3rd and 57 Game Thread

Bullldawg78

All-Conference
Aug 30, 2018
1,680
1,317
113
But if he had missed we would have been bitching like heck for not getting a few more yards.
Disagree, that's football, you would have been within the kickers range and misses happen but to not give the kicker the chance to 17 up is completely unacceptable because you have no situational awareness!
 

L4Dawg

All-American
Oct 27, 2016
10,266
7,120
113
Disagree, that's football, you would have been within the kickers range and misses happen but to not give the kicker the chance to 17 up is completely unacceptable because you have no situational awareness!
You know the range they had on the field was his long for the year. Feel confident about a repeat?
 

L4Dawg

All-American
Oct 27, 2016
10,266
7,120
113
No one would be bitching about Lebby if the kicker missed a field goal, other than the fact it should not have come down to that to start with. When you are in that spot you don’t allow this to even have a chance of happening. It’s brain dead coaching.
Lol, now I may not be a smart man, but this board WILL *****. Even a retarded idiot like me knows that. 😂😂😂😂😂
 

onewoof

Heisman
Mar 4, 2008
14,886
12,995
113
To have Fat Albert drop back in coverage and grab your pass... Plus all the multitude of mistakes prior to that point. You have to try really hard to find that many creative ways to lose.
 

Baddog11

All-Conference
Aug 28, 2013
3,226
2,579
113
Exactly, the play before that . Why would you run it up the middle to place the ball in the middle for the kicker, use your last timeout , and then do that?
 
  • Like
Reactions: TimberBeast
Dec 9, 2018
746
640
93
Because that was not a gimme FG by any means, and our kicker has been a bit shaken lately. I understand passing, you damn sure couldn’t run it. by the way, had he hit the pass, it might have scored. We had a guy wide open. Shapen had a great game, and had a terrible game. That kind of sums it up.
The line of scrimmage was the 29 if I am not mistaken. Practically every college kicker can make a 46 yard field goal.

edit to add: I went back and looked at the replay. Line of scrimmage was indeed on the 29. Well within our kickers range.
 
Last edited:

Bullldawg78

All-Conference
Aug 30, 2018
1,680
1,317
113
He hasn’t been great lately. I thought we needed 10 more yards. That last play call, had it been executed, was wide open. We might have got a TD.
Why were we throwing in that situation is the question. The answer is our amateur hour glorified OC Heas coach getting OJT made the wrong call.
 

L4Dawg

All-American
Oct 27, 2016
10,266
7,120
113
We might have but shapen was the one throwing it
True that, but we wouldnt have even been close without him. It is what it is. We were as bad as we have ever been last year…and that’s saying a heck of a lot. The improvement is actually amazing this year. We were in such. dEEP hole.
 
Sep 8, 2008
4,172
943
113
He hasn’t been great lately. I thought we needed 10 more yards. That last play call, had it been executed, was wide open. We might have got a TD.
Man, you are deluding yourself. We didn't need a TD, we needed a FG. Run the ball, and maybe that breaks for a TD. But if you are gonna pass it, you make sure your QB knows he only throws that if there is NO CHANCE of it getting intercepted. You make sure your QB knows it has to be WIDE *** OPEN, and quick enough to not risk a sack, but NO MATTER WHAT throw the ball away if you must.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MSUGUY

anon1768925248

Heisman
Oct 27, 2022
6,836
15,353
113
Yet the play was wide open. It might have got a TD, it was that open. Shapen just screwed up.
When you have a quarterback that you recruited that screws up as much as Shapen does, you don’t give him the opportunity to do so in the biggest moment of the game when you are in field goal range.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TimberBeast

L4Dawg

All-American
Oct 27, 2016
10,266
7,120
113
Man, you are deluding yourself. We didn't need a TD, we needed a FG. Run the ball, and maybe that breaks for a TD. But if you are gonna pass it, you make sure your QB knows he only throws that if there is NO CHANCE of it getting intercepted. You make sure your QB knows it has to be WIDE *** OPEN, and quick enough to not risk a sack, but NO MATTER WHAT throw the ball away if you must.
Look at the low level view from behind Shapen if you can find it. He didn’t see the UF guy, and the play was wide open, down the sideline, exactly as it was drawn up., for possibly a TD. The big ole guy from UF made a great play. We made what turned out to be a bad one. Hindsight is 20/20. I’ve been around the block enough to recognize it for what it was. If you want to get on the coach, those four straight QB runs would be a better target. Score there, even a FG, and it’s a different game.
 
Sep 8, 2008
4,172
943
113
Look at the low level view from behind Shapen if you can find it. He didn’t see the UF guy, and the play was wide open, down the sideline, exactly as it was drawn up., for possibly a TD. The big ole guy from UF made a great play. We made what turned out to be a bad one. Hindsight is 20/20. I’ve been around the block enough to recognize it for what it was. If you want to get on the coach, those four straight QB runs would be a better target. Score there, even a FG, and it’s a different game.
You are in game-winning FG range, and you throw it over the middle? Pass could be tipped and intercepted, or could have been a perfect pass only to have our guy have it go off his hands and get intercepted.


The surest thing we had at that point was a very makable FG, with as close to zero risk as we could have hoped for. No good reason to try something more risky at that point.
 
