2027 Recruiting Thread

Marshall2323

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You feel better now? Franklin’s gone buddy. Time to move on. People like you refuse to move on. You look stupid in doing so.
Yes, let's get back to recruiting. Checking the rivals final team stats, PSU is recruiting worse than I thought.
2022-16 blue chips average rating 90.05
2023-15 blue chips average rating 91.04
2024- 14 blue chips average rating 90.77
2025- 13 blue chips average rating 91.15 average national ranking 9th (blue chips=5 and 4 stars)

2027-7 blue chips average rating 88.23 national rank 21

Talk about looking stupid.
 

Marshall2323

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Fortunately PSU does have difference makers on offense: Becht @ QB, Brahmer & Rapplyea @ TE. In addition there are three capable RBs. If the WR room improves then the offense will be fine. I understand that is a big if but I expect improvement over last year's PSU WR results. I'm taking an optimistic approach.
PSU fields an experienced team. I've seen estimates that its roster ranks 10th in the nation in terms of games started.
In addition, the most difficult games on the schedule are against teams that will likely lose at least 3 games.
The floor should be 9 wins. The concern is 2027 and beyond.
 

Marshall2323

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Cooper and Neal were big for PSU to get for the defense. They are players. Bacon is as well. The offensive guys they brought with them from ISU are good also. I think this year should be good. I don’t know going forward after that, however, nobody does anywhere. There aren’t any rules right now.
Agree, but recruiting like you plan to beat Ohio State and Oregon would help.
 
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PSU4U

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Definitely a developmental piece that probably cost us little to nothing. If he works out three or four years down the road, it was a great deal. Worst case scenario, we can now claim our recruiting territory has expanded to Sweden.
The kid is quite athletic as heck, he probably has the ability to play TE too.

I like this pick up and because of his athleticism he may show up a year or so earlier than we would otherwise think.

I read he plays this year at a New England school, so it's really about him learning football on this side of pond. By all accounts he's an intelligent fellow so that shouldn't take forever.

We will see this fall how he does against kids who have been playing the game since Pee Wee's and that might give us a better indication of his trajectory.
 

BobPSU92

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Cooper and Neal were big for PSU to get for the defense. They are players. Bacon is as well. The offensive guys they brought with them from ISU are good also. I think this year should be good. I don’t know going forward after that, however, nobody does anywhere. There aren’t any rules right now.

Everything is better with Bacon.
 

LMTLION

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The kid is quite athletic as heck, he probably has the ability to play TE too.

I like this pick up and because of his athleticism he may show up a year or so earlier than we would otherwise think.

I read he plays this year at a New England school, so it's really about him learning football on this side of pond. By all accounts he's an intelligent fellow so that shouldn't take forever.

We will see this fall how he does against kids who have been playing the game since Pee Wee's and that might give us a better indication of his trajectory.
Yeah, per one of the podcasts he is playing at an upper level CT prep school against upper level talent this year. I agree with you that we’ll get a better idea about his talents. He’s obviously a bit raw, but he runs a very impressive 4.9 40 at 290 pounds. I think the staff made a good decision bringing him on as a developmental prospect with very little risk.
 

psuro

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Everything is better with Bacon.

Bacon flavored lattes?

Spewing Tyler Perry GIF by Nickelodeon
 
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DaytonRickster

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I never said that. Those 3 guys were important additions in positions of need. That's why I'm predicting 9-3 and a decent bowl game. I just don't think they're the kind of difference makers that will make us contenders to win the BiG.
Understand your POV. Thanks.
 

rigi19041

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I never said that. Those 3 guys were important additions in positions of need. That's why I'm predicting 9-3 and a decent bowl game. I just don't think they're the kind of difference makers that will make us contenders to win the BiG.


Are you predicting any wins vs ranked teams?

Tge main thing that changed is fans lowered their expectations.
 
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Yeah, per one of the podcasts he is playing at an upper level CT prep school against upper level talent this year. I agree with you that we’ll get a better idea about his talents. He’s obviously a bit raw, but he runs a very impressive 4.9 40 at 290 pounds. I think the staff made a good decision bringing him on as a developmental prospect with very little risk.
But how does CT prep competition compare to CT catholic school competition. Asking for a friend.
 

bdgan

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Are you predicting any wins vs ranked teams?

Tge main thing that changed is fans lowered their expectations.
The biggest challenges on paper are USC, Michigan, and Washington. It would be easy to predict that we lose those three but win the other 9 games. My guess is that we win one of those games but lose to somebody like NW or Wisc.

PSU would have been in a major rebuilding year even if Franklin had stayed. We would have lost Allar, Singleton, Allen, Pena, and 3 OL on offense. We were also losing key players like Sutton, Durant, and Wheatley on defense. We might have been looking at 9-3 or 8-4 anyway. The problem is we also lost a lot of players like Grunk, Campbell, Reynolds, and Rucci after Franklin was fired. We lost the entire high school recruiting class of 2026. I think the cupboard was more bare than it was after the Sandusky sanctions. Campbell propped it up by signing an amazing 24 kids from Iowa State. Fortunately a few of them are experienced and highly rated at positions of need. Unfortunately a lot of the more highly rated players will be in their last year of eligibility and our 2026 & 2027 high school recruiting is extremely unimpressive. I know we have the portal but my expectations are quite low for the next few years.
 
