2026 Southern Scuffle tournament thread
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I think that is an incomplete statement and a stretch. Shak, was the more dynamic points scorer hands down, but was also a bit injury prone and came up a bit lacking against more solid, strong and powerful competition. I have my doubts that Shak would have beat Moore and help earn us the victory over tOSU in the dual of the century.
It's pretty clear that we didn't fully know what we had in Cassar at the time. He showed flashes, but came up short of Shak in head to head and what we heard of wrestleoffs. Room familiarity is definitely something very difficult to wrap your arms around. Is anyone today saying that Desmond is really the superior wrestler to Lilledahl?
Moore was #1 in the country when Cassar took him out. Sure a 197 lb Cassar may not have been the same nimble, powerful, gorilla strong beast he was at 230, but he was pretty close. There is no doubt in my mind with the benefit of retrospect that Cassar would have AAed and might he been able to shock the world in the way he did the following year? Certainly, maybe.
He beat Gable, twice to prove it was no fluke. I am glad it worked out the way it did, since winning that dual without Nolf was one for the ages, and beating Gable and going on to win the NC for Cassar at heavy was legendary.
Most likely, if Cassar won the 197 slot, he would not have bulked up to heavy that next year, Gable wins another title easily, ends up undefeated, and probably doesn't even come back later in life to lose once again. Flo would forever be touting him as greater than Cael.
Many dominoes in this chain, much like something so innocuous as a singlet pull for Zahid vs Brooks. Had that not happened just maybe DT is still at M2 and the NLWC.
I don't have the confidence in ' he would have lost' that you do.
Except for the part where Cassar himself said he couldn't do 197 another year.
The big open question everybody ignores is: how effective would Cassar have been at making weight 2 consecutive days at B10s and especially 3 consecutive days at NCAAs? As hard as this is to believe, Cael Freaking Sanderson probably knew more than the fans are willing to give him credit for.
This is what I wanted… the Goggles CliffsNotes!
This is purely a guess, but probably not. The Scuffle is not listed on the PSU Athletics official schedule, and the PSU Wrestling account on the tweeter has not mentioned the event at all.
Best bet is to check their tweeter page tomorrow morning -- they always have a Match Day post showing video and audio options.
Looks like the little red guy vs the little green for me on floarena.
I think that is an incomplete statement and a stretch. Shak, was the more dynamic points scorer hands down, but was also a bit injury prone and came up a bit lacking against more solid, strong and powerful competition. I have my doubts that Shak would have beat Moore and help earn us the victory over tOSU in the dual of the century.
It's pretty clear that we didn't fully know what we had in Cassar at the time. He showed flashes, but came up short of Shak in head to head and what we heard of wrestleoffs. Room familiarity is definitely something very difficult to wrap your arms around. Is anyone today saying that Desmond is really the superior wrestler to Lilledahl?
Moore was #1 in the country when Cassar took him out. Sure a 197 lb Cassar may not have been the same nimble, powerful, gorilla strong beast he was at 230, but he was pretty close. There is no doubt in my mind with the benefit of retrospect that Cassar would have AAed and might he been able to shock the world in the way he did the following year? Certainly, maybe.
He beat Gable, twice to prove it was no fluke. I am glad it worked out the way it did, since winning that dual without Nolf was one for the ages, and beating Gable and going on to win the NC for Cassar at heavy was legendary.
Most likely, if Cassar won the 197 slot, he would not have bulked up to heavy that next year, Gable wins another title easily, ends up undefeated, and probably doesn't even come back later in life to lose once again. Flo would forever be touting him as greater than Cael.
Many dominoes in this chain, much like something so innocuous as a singlet pull for Zahid vs Brooks. Had that not happened just maybe DT is still at M2 and the NLWC.
I don't have the confidence in ' he would have lost' that you do.
If cassar had won the 197(2018)?. He didn't win it. He lost it to the back up 165 lb who jumped to 197. Rasheed was at 184 the next season.
Casser would have still had to go 285 in 2019. He was not beating bo at 197.
