE US A REASONABLE “GUN CONTROL” SOLUTION.
YOU CANT.
Well the USA is safer than a lot of places so….
Gun control not the issue
Bingo. If the U.S. justice system started executing murders, the murders would decrease.
But what the U.S. has now is posers on social media with their guns, killing people and get street creed while they are fed and housed in the prison.
Are we talking about abortion or guns here? Society as a whole has really come apart.
Also, guns are far from one of the leading causes of death in this country. If all this hand wringing is about saving lives, how about "common sense" control measures on the leading causes. The first being heart disease. Maybe we should ban KFC and Taco Bell. No longer allow govt money to be used by citizens to buy twinkies and hamburger helper in Kroger. Fatal car accidents...nobody needs a car that can go 120. Maybe we should ban engines that can go over 40mph. Bring those causes of death down to the levels of gun violence then we can talk about that.
Yeah but we can get our execution numbers up. There are people on death row for decades. Ridiculous. That dude who stabbed the girl on the subway should be room temp already. The appeal process isn’t for him.
Until you fix the home, and the courts, and follow through with punishment, teach respect and values, and HOLD PEOPLE to those expectations as a member of society.....then this will always exist.
I have more guns than you can shake a stick at, and they have never gotten up out of their safe keeping and taking another human life
Personal responsibility and living in community where we hold others accountable matters and means something and we need to get back to that in a big way
*I bring up courts b/c I live in Jackson / Hinds county, and these judges are not doing their job at all and following bail and sentencing guidelines, and that has become a big part of the Jackson issue and that has to change
I have more guns than you can shake a stick at, and they have never gotten up out of their safe keeping and taking another human life
Personal responsibility and living in community where we hold others accountable matters and means something and we need to get back to that in a big way
*I bring up courts b/c I live in Jackson / Hinds county, and these judges are not doing their job at all and following bail and sentencing guidelines, and that has become a big part of the Jackson issue and that has to change
You really are the dumbest sumbitch on the internet.
And almost all are there for violent crimes and almost all have multiple felonies. We need to imprison more people so law-abiding citizens aren't terrorized by murderers, rapists and carjackers. Such a weird talking point when we have 22,000 murders annually--we have too many people in prison.