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rigi19041

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The biggest challenges on paper are USC, Michigan, and Washington. It would be easy to predict that we lose those three but win the other 9 games. My guess is that we win one of those games but lose to somebody like NW or Wisc.

PSU would have been in a major rebuilding year even if Franklin had stayed. We would have lost Allar, Singleton, Allen, Pena, and 3 OL on offense. We were also losing key players like Sutton, Durant, and Wheatley on defense. We might have been looking at 9-3 or 8-4 anyway. The problem is we also lost a lot of players like Grunk, Campbell, Reynolds, and Rucci after Franklin was fired. We lost the entire high school recruiting class of 2026. I think the cupboard was more bare than it was after the Sandusky sanctions. Campbell propped it up by signing an amazing 24 kids from Iowa State. Fortunately a few of them are experienced and highly rated at positions of need. Unfortunately a lot of the more highly rated players will be in their last year of eligibility and our 2026 & 2027 high school recruiting is extremely unimpressive. I know we have the portal but my expectations are quite low for the next few years.

Only one team ahead of psu in early rankings.
 
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The biggest challenges on paper are USC, Michigan, and Washington. It would be easy to predict that we lose those three but win the other 9 games. My guess is that we win one of those games but lose to somebody like NW or Wisc.

PSU would have been in a major rebuilding year even if Franklin had stayed. We would have lost Allar, Singleton, Allen, Pena, and 3 OL on offense. We were also losing key players like Sutton, Durant, and Wheatley on defense. We might have been looking at 9-3 or 8-4 anyway. The problem is we also lost a lot of players like Grunk, Campbell, Reynolds, and Rucci after Franklin was fired. We lost the entire high school recruiting class of 2026. I think the cupboard was more bare than it was after the Sandusky sanctions. Campbell propped it up by signing an amazing 24 kids from Iowa State. Fortunately a few of them are experienced and highly rated at positions of need. Unfortunately a lot of the more highly rated players will be in their last year of eligibility and our 2026 & 2027 high school recruiting is extremely unimpressive. I know we have the portal but my expectations are quite low for the next few years.
I noted this in a previous message but the new 5-for-5 rule means a lot of those upperclassmen may stick around for a 5th year. High school recruiting has never mattered less than right now. Don’t get me wrong, it matters, but when you have a roster cap and now all players get a 5th year, it means high school clases for all schools going forward will likely become smaller and more targeted…except for the colleges planning on being a football mill and going with quantity over quality and processing out players that don’t rise in their first year.
 

bdgan

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What big wins are you predicting?
I already answered that. USC, Michigan, and Washington are ranked ahead of us in most polls. I think we'll win one of those games but also lose to somebody ranked lower (Maybe Wisconsin or Northwestern). Obviously just a guess.

Althon's preseason All BiG team has ZERO PSU players. OSU has 5, Indy has 7, Oregon has 6. Rutgers has 2.

Althon's preseason All BiG 1st through 4th teams players include Oregon 19, OSU 16, Indy 15, Michigan 10. PSU has 8.

PSU players on 2nd Team: Brahmer, Bacon, Neal
PSU players on 3rd team: Hansen, Donkoh, Rojas, Cooper
PSU players on 4th team: Sowell

I think PSU has a solid team but lacks dominant playmakers. Most polls predict PSU to be the 6th-8th best team in the BiG behind OSU, Oregon, Indy, USC, and Michigan and possibly behind Washington & Nebraska. The schedule is in our favor but it's going to be difficult to make the playoffs even if we finish 10-2. We would almost have to beat Michigan on the road.
 

rigi19041

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I already answered that. USC, Michigan, and Washington are ranked ahead of us in most polls. I think we'll win one of those games but also lose to somebody ranked lower (Maybe Wisconsin or Northwestern). Obviously just a guess.

Althon's preseason All BiG team has ZERO PSU players. OSU has 5, Indy has 7, Oregon has 6. Rutgers has 2.

Althon's preseason All BiG 1st through 4th teams players include Oregon 19, OSU 16, Indy 15, Michigan 10. PSU has 8.

PSU players on 2nd Team: Brahmer, Bacon, Neal
PSU players on 3rd team: Hansen, Donkoh, Rojas, Cooper
PSU players on 4th team: Sowell

I think PSU has a solid team but lacks dominant playmakers. Most polls predict PSU to be the 6th-8th best team in the BiG behind OSU, Oregon, Indy, USC, and Michigan and possibly behind Washington & Nebraska. The schedule is in our favor but it's going to be difficult to make the playoffs even if we finish 10-2. We would almost have to beat Michigan on the road.


Usc and Washington don't count as big wins. Let's be consistent. Those wins were not big wins the last 13 years.
 