Cassar was not winning 197. He beat Moore in the dual but NCAA is a gauntlet. He was good at 197, great at 285.
Shakur probably does not beat Moore that season. If he won he would have pinned him with a headlock but probably does not win.
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Give @GregPickel some leeway here. The college football portal opened today. The BWI guys are working around the clock tracking down which current PSU players are staying, which current PSU players are entering the portal, which non-PSU players in the portal are scheduling visits to PSU. It is insane, trying to track all this down, and then report on it.
Also, as the Scuffle is not an official PSU wrestling event, PSU did not release Match Notes for it, CS was not available this week for his normal media availability, the PSU SID assigned to wrestling has not released anything on social media about PSU wrestlers and the scuffle, etc.
Seedings are out for the scuffle. They are listed on the website.
At this point the best answer I can give you is that FLO has had no reason to take any of them off the entries list. But, until weigh ins, these things are never finalized, as we found out with Ono at the Bill Farrell, for example.
In 2019 it made sense to bump Bo up (197 was ripe for bonus that year). It made sense for shak to go down to 184 instead of weighing in at 191 while eating a pop tart. If it made sense for the team Bo would have stayed at 184 in 2019. It was not until late summer that year when the rumblings began of Cassar eating the other half of Kasak's cow and dead lifting pickups in the Rec parking lot. All 3 got in the lineup, best for the team.
Not saying you’re wrong, but if we do that well, then our team of mostly backups will win the team title. How’s that for domination?
Seeds Announced for Southern Scuffle - University of Tennessee at Chattanooga Athletics
Cooper Flynn from the Chattanooga Mocs is in a stacked field at 125 in the Southern Scuffle as the seeds for each class are announced.
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My gods honest truth answer? Because I am a Penn State wrestling FAN. Short for fanatic. Which means I'm not always rational on Penn State wrestling related topics. Aside from that? The match with Mirasola notwithstanding ( we don't take much stock of Sealey pushing Duke, Desmond beating liledahl etc) Cochran looked really good up a weight when he wrestled slavikouski, who did beat mullen once before, and the MSU heavy. He seemed taller,stronger, and more capable of handling the size difference the big heavies have when compared to Mirasola....I might be crazy for this ( had to) BUT I feel like Mirasola wins the wrestle off because they're familiar with one another and he has more actual talent and isn't at a large size disadvantage vs cochran. Meawhile Cochran may actually have the higher upside at Big 10s and NCAAs THIS SEASON.Happy New Year to you too!
I'm willing to be persuaded as to why Cochran should be the favorite. Here's a hopefully reasonable question: Mullen is more accomplished at HWT -- that shouldn't be controversial by looking at their careers. And this year he beat the same Carroll who beat Mirasola. Why wouldn't he be the favorite in this field?
If the answer is: because Colbert beat him at NCAAs last year, that's a pretty good reason -- but then why wouldn't Colbert be the favorite?
It's like playing hide and seek trying to find the little red & green guys anymore.
If, any only if, Greg has time, I would like to know how many words appear in Encyclopedia Brittanica in the the 1974 edition and, only if time permits, how that compared with the 1989 digital edition.
Strongly agree. Personally think Lucas is our best HWT. Definitely goes after scoring points more. Think Cael and staff should give him a few matches against other opponents in live action with the team. Guess we’ll see.
Kind of true, but Nagao & Barr are not actually backups, they are starters coming off injury.
Well, there’s your problem. You gotta go to Flowrestling instead.
Don't click on the event click the square box to the right of the event that will take you to the original floarena
Where are Penn State wrestlers seeded for the 2026 Southern Scuffle?
Penn State is sending numerous wrestlers to the 2026 Southern Scuffle. Some of the Nittany Lions are seeded to start the tournament.
