Big 12 decision makers set to meet about OU, Texas reports on Thursday

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USC doesn’t care about sports anymore
They had a decision to make.

Same with Texas
They are like UNC. Act like they are better because they care about academics but in their heart is the same insecurity that exists in the SEC
They have to win in these sports
This from the guy that guaranteed USC to Big 12.
 

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That's good for right now, but shortly later we will not be able to keep up cause the money won't be there with the AAC.

Let that sink in.
It doesn’t matter what conference e WVU is in. ESPN is going to get the Super Conferences they have wanted since killing the BCS model. Now you can have the 4 conference champs in the playoff, 4 at large (possibly 8 at large/wild card teams)

The rich will get so much richer with NIL. You will have high school kids securing their financial freedom as juniors as they get recruited by Texas to play in the SEC. A&M is pissed because they have out recruited Texas because of this. Texas now will own their recruiting in the state again and pay big $$$$ thr NIL. OU will do the same.

SEC will turn into a BIG 5 little 11 conference when this happens (Texas, Bama, Auburn, Florida, OU) cause the money going to flow like wine to the recruits legally. AND The NCAA is as powerless as they have ever bee

Kentucky, Mizzou, A&M, Ole Miss etc…don’t stand a chance.

It’s hard to call this a smart move by Oklahoma and Texas. It’s a no-brainer. I wouldn’t be surprised if they offer to pay a massive settlement just to get out I start playing by 2023. They will make that money back up in no time and boosters will shovel it out.
 
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Valuable lesson

Texas and Oklahoma can suck in football.
But they use that insecurity to win at other sports
This is what pushes these sports up to a higher level

Football #1
But Baseball, Softball, basketball or even women’s volleyball matters

WVU for the most part isn’t like that
They need to be
The SEC is like that. Look at Tennessee. They think they are a baseball school

Not going to find a SEC school that isn’t elite in something
Most of the time a couple of sports

even Vandy, Miss State or S Carolina
 

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Valuable lesson

Texas and Oklahoma can suck in football.
But they use that insecurity to win at other sports
This is what pushes these sports up to a higher level

Football #1
But Baseball, Softball, basketball or even women’s volleyball matters

WVU for the most part isn’t like that
They need to be
The SEC is like that. Look at Tennessee. They think they are a baseball school

Not going to find a SEC school that isn’t elite in something
Most of the time a couple of sports

even Vandy, Miss State or S Carolina
Maybe your alma mater, Marshall, can get an ACC invite, since they're a soccer school.
 
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There is talk about making the sport into something more.
We will see with the money

Just imagine young talented players playing here and not in Europe
Don’t think it can compete but that university degree and the ability to get paid helps.
Don’t think you can make a big enough dent on the game outside of the US
Actually has passion behind these schools that pro soccer in the US sometimes lacks
 
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Good chance that ESPN negotiated the new SEC contract with Texas and Oklahoma
Won’t come out in the open but the share size of the deal was crazy
But you see why now

Why a lot of the SEC was at the kids table when this happened and when it come down they were told it would happen with or without them
 

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Starting to sound like two MEGA conferences in the works. Will it be 32 teams, maybe 40 ultimately? Shaking out like a college super bowl - SEC vs B1G in '22.
 
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Starting to sound like two MEGA conferences in the works. Will it be 32 teams, maybe 40 ultimately? Shaking out like a college super bowl - SEC vs B1G in '22.
Why would they do that?
B1G is probably the one that took it hardest on the chin
Might target Texas A&M. But doubt that will work out. Like you said. It would suck to play Minnesota or Wisconsin
 

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Why would they do that?
B1G is probably the one that took it hardest on the chin
Might target Texas A&M. But doubt that will work out. Like you said. It would suck to play Minnesota or Wisconsin
Because the B1G and SEC are the largest benefactors of TV cash, and the B1G has the largest alumni base of any conference. Don't think the B1G isn't going to be reaching out to other schools, or vice-versa, in the case of Kansas. Kansas joining the B1G would make the basketball conference even stronger than it already is, and would likely help them in football recruiting, particularly if K-State, Okie-State, and a few Texas schools are left standing out in the cold.
 
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Because the B1G and SEC are the largest benefactors of TV cash, and the B1G has the largest alumni base of any conference. Don't think the B1G isn't going to be reaching out to other schools, or vice-versa, in the case of Kansas. Kansas joining the B1G would make the basketball conference even stronger than it already is, and would likely help them in football recruiting, particularly if K-State, Okie-State, and a few Texas schools are left standing out in the cold.
FOX
ESPN has no reason to give that conference their platform

Ohio State is surrounded
Shouldn’t have been recruiting Texas so hard😂
Like I said a few months ago. Some schools felt even that is stepping on their toes
 

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FOX
ESPN has no reason to give that conference their platform

Ohio State is surrounded
Shouldn’t have been recruiting Texas so hard😂
Like I said a few months ago. Some schools felt even that is stepping on their toes
FOX for the B1G, ESPN for the SEC

To be honest, I prefer FOX any day of the week over ESPN. ESPN is too woke, and they'll be highlighting LeBron James until the year 2058. I don't watch ESPN or listen to any of their radio shows. It's all FOX for me, except of course when there's a college game on ESPN that I'm interested in.

