Well you have clearly drawn the conclusion that it was unjustified murder in this instance, have you not?
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Well you have clearly drawn the conclusion that it was unjustified murder in this instance, have you not?
I can't talk about any of this. I don't know enough about it or look into it to be honest, I live in an upperclass white neighborhood and I've had a run-in with a police officer two times when I was in college and they were generally nice to me. All I was commenting on was the video that I saw that to me looked like a guy was killed for no reason. I really don't see what you guys are defending, I mean you are basically defending the cops rights over your own - its kind of self defeating IMO. I mean could the cops have beat the living **** out of Derek Willis in that video where he was passed out beside a car? Ya probably. Would some of you have justified it? Ya probably, but it would have been unnecessary. I mean did they really need to shoot the guy 5 times or whatever it was? Seems to me that should be the absolute last resort, not the resort at the end of a 45 second video, the man was on the ground for 30 damn seconds before he pulled the gun, and another 10 seconds before he fired the gun. I guess we'll just agree to disagree.
That's not accurate. It register every single time someone talks about "whitey" holding the black man down, or any other racial disparity. Blacks kill each other like it's a game of ultimate survivor and nothing is said in the black community. White cop kills black criminal and "oh the humanity!"
Don't know many people that would argue with that statement.
Did you draw a conclusion on the event without all the facts? Yes or No?
yeah they like it when their children are shot by other black people. it's fun
what i said is entirely accurate; you didn't even try to refute it
You must be one of those people that argues with the above statement. Murder is murder is murder. I do not care about the circumstances. There are no stipulations for me. Did they murder him? Yes. Those are all the facts I need and the only fact Im going on here.
Thank your for clarifying. I'm sure your outrage would have been just as it is had it been one or both of the cops gunned down. Thank you for being such a champion of all life.
The stats for white-on-white murder and black-on-black murder are almost identical. You guys need to find a new horse to beat.
1. Laquan McDonald (below). Trayvon was portrayed as a 12 year old.
2. I have been stopped multiple times by cops for suspicious behavior when I was in college. I'm not black. Guess what? I didn't try to fight a cop nor did I have a gun.
3. Trayvon Martin had been suspended from school and had a backpack full of women's jewelry and a burglarizing tool in it. He wasn't some innocent kid.
4. You haven't seen the footage of Tamir Rice playing gangster and making his toy gun look like a real one?
What? One group is 63 percent. The other is 12 percent of the population yet commit over half of the murders in our country.
When those guys in Richmond gunned down Officer Ellis, I donated to his fund. I also prayed for his family (sent the prayers to whoever they believe in). That is just as heinous as this event.
I liked for the second picture and only the second picture , I would have issued a fraction like if they coded for it .same ol ****, different day. Can't wait to read all of this one.
They sure as hell don't do anything to stop it.
What exactly didn't I try to refute? The fact that no matter what statistics, logic, common sense says that you will ALWAYS blame whites for black on black crime and the cop will always be the criminal in your eyes?
I'm completely confused by you. So to you it isn't a matter of cop vs criminal, it's whoever pulled the trigger is guilty no matter what?
what have you and s & c done to stop it?
nothing. you only feign concern in defense of killer pigs
that's the point
The fact you guys can, with a straight face, watch that video and say it was justified, shows what POS you are. Don't even bother going to church, you can't be helped. It has been proven over and over again that black people are profiled, harassed, and killed disproportionately more than any other group.
The callousness just furthers the narrative of how you all don't even think of black people as humans. Evidently 'resisting arrest' while being on the ground and sandwiched between two cops is more than enough justification to point blank kill someone.
I have no idea what type of black person you all hang around with (my guess is none) but my friends are not thugs or gang members or prone to violence. And I've seen first hand their treatment by cops and others. They sure aren't getting high fived on the street while they are walking to their office jobs. I guess that's why crap like this bothers me.
The callousness just furthers the narrative of how you all don't even think of black people as humans. Evidently 'resisting arrest' while being on the ground and sandwiched between two cops is more than enough justification to point blank kill someone.
I have no idea what type of black person you all hang around with (my guess is none) but my friends are not thugs or gang members or prone to violence. And I've seen first hand their treatment by cops and others. They sure aren't getting high fived on the street while they are walking to their office jobs. I guess that's why crap like this bothers me.
1. Laquan McDonald (below). Trayvon was portrayed as a 12 year old.
2. I have been stopped multiple times by cops for suspicious behavior when I was in college. I'm not black. Guess what? I didn't try to fight a cop nor did I have a gun.