  • Like
Reactions: DocHolliday.sixpack

onewoof

Heisman
Mar 4, 2008
14,886
12,995
113
Look at the low level view from behind Shapen if you can find it. He didn’t see the UF guy, and the play was wide open, down the sideline, exactly as it was drawn up., for possibly a TD. The big ole guy from UF made a great play. We made what turned out to be a bad one. Hindsight is 20/20. I’ve been around the block enough to recognize it for what it was. If you want to get on the coach, those four straight QB runs would be a better target. Score there, even a FG, and it’s a different game.
1000005144.gif
He may have gotten hit throwing it. Needed to go to the fade route on an early throw. Fat guy goes right to where it's thrown though. So that was already known by the game film.
 
Last edited:

TilloDwg

Senior
Aug 25, 2012
396
417
53
I think I listened or read most postgame Lebby commentary, and I did not hear him take any blame or apologize for that atrocious mismanagement in the last minute. That offends me about as much as the result.
 

Irondawg

Senior
Dec 2, 2007
2,894
553
113
You are in game-winning FG range, and you throw it over the middle? Pass could be tipped and intercepted, or could have been a perfect pass only to have our guy have it go off his hands and get intercepted.


The surest thing we had at that point was a very makable FG, with as close to zero risk as we could have hoped for. No good reason to try something more risky at that point.
I was more worried about Shapen taking a 7 yard sack
 

Perd Hapley

All-American
Sep 30, 2022
5,803
6,856
113
What system? Explain it.
I don’t have to explain it. You’re the one saying it sucks. How about you tell us why it wouldn’t work?

And that was pre NIL and instant transfer portal era.
OK. In the post-NIL / portal era he was in the national semifinals last year. Any other brain busters?

Not to mention he also had Jordan Rogers in his short time there.

Legit LOL. Jordan Rodgers??? You mean the guy with a 56% career completion % and career passer rating of 128? The guy who is more famous for literally 3 other things (being Aaron Rodgers brother, being on The Bachelorette, and being a commentator) than he was for being an SEC QB?

Jordan Rodgers was hot garbage. And Franklin still went 5-3 with him in the SEC. At Vandy. That only further proves my point. For reference, Shapen has a 65% career completion percentage, and career passer rating of 143. Will Rogers was 69% / 139.
 

bulldoghair

All-Conference
Jul 9, 2013
2,463
1,939
108
I don’t have to explain it. You’re the one saying it sucks. How about you tell us why it wouldn’t work?


OK. In the post-NIL / portal era he was in the national semifinals last year. Any other brain busters?
1. Generic.

2. That was at Penn State! Lol Even Joe Moorehead was phenomenal there.
 

TPB314

All-Conference
Sep 9, 2003
1,506
2,686
113
Because that was not a gimme FG by any means, and our kicker has been a bit shaken lately. I understand passing, you damn sure couldn’t run it. by the way, had he hit the pass, it might have scored. We had a guy wide open. Shapen had a great game, and had a terrible game. That kind of sums it up.
Yikes. There is absolutely NO reason to attempt a forward pass at that point. Bless your heart.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MSUGUY

MSUGUY

Junior
Oct 11, 2020
414
274
63
To have Fat Albert drop back in coverage and grab your pass... Plus all the multitude of mistakes prior to that point. You have to try really hard to find that many creative ways to lose.
I loved Fat Albert, wait wasn’t he Bill Crosby?
 

MSUGUY

Junior
Oct 11, 2020
414
274
63
Why were we throwing in that situation is the question. The answer is our amateur hour glorified OC Heas coach getting OJT made the wrong call.
Because inexplicably we took our last time out. I think Lebby must have thought he had another time out:
 
  • Like
Reactions: TPB314

TPB314

All-Conference
Sep 9, 2003
1,506
2,686
113
I didn’t think you would want to acknowledge that…and not surprised by what you seem to think is an insult. 😂😂😂😂
You’re literally too dumb to insult.
If you think we should have thrown on that down, I can’t help you. We lost because Lebby has a special needs IQ. Anyone with half of a brain realizes it…but, keep defending him. You’re outing yourself as someone on the spectrum.
 

L4Dawg

All-American
Oct 27, 2016
10,266
7,120
113
You’re literally too dumb to insult.
If you think we should have thrown on that down, I can’t help you. We lost because Lebby has a special needs IQ. Anyone with half of a brain realizes it…but, keep defending him. You’re outing yourself as someone on the spectrum.
Watch the video. If we had executed that’s a TD. Go home Reb.
 

Perd Hapley

All-American
Sep 30, 2022
5,803
6,856
113
Watch the video. If we had executed that’s a TD. Go home Reb.
We were down by 2. Just stop. I can absolutely assure you we weren’t even trying for a TD. And if somehow we were trying to throw a 30 yard TD pass instead of centering the ball for a game winning FG, that’s about the only thing that could have made that disastrous decision even worse.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Dawgg and TPB314

L4Dawg

All-American
Oct 27, 2016
10,266
7,120
113
We were down by 2. Just stop. I can absolutely assure you we weren’t even trying for a TD. And if somehow we were trying to throw a 30 yard TD pass instead of centering the ball for a game winning FG, that’s about the only thing that could have made that disastrous decision even worse.
Look at the damn video. Use your own eyes. It was there and that was the direction of the pass.