Not sure if you are referring to my post, but it wouldn’t surprise me if transferring didn’t come up in conversation between Rod and Shayne. If so, hopefully he follows Suriano and Seabass’s leads.Turley was like a 20 year old freshman and wrestled here for like 7 years lol Ashnault was pretty close to 24 when he won, what young guy was he stealing opportunities from.
and a bunch of grown men dunking on Van Ness for only taking 2nd while our program hasn’t had an AA in 2 years but yea sure he ll definitely want to leave Penn state and come here. Guy is 3,3,2 he’d be the 2nd or 3rd best Rutgers wrestler ever and yall cheering that he lost
Wrestling 2026 Rutgers NCAA Tournament Thread
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That's my issue as well. If I counted the number of Rutgers matches where the opponent was doing nothing but we didn't get a stall call the explanation was always because our guys weren't shooting. Even Jordan seemed surprised on the first stall call because they were in the middle of the f****** mat.
I respectfully disagree that we can't be a top 10 team every year, and sometimes even a medal team.
He didn’t run? Are you serious? He backed up off the whistle and grabbed fingers and went to a knee the whole match, he didn’t even shoot when he was losing late
Problem is Lilledahl took 0 shots and didn't even really attempt to.
Shane wants to be a world champ long term he’s not leaving Penn State that’s wild especially with the current state of the coaching staff. Labriola the most accomplished coach got pinned by multiple Penn state wrestlers in his career , he ain’t leaving and I highly doubt he blames Penn state or the coaches as the reason he hasn’t won a title. And no I wasn’t responding to you. I was responding to others cheering SvN lose and Leonard and his shenanigans
Wrestling in general has a stalling problem. Defensive guys winning too many matches without taking any shots.
If that’s what it takes to do better then Rider/Princeton at nationals then yeah… the sport is measured by post season success
No one here is asking for PSU results.. I don’t think you understand the concept that most fans want RU to at least perform to the lvl of resource they are getting…. Should RU be doing worst then Rider/Princeton etc? Are those programs getting more $$?? Most fans were just hoping for 1.5AA for the last few years and to get none 3 out of last 4 year is blah..
2026/27 way too early line up
125: Knox
133: T.Parkins/Gibson/Transfer
141:B. HarerNini/Parkins/Transfer
149:B.Harer Nini/Magro/Transfer
157:C.Harer
165:Barbosa/Ford
174:Ford/Chapman
184:SCW
197: Cotton
285: Has to be a transfer
IMHO: We need 2 transfers. 285is priority #1, 133 likely #2 and a luxury would be 141 or 149.
Some possible transfers:
133: Van Dee (labs, 1 year left), Mougalian (NJ, 1 year left),TK Davis ( GW, small school, small room, I like him, perhaps he could thrive in a better room.)
141: B. Davis (PSU kind of done with him), Zeth Romney (injured this season, 1 season left), Anthony Santaniello (NJ, we recruited him in HS, lost starting spot this year)
149: SVN (no duh), Connor Pierce (psu depth who will never crack lineup)
285: Cochran PSU (could possibly have 1 more year depending on NCAA), Amos wisco (final year, wisco is in rough shape), Mullen VT (NJ), Ziola Neb (We recruited him hard, ferrari may be back for 1 or 2 more years), Nate Schon Drexel (moved around a bunch, 1 year left, came to drexel this year)
125: Knox
133: T.Parkins/Gibson/Transfer
141:B. HarerNini/Parkins/Transfer
149:B.Harer Nini/Magro/Transfer
157:C.Harer
165:Barbosa/Ford
174:Ford/Chapman
184:SCW
197: Cotton
285: Has to be a transfer
IMHO: We need 2 transfers. 285is priority #1, 133 likely #2 and a luxury would be 141 or 149.
Some possible transfers:
133: Van Dee (labs, 1 year left), Mougalian (NJ, 1 year left),TK Davis ( GW, small school, small room, I like him, perhaps he could thrive in a better room.)
