A lot of biblical scholars were very curious about Charles Darwin and his thoughts on natural selection. At the same time, fundamentalism was really taking off and needed a rallying cry. All of a sudden, evangelicals wanted nothing to do with science.
Anybody been to the Ark Park yet?
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A lot of biblical scholars were very curious about Charles Darwin and his thoughts on natural selection. At the same time, fundamentalism was really taking off and needed a rallying cry. All of a sudden, evangelicals wanted nothing to do with science.
Funny how so many Christians can't quite get the "be Christ-like" thing down and act like asses.....at least non-believers have an excuse not to.
Interesting that you mention the Jews being in Egypt.
So, in Egypt we know that they viewed their leader, The Pharaoh, as an earthly deity. The living son of their god, Ra. And they believed that upon his death the Pharaoh would be resurrected and go to the sky to be with Ra. They built the pyramids as resurrection machines. They buried the Pharaoh with his earthly belongings so he could take them with him. And this dates back many centuries before Jesus. Fast forward...
We know that Jesus was a Jew. So where could the Jews have gotten a story about a living son of god that died, was buried in a stone chamber, and was resurrected to go live with god?
I don't think it's religion taking us back to the dark ages, people are doing that all on their own.
My bad. Two different floods/events. First we had Pangea where a lot of the world as we know it was under water, then we had Noah's flood. I'm not much of an ancient history scholar.
People are too hing up on the religious aspect of this thing. Millions of people fork out lots of money every year to go see make believe stuff in central Florida. Noah's Ark is entertainment.
Science is the sole proven authority for revealing the mysteries of the cosmos. Religion pretends to be the sole authority, but only provides false, absurd mythological explanations. As long as this is understood, there is no conflict. Ignorant religious believers and wacko leaders like Ken Ham who try to use religion in the business of science are who cause conflict.
Once the singularity occurs we will have all the answers. Right @Willy4UK ?
Answers we may not be willing to accept......
Agree.
I believe there are two types of religious people tho.
A. Those who use religion as a way to channel themselves when they have some sort of spirituality, or in other words it's their way of helping them process an interaction from the environment that provokes emotion. You don't have to be religious to be spiritual, especially if you realize all things in the universe are made from the same things.
Then there's B. People who use religion and the bible as a textbook or science of what happened. Unfortunately for these people, who believe God is mysterious, through time their religion will constantly diminish as science keeps knocking pillars out of it to prove what really happened.
I think religion is a part of the human evolution process to describe how we interpreted things when we didn't understand them.
My favorite fantasy comeback from religious people is "oh so it just happened".. well of course we don't fully understand all the things of the universe yet as we progress through science, but theres alot of evidence which supports most of how things work. ...that would be like asking Moses to explain why we didnt always get static shock. Since he doesn't get static shock he would assume that it's not something that exists and there's nothing needed to prevent it. Or he would just say only God shocks people if he wishes. But it does exist and it is prevented by.....protons.
Plus, if "i bet it just happened" is the scholarly comeback, well a magical invisible wizard made it, who by the way..he himself "just existed" doesn't sound much better.
There is plenty of evidence that points to creation. It's just how someone wants to look at it.
And really, thinking everything came from "the nothing" isn't logical at all. Only takes a few minutes of thought to rule it out.
IMO.
That ark will be handy when global warming causes more large scale flooding. When the floods come I had planned to take my chances on the Titanic in Gatlinburg but now I'm going to keep an ark season pass ready.
What is everyone's opinion of public schools going to the Ark Encounter for field trips?
http://www.kentucky.com/news/local/education/article89061842.html
Personally, I think it's ridiculous to teach dinosaurs on a boat to children, but I didn't buy in. I find it equally ridiculous to those on the other side of this debate who spout the "Krish-shin Nay-shun" BS as a reason to justify having public schools indoctrinate children into the Christian faith. I'm a firm believer that parents should teach lil Johnny about supernatural deities, while schools teach him reading, writing, arithmetic and science. I also have no problem with private religious schools going there for a field trip, as you know going in that indoctrination is part of what you're paying them for.
http://www.kentucky.com/news/local/education/article89061842.html
Personally, I think it's ridiculous to teach dinosaurs on a boat to children, but I didn't buy in. I find it equally ridiculous to those on the other side of this debate who spout the "Krish-shin Nay-shun" BS as a reason to justify having public schools indoctrinate children into the Christian faith. I'm a firm believer that parents should teach lil Johnny about supernatural deities, while schools teach him reading, writing, arithmetic and science. I also have no problem with private religious schools going there for a field trip, as you know going in that indoctrination is part of what you're paying them for.
I agree that it's silly for religious leaders to attempt to disprove science. However, i think its equally silly for scientists to try and disprove faith. Science focuses on the natural world. Faith, the supernatural.
Separation of church and state all the way. I don't want any religious beliefs encroaching into public education because if one is allowed, they all will eventually.
All I know is, if I was in middle school and they tried to take my *** to see Noah's Ark, I'd still be trying to finger blast as many chicks as possible the whole time. IDGAF.
If you're finger blasting, your last statement is not completely accurate.
Yes, science is based on supporting evidence here in our natural reality. Yet, the only evidence pertaining to religious faith in this realm is evidence against it.
If you've done any objective study, you know that the Bible is full of contradictions, inconsistencies, historical flaws, and wild absurd claims all pertaining to circumstances in the natural world, the realm where science, logic, and reason are entirely applicable and trustworthy. When the Bible's natural world claims fail so miserably, why is it granted *any* authority in it's further claims of the untestable supernatural? Because it gives believers a warm burning bosom (as the LDS claim)?
What kind of almighty creator of the universe would provide false mythological ******** and legend as his only communication and then demand or even expect us to believe it?
Scientists don't need to disprove religious faith. It disproves itself. Unfortunately, many people are afraid to use basic common sense and instead follow the lunacy of religious nutjobs who want to destroy science.
i'm totally in support of psychology and psychiatry students taking trips to the Ark Park.
Oh yeah.
"Class, today we are going to Ken Hamm's Noah Ark. We are going to learn about cognitive distortions, cognitive dissonance, delusions, and hallcuinations".
Ida, my man, you never disappoint. Keep bringing the heat.
If you don't like it or aren't interested, don't go. I have no desire to visit, and thats what I plan on doing.
If schools go I'm sure the kids will have to get a permission slip, like they do for any trip. If a parent objects, don't send your kid.
Hell, the only reason it got built was because Atheists got their panties in a wad. Then it became a "how big a boy are ya" confrontation.
If schools go I'm sure the kids will have to get a permission slip, like they do for any trip. If a parent objects, don't send your kid.
Hell, the only reason it got built was because Atheists got their panties in a wad. Then it became a "how big a boy are ya" confrontation.
Yeah, that was a lot of heat. Nice little speech, but not much else.
Oh yeah? Well, you just wait. Big Bang Park is coming soon and it's gonna be twice the size as Noah's Ark Park.
Isn't "Big Bang Park" bookmarked on your Firefox?
You don't believe that. The reason it got built is $$$$$$$$$$$$.