3. Trayvon Martin had been suspended from school and had a backpack full of women's jewelry and a burglarizing tool in it. He wasn't some innocent kid.
4. You haven't seen the footage of Tamir Rice playing gangster and making his toy gun look like a real one?
1. All media reports stated Laquan was 17 in this photot. The age he died.
2. I didn't fight or draw a gun either. So what's your point?
3. What does Trayvon getting suspended have to do with being stalked?! He deserved to die because he wasn't a good boy?
4. He was 12 years old and they shot him before he could stand up!
You are absurd sir.
At some point its in your best interest to say Toby . Holding court on the street is not going to be tolerated . You go ahead and comply with the arrest and argue in court , arguing and resisting in the street has proven to produce bad outcomes . The people who do this are the source of the problem . The bottom line is they don't like the police or laws and try to make a scene because they want it their way .
oh look marc maggard's sock puppet bragging about his own gutlessness
i tore an inane basketball opinion of yours to pieces, so you put me on ignore--but still take lame *** shots
then you appear in threads like this, pretending not to have an opinion. you don't even have the balls to be a internet racist
i tore an inane basketball opinion of yours to pieces, so you put me on ignore--but still take lame *** shots
then you appear in threads like this, pretending not to have an opinion. you don't even have the balls to be a internet racist
same can be said about those who takes the unverified aspects of this story & declare the cops racist executioners......and thus all cops are racist executioners
Fixed it for you guy.
Also...nobody has said they were justified that I have read. What they have said is that there is no way to know one way or the other based only off that video where you cannot see if he reach for his gun or not.
If you resist arrest AND reach for a gun then you deserve what you get.
If you resist arrest and DO NOT reach for a gun then you should never be shot.
That video shows nothing for 100% proof.
Whitey isn't out to get anyone. Some groups need to realize that their own people are killing themselves.
Ahhh...we have actually offered suggestions. So you think it should be "whiteys" place to go into a black community and fix their problems?
If cops are "killer pigs", what term do you use for those gunning down each other in cities like Chicago?
This should be interesting.
Ole dad of the year owed nearly $25,000 in child support, was a pedophile/sex offender and a criminal waving a gun (felons can't have guns) and what do you know? The media plays it up like he's a big family man.
The black community always picks the worst people to get behind with crap like this...
The black community always picks the worst people to get behind with crap like this...
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@EdHochuli'sTriceps, you asked what I and another were doing to fix the issues in black urban communities. What is your fix for the problems in those communities? Serious question.
Unreal. You guys can't even understand empathy. The cops killed this man. Quite possibly in cold blood. That is an issue. If the cops approach this man and he fired on the cops killing one or both of them it would be just the same.
The family picture of him with his ex wife and kids by the media is the same ol' shat they do to try and portray all of these civil rights gold mines as model citizens. I've said it before that nobody deserves to be shot if they honestly do not attempt to kill an officer, but if you resist arrest and go for a weapon then you deserve what you get. That video doesn't show either 100%, but they portray this guy as a family man when he owes $25,000 in child support.
Could you see for a 100% fact that the dude did not get a hand on his gun just from the video? I have no clue if he did or didn't because you can't see, but IF he did grab his gun the cops were justified in shooting him. If he did not then they are murderers. Thing is...you have no FU%#ING clue if he did or didnt, but you act like you do.
The cops were absolutely over the line shooting him 7 times. But let's not act like this man was a saint. Why resist arrest? This only makes cops more angry and on edge. Even if you feel you did nothing wrong, go to the station and then settle the thing in a court of law. I know cops get a bad wrap, but I've never once seen a cop tackle and arrest someone for absolutely no reason. Abide by the law and respect law enforcement and you don't have to worry about being arrested or shot. It's worked for me my whole life. People should give it a try.
I agree with you. The only thing we disagree on is I am waiting for all the facts before making a decision on if it was justified or not. Yes loss of life is pointless, but in most cases both sides share some of the blame...no matter what race, religion, or gender.
I could have been reading that article incorrectly, but from what it said it said 25% of people killed by police were black and 50% were white. White people compromise 63% of the population and black people 12% so it doesn't seem to contradict my previous statement unfortunately. I do have to tell you however that the website that was on was pretty terrible with regards to objectivity. Seemed extremely bias and was filled with sayings like "far left liberals" in this really condescending tone, really don't know why anyone would want to get their "news" from someplace so slanted.
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