Not Greg, but I can use AI:
Word Count Comparison of Encyclopaedia Britannica (1974 vs 1989)
The 1974 edition of the Encyclopaedia Britannica had approximately 40 million words. This edition was structured into a three-part series: the Micropædia, the Macropædia, and the Propædia, allowing for a diverse range of short and long articles.In contrast, the 1989 digital edition contained around 44 million words. The digital format allowed for updates to the content and more expansive articles compared to the print editions, reflecting the evolution in the way information was presented and consumed.
Summary Comparison
| Feature | 1974 Edition | 1989 Digital Edition |
|---|---|---|
| Word Count | 40 million words | 44 million words |
| Structure | Micropædia, Macropædia, Propædia | Enhanced content with updates in digital format |
| Publication Format | Digital (CD-ROM/Online) |
The transition from the print format to a digital version allowed users to access more content and updated information more quickly, impacting the way encyclopedias were utilized in research and education. The 1989 edition not only saw an increase in word count but also represented a shift toward more interactive and easily updatable reference materials, laying the groundwork for today's online formats.
I'm expanding this thread to be the tournament thread. Please use this thread for all pre-tournament, in-tournament, and post-tournament discussion of the Southern Scuffle.
I'm reffing on Saturday, and going to the Eagles game on Sunday, so I'm pretty much out for PBP.
Hopefully, several of you will step forward and provide info on upcoming matches involving PSU wrestlers, mat assignments for upcoming matches involving PSU wrestlers, PBP of matches involving PSU wrestlers, and anything else that should be discussed.
I'm reffing on Saturday, and going to the Eagles game on Sunday, so I'm pretty much out for PBP.
Hopefully, several of you will step forward and provide info on upcoming matches involving PSU wrestlers, mat assignments for upcoming matches involving PSU wrestlers, PBP of matches involving PSU wrestlers, and anything else that should be discussed.
I tried to post this exact video....but it ended up being a disaster. Public Service Warning: Do not type "Beat Meat Video" on any internet service......especially at the library.Good enough for Rocky!
Cassar would have won the 2018 197 bracket, you won't change my mind about that. I truly believe his career has shown he is a "lights shine bright, I do my best" kind of wrestler
1. His 2019 B1G and NCAA tournament, beating Gable twice, avenging his loss to Derek White by major
2. The Moore win which everyone knows about
3. People forget before the Moore win, Cassar saved our dual streak the first time by beating Lehigh's 197, he loses that, Nevills basically has to pin Wood to save the streak
4. Cassar almost prevented the dual streak from being broken the first time by going for the pinfall against Tanner Hall of ASU (and almost getting it) before gassing himself out from that effort and just winning by decision
All that being said, the coaches also made the right decision no matter what because Shak:
1. Won the final wrestleoff (per Cassar's own words on Clash of Combat)
2. Was a pinning machine, compared to Cassar who mostly was winning by decision (with him being more of a takedown artist and takedowns only being 2 points back then)
3. Outplaced Cassar at the scuffle (pinning 5 people actually)
4. Cassar showed he was just as prone to bad losses (Hoffman and Holschlag)
1. His 2019 B1G and NCAA tournament, beating Gable twice, avenging his loss to Derek White by major
2. The Moore win which everyone knows about
3. People forget before the Moore win, Cassar saved our dual streak the first time by beating Lehigh's 197, he loses that, Nevills basically has to pin Wood to save the streak
4. Cassar almost prevented the dual streak from being broken the first time by going for the pinfall against Tanner Hall of ASU (and almost getting it) before gassing himself out from that effort and just winning by decision
All that being said, the coaches also made the right decision no matter what because Shak:
1. Won the final wrestleoff (per Cassar's own words on Clash of Combat)
2. Was a pinning machine, compared to Cassar who mostly was winning by decision (with him being more of a takedown artist and takedowns only being 2 points back then)
3. Outplaced Cassar at the scuffle (pinning 5 people actually)
4. Cassar showed he was just as prone to bad losses (Hoffman and Holschlag)
To paraphrase Princess Leia, “help me slipperyPete, you’re our only hope”.
I thought for half a second he had Hall stuck in that dual. Cesar is on of my favorites, loved watching him blast double 284.5 pound Jennings from NW.