It most 4-2-5 defenses, you still play with a NT.
Another DT N. Pitt transfer
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I always remind myself the audience for those press conferences includes the players. Some coaches espouse the "if you believe you can or you believe you can'tn you're right". Unfortunately sometimes your coach can pump you up to do something but you really can't. As for what he truly believes, remember he fired a coach for saying we needed better players.
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People will tell you we need speed so we need smaller guys. That is a false dichotomy. What ever happened to big AND fast? That is what good teams prefer. If you have to choose it means you are poor.
Understood l. Im just saying we don't need a 330 pound NT.
I prefer quick athletes in a 4 man front.
Im not coaching so what does it really matter...
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I get it, I was just saying that there is still a need for a bigger dude to clog the middle in that A gap. Agree doesn't necessarily need to be 330 but it can't be 275.
And listed weights often don’t reflect accurately what those guys weigh during the season.
Parrot played a little in the bowl game. He’s at 330 now.
And apparently the conversation about future playing time went so well that he entered the portal and is now back on the team. I am not sure he is the answer at NT, but what do I know.
I just want us to look like we have some idea of what we are doing. For the most part under Tony White, we accomplished that goal. Definitely went away the last four games.
Only made me think of him because he was a Pitt DT too, but Aaron Donald was 6'1" 280lbs.
Obviously I'm not saying hes Aaron Donald, but people get too hung up on needing a fat *** Nose when I doubt we'll even have a 0 tech in the 4-2-5.
What the coaches think about the DL roster players and what the fanbase (and this board for sure) thinks are two very different things. There are more factors than just the players - the alignment, how the players fit that alignment, and how those players were actually played. I do not think Butler and Rhule were in alignment, and that became more evident as the season wore on.
I keep coming back to Nash and Ty playing late in the season in 2022. They were decent, but when the rubber hit the road, they couldn't stop the run. There were discussions when White was hired as to whether Nash was up for the assignment, as he had been a rotational guy for most of the prior season. Fast forward to the first game against MS under White. Those two stoned the Gopher's run game. White immediately got more out of the players.
I keep coming back to Nash and Ty playing late in the season in 2022. They were decent, but when the rubber hit the road, they couldn't stop the run. There were discussions when White was hired as to whether Nash was up for the assignment, as he had been a rotational guy for most of the prior season. Fast forward to the first game against MS under White. Those two stoned the Gopher's run game. White immediately got more out of the players.
Do those rushing numbers include lost sack yards?
If so, that skews the numbers some.
One of the things that good coaches do is look for the things that players can do well. All of the comments about transfer players and high school player revolves around what that player can't do. If a coach is calling defenses that requires a player to do something he isn't good at, that is not the players fault. Adjust the defense to meet the strengths of the players. There will always be holes and weaknesses on any defense, but if you need an LB to cover a slot receiver or a RB in the passing game, you don't assign a Dylan Rogers type of guy to do that.
The last season NU won 9 games and played in a 4 man front was 2016. Davis twins at 290 and 295, Stoltenberg at 290, Maurice at 300.
He will probably play at about 280-285 but the good thing, he's quick and strong from what I've seen and heard from others who know. I don't think Nebraska is finished adding to the DL/OL. I think we have a few young players in the program that can play and be coached up and probably some who will be weeded out who just can't cut it.
Do we have better defensive tackles right now or last season, it's an honest question if you can be honest with yourself. I think we have a better defensive group right now and with new coaches we get a fresh new start. Will the 2026 schedule be a bear? yes without question but just maybe we can play better football on the front line. Who knows maybe we can even have a winning season in 2026 not a great season but one that's respectable.
One common comment from former Blackshirt players I’ve heard is “getting another year older and stronger is huge for a D lineman”. I like the guys we’ve recruited the past two years. I’m excited to see who shows up in the 2 deep this fall. Simpson is my guy. Loved his high school video. The question for all of them is do they have the want to?
"Listed" weight....Both went to the NFL combine and weight 308 and 313. Believe what you will though. ..nfm
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Collins also weighed un at about 311 at the NFL combine. These "listed" weights are just that.."listed" weights.
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Guys routinely try to adjust their weight aggressively for the combine. Many guys have trouble trying to keep weight on during the season. 10 lbs for a linemen is about one big poop. I know I’m preaching to the choir here. You know that. Obviously combine weights are accurate at the time they’re taken. Roster weights? Often not so much. What is a fact is that Baker Steinkuhler said he played DT for Bo at under 270 lbs during the season. 265 if I remember right. He said he couldn’t keep weight on once fall camp started.
That's true about weights but generally cut weight before the draft in order run faster times. Especially interior lineman.
As far as baker goes I don't disagree. Some guys can't hold the weight. But I'm not sure Baker is a really good example of someone who played lighter and done just as good. I honestly was always kinda disappointed in his play. Never thought he was that good of a DL. Should've stayed on offense iyam.
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Ahhh ok...gotcha.Thats not bad but all of those guys were 6'2 or 6'3 I think. The kid from Pitt is listed at 6'0 and the JC kid 6'2. If those are exaggerated by an inch like most those frames araren'very long.
Itm honestly not worried about it tho. THe HC kid plays with great leverage and uses his hands well. The Pitt kid looks explosive and stout but his motor didn't run like it will need to at his size. Just from watching a little fil.
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Yeah, and right in the middle of spread heavy Big 12 play. The Big 10 is a different animal and requires run stuffers in the middle over pass rushers at every position.
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All of those guys were bigger. I swear the posters on here go to some fudge-a-number site whenever they need something to support their view.
In addition to negotiating military contracts in his sleep, @oldjar07 has a side hustle on the local grocery store parking lot carnival circuit as the Guess Your Weight guy.