141: B. Davis (PSU kind of done with him), Zeth Romney (injured this season, 1 season left), Anthony Santaniello (NJ, we recruited him in HS, lost starting spot this year)
149: SVN (no duh), Connor Pierce (psu depth who will never crack lineup)
285: Cochran PSU (could possibly have 1 more year depending on NCAA), Amos wisco (final year, wisco is in rough shape), Mullen VT (NJ), Ziola Neb (We recruited him hard, ferrari may be back for 1 or 2 more years), Nate Schon Drexel (moved around a bunch, 1 year left, came to drexel this year)
We need 2 or 3 impact transfers if we want to make a jump. I doubt it happens but I'd offer SVN insane $ to see if he'd come home. Would be a great partner for B. Harer to train with too. I give it less than 1% chance
. No thanks on Davis. Too many issues. We need a significant name assistant coach too.Great work and I agree 285 and 133 are #1a/#1b and 149 has to be #2 (assuming Harer goes 141). Don't think you can roll into next season with the talent that's in the room. These guys are all developmental guys and don't see any of them ready yet. Goodale will hype them up, but in the B1G they'll get their teeth kicked in.
Also, I'm hoping Ford lives in a weight room this summer and can take over 174. That kid has a lot of potential if he can bulk up to 174 or grow an inch or two.
how long till Oklahoma st seriously challenges PSU? 2 years?
Bottom kinda.fell out of Ohio st. They looked fierce earlier in the season.
Even bigger bottom fell out of Cornell.
Iowa gets a trophy and keeps streak of finalists. Seems odd to see 4th as a success for them but things looked rough mid season.
I was rooting for Van Ness but its hard not to like Valencia. Fearless attack style! He is going to be fun to watch. Made me a fan tonight.
Bottom kinda.fell out of Ohio st. They looked fierce earlier in the season.
Even bigger bottom fell out of Cornell.
Iowa gets a trophy and keeps streak of finalists. Seems odd to see 4th as a success for them but things looked rough mid season.
I was rooting for Van Ness but its hard not to like Valencia. Fearless attack style! He is going to be fun to watch. Made me a fan tonight.
This is some random guy who tried to compile coaching salaries, travel expenses, facilities. operational cost and make some half assed list. Example: How do you come up with a number for facilities? Also this number has nothing to do with NIL.
McGowan didnt run but he was constantly taking steps back while LL kept going forward. I understand no shots for LL, but McGowan was on the retreat the majority of the time. I was rooting for him but have no issue with the stall calls.
Is this right? How are we the 6th most spending program yet perform as the 34th ranked program…?? Then we got Harley hootin n hollering to pony up if u want PSU results when no one is even expecting that.
So make LL take a bad desperate shot or let McGowan stall to OT and maybe steal a win bc you don’t want the nationals decided on a stall call? The ref told McGowan to stop grabbing fingers 5 times before he hit him for stalling
He won a national title on a stall point and didn't take a shot.
I agree the Princeton kid was stalling but LL wasn't doing much either.
It's the finals...make them both wrestle.
Cochran would be a great get, a natural 197er, that was able to bump up to HWT and beat AA Yara.
Silly. He didn't attempt even a half shot. Did he even lower his level? Ridiculous. Shoot.
LL didn’t want to end up like Mendez. Vega stalled his entire match but is a national champ. Merrill was looking to do the same thing. Defensive specialists/scramblers will ruin the sport.
I dont disagree with you. But if you keep stepping backwards, you are gonna get banged. It was blatantly obvious he was not defending his position the majority of time on his feet.
....and to this point,are you saying bend the rules that are enforced for 99.99% of the year? Just because it's the finals? And you can back up and/or flee as much as you want provided your opponent is not attempting a shot? I dont like the way the match was won, but at the end of the day, it's the wrestler's job to wrestle within the rules and find a way to win within them.
The Princeton kid should have got called for more stalling calls he was reversing the whole match! That Jax Forest is a dynamo always moving and looking to score!
Is this NIL towards the wrestlers? If so, then we have our money spread out poorly. That said, there’s a huge diff between money in the program and NIL funding. Not making an excuse, but it appears we have not allocated our spending properly b/c you can’t spend that much and get those results
It seems like you are implying success is only possible at PSU. Sebastian Rivera won a 2023 World silver and a 2024 Olympic bronze while training at Rutgers!
And everyone he trained with packed up and moved on.
Look...we all know good refs have a feel for the moment.
To his credit the ref warned the PU kid multiple times. But LL wasn't doing squat either.
I am not the wrestling expert here, but have watched a ton...I dont recall many matches where a kid earns a stall without attempting a shot. In fact, you often hear the coach or commentator - in a situation where the other kid is backing up a lot - say the kid needs to shoot to earn the stall.LL never did. Not even a half baked attempt. It was weird.
