As I see it week 13

[Halldan]

This is not a projection but play to date

1 UConn 12-1 11-0
Can't wait for Friday

2 St John's 16-5 9-1
Ditto

3 Villanova 15-5 7-3
Losses to SJU and UConn I can understand, but at home to Creighton?

4 Seton Hall 16-6 6-5
Home cooking is fine, now beat someone of quality on the road. Wed would be a good start

5 Creighton 12-10 6-5
A week that could send McDermott into retirement

6 Butler 13-9 4-7
What's the opposite of the cream rising to the top

7 Georgetown 12-10 4-7
3 in a row, albeit against the lower teams in the conference

8 Xavier 12-10 4-7
Only because of a 'good' whistle yesterday

9 DePaul 12-10 4-7
Cannot win on the road

10 Providence 9-13 2-9
One of the worst coaching jobs in recent Big East history

11 Marquette 8-15 3-9
2 quality efforts this week

 

[SPK145]

1 - UCONN

2 - St. John's
3 - Villanova

4 - Seton Hall

5 - Butler
6 - Creighton

7 - Xavier
8 - Georgetown
9 - DePaul

10 - Providence
11 - Marquette

 

[dehere23]

1 - Uconn
(gap)

2 - St. John's
(gap)

3 - Nova
(gap)

4. Everyone else

 

[dehere23]

This is not a projection but play to date

1 UConn 12-1 11-0
Can't wait for Friday

2 St John's 16-5 9-1
Ditto

3 Villanova 15-5 7-3
Losses to SJU and UConn I can understand, but at home to Creighton?

4 Seton Hall 16-6 6-5
Home cooking is fine, now beat someone of quality on the road. Wed would be a good start

5 Creighton 12-10 6-5
A week that could send McDermott into retirement

6 Butler 13-9 4-7
What's the opposite of the cream rising to the top

7 Georgetown 12-10 4-7
3 in a row, albeit against the lower teams in the conference

8 Xavier 12-10 4-7
Only because of a 'good' whistle yesterday

9 DePaul 12-10 4-7
Cannot win on the road

10 Providence 9-13 2-9
One of the worst coaching jobs in recent Big East history

11 Marquette 8-15 3-9
2 quality efforts this week

Friends and I were discussing yesterday after the game if we can recall a coaching job as poor as Kim English and Providence this year. His on-court talent is probably top 3/4 in the league, in a year where the league is as weak as it has ever been. The only comparison that came to mind from recent memory is what Dave Leitao did (or didn't do) with some of his later Depaul teams, which had multiple NBA players on them as upperclassmen (I think) surrounded by other talented players. We weren't sure though if we were remembering correctly.

 

[joeyklings]

I think St John’s beats UConn on Friday, but I guess for now
1. Uconn
2. St Johns
Significant Gap
3. Nova
4. Hall
5. Butler
6. Depaul
7. Creighton
8. Gtown
9. Prov
10. X
11. Marq

 

[BrklynGrad]

Surprised so many rank Creighton as low as they do.

Rest of the way for us.

Probable losses: UCONN, St. John's, at Villanova, at Creighton.
Probable wins: PC, at Butler, DePaul, Georgetown, at Xavier.

Do we steal one from first group?
Do we take care of business in all five of the second group?

 

[Halldan]

Last two Creighton games

Kenpom

Date	Rk	Opponent	Result			Location	Record	Conf

Tue Jan 27	53	112	Marquette	L, 86-62			Away	12-9	6-4
Sat Jan 31	64	10	Connecticut	L, 85-58			Home	12-10	6-5

 

[shu09]

Friends and I were discussing yesterday after the game if we can recall a coaching job as poor as Kim English and Providence this year. His on-court talent is probably top 3/4 in the league, in a year where the league is as weak as it has ever been. The only comparison that came to mind from recent memory is what Dave Leitao did (or didn't do) with some of his later Depaul teams, which had multiple NBA players on them as upperclassmen (I think) surrounded by other talented players. We weren't sure though if we were remembering correctly.

Did you forget about Seton Hall last year? One of the worst "coaching" displays I've ever seen. Agree with your rankings above by the way. The gaps are evident and then there's everyone else who can win or lose against those 8 teams any day of the week.