Psurosco

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I noted this in a previous message but the new 5-for-5 rule means a lot of those upperclassmen may stick around for a 5th year. High school recruiting has never mattered less than right now. Don’t get me wrong, it matters, but when you have a roster cap and now all players get a 5th year, it means high school clases for all schools going forward will likely become smaller and more targeted…except for the colleges planning on being a football mill and going with quantity over quality and processing out players that don’t rise in their first year.
I recently read an article on the potential impact of 5 for 5 on basketball recruiting. Probably won't impact football as much due to larger rosters but can expect some fallout.

But, follow me here, because of the new five-for-five rule, every freshman next season can be a sophomore the following season just like every sophomore next season can be a junior the following season just like every junior next season can be a senior the following season just like every senior next season can be a so-called super-senior the following season.

So, realistically, how many Division I spots will open?
 

LB99

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PSUForever

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Nonsense. Indiana doesn’t recruit high ranked players. They go after portal three stars and Cig coaches then up. HS recruiting doesn’t matter! C’mon Bob. Don’t you read this board? FFS.
Watch out, now Cig is showing he can get a 5 star guy out of high school. Oh, I forgot, Indiana was an anomaly the last two years and will go back to being a B10 doormat.
 
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bdgan

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Kind of like playoff wins vs Smu and Boise?
I guess it's how you define a big win. Those were certainly great wins but I wouldn't call them "signature wins" against big name teams like Michigan, USC, and Washington. Remember in 2023 Michigan finished #1 and Washington finished #2.

PSU was a clear favorite over both SMU & Boise. I don't think that will be the case vs USC, Michigan, and Washington.
 

LB99

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I guess it's how you define a big win. Those were certainly great wins but I wouldn't call them "signature wins" against big name teams like Michigan, USC, and Washington. Remember in 2023 Michigan finished #1 and Washington finished #2.

PSU was a clear favorite over both SMU & Boise. I don't think that will be the case vs USC, Michigan, and Washington.
2024 win on the road at USC was a big win after being down 20-6 at halftime and not looking like it was even going to be a game. Clutch game by Allar, Fleming, and Warren. It would be nice to beat them again in what we all assume will be the Whiteout.
 

bdgan

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2024 win on the road at USC was a big win after being down 20-6 at halftime and not looking like it was even going to be a game. Clutch game by Allar, Fleming, and Warren. It would be nice to beat them again in what we all assume will be the Whiteout.
Again it depends on what you call a big game. USC is a big name in college football but that team finished 7-6. I guess you could call beating Minnesota on Luke Reynolds' special teams play a big win too.

I consider PSU's 2016 win over #2 OSU a big win. It would have been a big win if PSU hadn't crapped the bed in the 4th qtr vs Notre Dame in 2024. Those back to back 1 pt losses to OSU would have been big wins. I think it has to be a top 10 if not a top 5 opponent to consider it a big win.
 

LB99

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Again it depends on what you call a big game. USC is a big name in college football but that team finished 7-6. I guess you could call beating Minnesota on Luke Reynolds' special teams play a big win too.

I consider PSU's 2016 win over #2 OSU a big win. It would have been a big win if PSU hadn't crapped the bed in the 4th qtr vs Notre Dame in 2024. Those back to back 1 pt losses to OSU would have been big wins. I think it has to be a top 10 if not a top 5 opponent to consider it a big win.
Disagree on it having to be a top 5-10 opponent. USC and Minny were gut check conference games on the road. Those games can, and frequently do, go either way, especially when you have dug yourself the hole PSU did at USC. That was a big win.
 

rigi19041

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I guess it's how you define a big win. Those were certainly great wins but I wouldn't call them "signature wins" against big name teams like Michigan, USC, and Washington. Remember in 2023 Michigan finished #1 and Washington finished #2.

PSU was a clear favorite over both SMU & Boise. I don't think that will be the case vs USC, Michigan, and Washington.


Do you only count wins as an underdog? The 409 stickers would be well under 100.
 

psuno1

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Again it depends on what you call a big game. USC is a big name in college football but that team finished 7-6. I guess you could call beating Minnesota on Luke Reynolds' special teams play a big win too.

I consider PSU's 2016 win over #2 OSU a big win. It would have been a big win if PSU hadn't crapped the bed in the 4th qtr vs Notre Dame in 2024. Those back to back 1 pt losses to OSU would have been big wins. I think it has to be a top 10 if not a top 5 opponent to consider it a big win.
Both USC and Minny were big win's but not Top 5, 10,15, 20, 25 wins. lose either game PSU is not in the Playoff.
 

PSUForever

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2024 win on the road at USC was a big win after being down 20-6 at halftime and not looking like it was even going to be a game. Clutch game by Allar, Fleming, and Warren. It would be nice to beat them again in what we all assume will be the Whiteout.
Yeah we can give Jimmy credit for that one vs USC in '24 as a big win being on the road. Thankfully he had Warren to catch 17 balls.

I don't give him credit for beating UDub at home in '24 as a big win as they were 0-5 in conference on the road that year (6-7 overall). Nor SMU nor Boise State. His jock sniffers can whine all they want.