Anyway, the rest of the matches were awesome and i don't feel like arguing...lol.
I will say this... if LL wore a Rutgers singlet, he is never in a million years getting the first warning, let alone the 2nd.
Congrats Donny! Seabass and Buxton too!
LL was taking ground and stalking McGown for 7 min. Reminded me of Yara running away from Gable
Maybe that's on the wrestler and not Cael so much at this point? Has not been a problem for multiple other guys.
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| 1 | Penn State | 181.5 |
| 2 | Oklahoma State | 131.0 |
| 3 | Nebraska | 100.5 |
| 4 | Iowa | 92.5 |
| 5 | Ohio State | 84.5 |
| 6 | Stanford | 67.5 |
| 7 | Michigan | 66.0 |
| 8 | Iowa State | 52.0 |
| 9 | Minnesota | 48.5 |
| 10 | NC State | 44.5 |
| 11 | Virginia Tech | 41.5 |
| 12 | Wyoming | 38.0 |
| 13 | Arizona State | 36.5 |
| 14 | Missouri | 34.0 |
| 15 | Illinois | 28.0 |
| 16 | Lehigh | 26.5 |
| 17 | Columbia | 25.0 |
| 18 | Cornell | 21.5 |
| 19 | Penn | 21.0 |
| 20 | Princeton | 20.0 |
| 21 | Indiana | 19.5 |
| 22 | Little Rock | 17.5 |
| 23 | American | 17.0 |
| 23 | West Virginia | 17.0 |
| 25 | Air Force | 16.0 |
| 26 | Pittsburgh | 13.0 |
| 27 | Rider | 12.5 |
| 28 | Navy | 11.5 |
| 29 | Purdue | 10.5 |
| 30 | Oklahoma | 10.0 |
| 31 | North Carolina | 9.5 |
| 31 | Northern Iowa | 9.5 |
| 33 | Maryland | 8.5 |
| 34 | George Mason | 7.0 |
| 34 | Rutgers | 7.0 |
| 34 | Utah Valley | 7.0 |
| 37 | Lock Haven | 6.5 |
| 37 | Wisconsin | 6.5 |
| 39 | North Dakota State | 6.0 |
| 40 | South Dakota State | 5.0 |
| 41 | Bucknell | 4.5 |
| 41 | Drexel | 4.5 |
| 43 | Oregon State | 4.0 |
| 44 | SIU Edwardsville | 3.5 |
| 45 | Army West Point | 3.0 |
| 45 | Brown | 3.0 |
| 45 | Franklin and Marshall | 3.0 |
| 45 | Northern Illinois | 3.0 |
| 45 | Ohio | 3.0 |
| 50 | Binghamton | 2.5 |
| 51 | The Citadel | 2.0 |
| 52 | Appalachian State | 1.5 |
| 52 | Buffalo | 1.5 |
| 52 | Duke | 1.5 |
| 52 | Gardner-Webb | 1.5 |
| 52 | Morgan State | 1.5 |
| 57 | Bellarmine | 1.0 |
| 57 | Chattanooga | 1.0 |
| 57 | Harvard | 1.0 |
| 57 | Kent State | 1.0 |
| 57 | Northern Colorado | 1.0 |
| 62 | Cal Poly | 0.5 |
| 62 | Central Michigan | 0.5 |
| 62 | Edinboro | 0.5 |
| 62 | Virginia | 0.5 |
| 66 | Bloomsburg | 0.0 |
| 66 | Davidson | 0.0 |
| 66 | Michigan State | 0.0 |
| 66 | Northwestern | 0.0 |
| 66 | VMI | 0.0 |
NCAA has been disempowered by their own arrogance and incompetence and the courts. That is never going to happen in the pay the athletes era. In fact what I think will happen in wrestling is that guys will now want to get to college earlier to get paid.
However, I do not disagree with the absurdity of holdbacks in middle school strictly to improve high school wrestling results.
This exactly. One moving forward, one moving back. I didn't expect LL to shoot much or at all in the first place. But he sure wasnt going to compromise himself with a bad shot when McGowan was on the retreat. He has elite training and experience and executed based on that. The aggressor is favored each and every time, unless you have an idiot ref.