 

[shu09]

Surprised so many rank Creighton as low as they do.

Rest of the way for us.

Probable losses: UCONN, St. John's, at Villanova, at Creighton.
Probable wins: PC, at Butler, DePaul, Georgetown, at Xavier.

Do we steal one from first group?
Do we take care of business in all five of the second group?

I see Seton Hall finishing 9-11 or 10-10. I would not classify @ Butler and @ Xavier as probable wins, those are toss ups at best.

Probable L's: @ Villanova, vs. SJU, @ UConn
Probable W's: vs. PC, vs. DePaul, vs. Georgetown
Toss up: @ Creighton, @ Butler, @ Xavier

Since things never quite go as planned, I'll say they go 1-2 in the probable L's, 2-1 in the probable W's, and 1-2 in the toss ups.

 

[NCAAsorBust]

I see Seton Hall finishing 9-11 or 10-10. I would not classify @ Butler and @ Xavier as probable wins, those are toss ups at best.

Probable L's: @ Villanova, vs. SJU, @ UConn
Probable W's: vs. PC, vs. DePaul, vs. Georgetown
Toss up: @ Creighton, @ Butler, @ Xavier

Since things never quite go as planned, I'll say they go 1-2 in the probable L's, 2-1 in the probable W's, and 1-2 in the toss ups.

Sign me up for 10-10. The way DePaul handled us with relative ease in Chicago I’m putting that in the toss up area. I just dont see us beating the top 3, so I have 0-3 in probable Ls, 2-0 probable Ws and I’m hoping 2-2 in toss ups but my gut says 1-3 with 3 of them being away from the Rock. Stealing the game at Creighton would be gigantic.

 

[dehere23]

Did you forget about Seton Hall last year? One of the worst "coaching" displays I've ever seen. Agree with your rankings above by the way. The gaps are evident and then there's everyone else who can win or lose against those 8 teams any day of the week.

Ha. You are right, but I didn't want to stir up a hornets nest here.

 

[NYC Pirate]

I see Seton Hall finishing 9-11 or 10-10. I would not classify @ Butler and @ Xavier as probable wins, those are toss ups at best.

Probable L's: @ Villanova, vs. SJU, @ UConn
Probable W's: vs. PC, vs. DePaul, vs. Georgetown
Toss up: @ Creighton, @ Butler, @ Xavier

Since things never quite go as planned, I'll say they go 1-2 in the probable L's, 2-1 in the probable W's, and 1-2 in the toss ups.

I agree with much of your chart, but SJU at home is not a Probable loss.

 

[joeyklings]

we lost to butler & nova at home. why wouldn’t stj be a probable loss?

 

[cernjSHU]

Did you forget about Seton Hall last year? One of the worst "coaching" displays I've ever seen. Agree with your rankings above by the way. The gaps are evident and then there's everyone else who can win or lose against those 8 teams any day of the week.

Seton Hall was devoid of talent last year. Providence has some really good players that are somehow not performing. They have 4 players avg double digits. They have played the top teams in the league tough ie UConn OT. But they have not won.

Seton Hall did not underperform last year. They performed to expectations which were bad. Providence has talent and has underperformed. Ur any chance to take a shot on Shaheen, you will take it.

 

[ivyhillpark63]

We need to win Wednesday at nova and beat st johns at home.
Both tough but doable
Need solid gameplay. Need to exploit nova in the paint..

 

[Piratz]

Did you forget about Seton Hall last year? One of the worst "coaching" displays I've ever seen. Agree with your rankings above by the way. The gaps are evident and then there's everyone else who can win or lose against those 8 teams any day of the week.

It was bad all around. Why this year has been enjoyable bc there’s relevance again.

 

[NYC Pirate]

we lost to butler & nova at home. why wouldn’t stj be a probable loss?

The Hall has had strong success against SJU at home in recent years. Many said SHU would get crushed at MSG. I thought it could be competitive and it was. Clarke had the ball down 3 around a minute to go. "If" Seton Hall maintains some type of solid play up to that game I would consider it a toss up game. Let's see how it plays out. SJU is a solid team with a great coach. The SJU at SHU games usually have the same feel as the Rutgers/Hall games.

 

[Piratz]

We need to win Wednesday at nova and beat st johns at home.
Both tough but doable
Need solid gameplay. Need to exploit nova in the paint..

It looks like Butler is folding again. That terrible effort at home against them could become a Q3 loss soon.

Matta’s seat must be getting hot by now. Hes just not the same guy he used to be.

 

[Pirate Russ]

Seton Hall was devoid of talent last year. Providence has some really good players that are somehow not performing. They have 4 players avg double digits. They have played the top teams in the league tough ie UConn OT. But they have not won.

Seton Hall did not underperform last year. They performed to expectations which were bad. Providence has talent and has underperformed. Ur any chance to take a shot on Shaheen, you will take it.

Agree. All those guys transferred down and while i am not following them closely, only Yalden is having really good year.

Sha basically went discount shopping given our NIL situation. and basically whiffed.

 

[Pirate Russ]

He spent money on potential versus production. It is not a bad strategy, but as Cigneti proved, you go for guys based on production and not potential.

 

[Halldan]

Agree. All those guys transferred down and while i am not following them closely, only Yalden is having really good year.

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[NYC Pirate]

We had to get a better PG and we did.

 

[Halldan]

Of course. But Dual, now healthy wanted to come back. If so he's a MUCH better backup at the point than Parker.

And Dual would have been one of the best defensive guards in the league. Imagine him in the same backcourt at times with Clark.

 

[NYC Pirate]

Of course. But Dual, now healthy wanted to come back. If so he's a MUCH better backup at the point than Parker.

And Dual would have been one of the best defensive guards in the league. Imagine him in the same backcourt at times with Clark.

True, but Sha would love his defense so much that he would overplay him and have him on the court too much.

 

[Halldan]

What's wrong with that. He's a far better offensive player now that he is healthy. Last season he basically played with one hand. His right shoulder was a mess and thus the offseason surgery.

 

[SPK145]

Dual is not good this year for McNeese.

 

[Halldan]

I would take him as a backup to Clark in a split second.

GP	MIN	FG%	3P%	FT%	REB	AST	BLK	STL	PF	TO	PTS
22	24.6	45.4	32.7	82.6	2.9	4.0	0.6	1.8	2.5	1.7	8.8

 

[Hall Berry]

It looks like Butler is folding again. That terrible effort at home against them could become a Q3 loss soon.

Matta’s seat must be getting hot by now. Hes just not the same guy he used to be.

So the Creighton win at home just went from Q2 to Q3 this morning. Creighton must get back up to NET 75 or better! (They are now 76).

With only one Quad 1 win (NC State on neutral court), and a current 5-6 record in Quads 1-2, this is how I see it for a potential NCAA bid, as long as Creighton gets back to Top 75 NET. (Of course, this does not account for the relative strength of this year's bubble or bid-stealers).

Signature Quad 1 remaining games: @ Villanova (2/4); @ UConn (2/28); St. John's (3/6) - Need to steal one of these!
Quad 1/Quad 2 remaining games: @ Creighton (2/7); @ Butler (2/15); @ Xavier (3/3) - Win two of these.
Quad 3 remaining games: Providence (2/11); DePaul (2/18); Georgetown (2/21) - Need to win all 3. (No excuses)

Final regular season record: 22-9; Quad 1 wins - 3; Quad 1/2 record: 9-9; Two wins against NCAA tourney teams (NC State on neutral court and ???); no bad losses.

AND win one Big East Tourney game.

 

[shu09]

Seton Hall was devoid of talent last year. Providence has some really good players that are somehow not performing. They have 4 players avg double digits. They have played the top teams in the league tough ie UConn OT. But they have not won.

Seton Hall did not underperform last year. They performed to expectations which were bad. Providence has talent and has underperformed. Ur any chance to take a shot on Shaheen, you will take it.

You expected 2-18? LOLOLOL. Stop with the nonsense.

 

[HALL85]

It looks like Butler is folding again. That terrible effort at home against them could become a Q3 loss soon.

Matta’s seat must be getting hot by now. Hes just not the same guy he used to be.

Butler has an NIL problem also.