Going to miss Urban Meyer though on the Saturday pre-game show. He's the best on breaking down the games, and giving honest opinion, without worrying about offending anybody or kissing anybody's ***. Haven't paid attention, so not sure who will be replacing him this year, but I'm assuming it's some out-of-work former coach. Maybe they should have Clay Travis on there.

Edit: Bob Stoops is replacing Meyer. He should be good. For sure, better than the Biden-like guy on ESPN's pre-game show.
 
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Texas/Louisiana 91
Georgia/Florida 101
Last two drafts
192 NFL draft

68 Ohio/PA/Maryland/Michigan


Do you want me to get into population growth rates between those 4 states

Interested in what happens with the PAC 12
We will see
 

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Texas/Louisiana 91
Georgia/Florida 101
Last two drafts
192 NFL draft

68 Ohio/PA/Maryland/Michigan


Do you want me to get into population growth rates between those 4 states

Interested in what happens with the PAC 12
We will see
Texas/Louisiana 1
Georgia/Florida 0
Last seven CFP titles

Ohio/PA/Maryland/Michigan 1

Does population growth rates between those 4 states even matter?

Top recruiting teams in the B1G recruit nationally, and if the field is cut to 32 teams, even more to choose from.
 

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Don’t need a link for common sense

Big 12 doesn’t exist if all the schools leave. No schools No GOR😂

This has been mentioned numerous times

I agree with you and have said this for years. The GOR is just a contract which can be litigated like any other...

Ive specifically mentioned dissolving the conference as an option. I forget what the vote threshold which needs to be met, but if 7 out of 10 schools can find landing spots they will do it...
 

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Starting to sound like two MEGA conferences in the works. Will it be 32 teams, maybe 40 ultimately? Shaking out like a college super bowl - SEC vs B1G in '22.
That's what I heard about 3 years ago. 4 regions and either 32 or 40 teams and they would seperate from NCAA. The 32 sounds right as it would equal the NFL numbers and be farm teams.
 

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Iowa State / Kansas / Kansas State / Oklahoma State end up in Big10. Not sure what combination probably not all 4.

The rest of the Big12 merge with AAC maybe add BYU.

Back to 15 million a year payouts.

5% chance we end up in ACC.

Honestly playing in a league with the remaining Big12 and AAC schools wouldn't upset me. With the playoffs expanding it will be easier to obtain a spot no matter what conference you play in. I don't want to see WVU's revenue cut in half.
 

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Iowa State / Kansas / Kansas State / Oklahoma State end up in Big10. Not sure what combination probably not all 4.

The rest of the Big12 merge with AAC maybe add BYU.

Back to 15 million a year payouts.

5% chance we end up in ACC.

Honestly playing in a league with the remaining Big12 and AAC schools wouldn't upset me. With the playoffs expanding it will be easier to obtain a spot no matter what conference you play in. I don't want to see WVU's revenue cut in half.

From what I read, the ACC can open up negotiations on their TV deal if they add a new member, so they might actually have incentive to bring someone in...

I'm not sure if the B1G really needs to expand at all, but I think 16 conferences are the obvious future and there's only a few pieces left on the board, which wont change in 10 years.
 

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Because the B1G and SEC are the largest benefactors of TV cash, and the B1G has the largest alumni base of any conference. Don't think the B1G isn't going to be reaching out to other schools, or vice-versa, in the case of Kansas. Kansas joining the B1G would make the basketball conference even stronger than it already is, and would likely help them in football recruiting, particularly if K-State, Okie-State, and a few Texas schools are left standing out in the cold.
Sad to say, but probably true
 

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Iowa State / Kansas / Kansas State / Oklahoma State end up in Big10. Not sure what combination probably not all 4.

The rest of the Big12 merge with AAC maybe add BYU.

Back to 15 million a year payouts.

5% chance we end up in ACC.

Honestly playing in a league with the remaining Big12 and AAC schools wouldn't upset me. With the playoffs expanding it will be easier to obtain a spot no matter what conference you play in. I don't want to see WVU's revenue cut in half.
Rumor from Phog Website...

According to a poster on the Ohio State board Kansas is last on the short wish list.

Info below:

Was just told again this morning that the B1G is eyeing to get to 16 schools. The choices as of right now, in order, are UVA, UNC, GT, Kansas.
 

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Iowa State / Kansas / Kansas State / Oklahoma State end up in Big10. Not sure what combination probably not all 4.

The rest of the Big12 merge with AAC maybe add BYU.

Back to 15 million a year payouts.

5% chance we end up in ACC.

Honestly playing in a league with the remaining Big12 and AAC schools wouldn't upset me. With the playoffs expanding it will be easier to obtain a spot no matter what conference you play in. I don't want to see WVU's revenue cut in half.
BYU is not a candidate for anything, the Mountain West doesn't even want them back
 

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Don’t need a link for common sense

Big 12 doesn’t exist if all the schools leave. No schools No GOR😂

This has been mentioned numerous times


“mentioned” 😂. Your take is never gonna happen. Just because it’s common sense to you doesn’t make it common sense.
 

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“mentioned” 😂. Your take is never gonna happen. Just because it’s common sense to you doesn’t make it common sense.

I dont think it's unrealistic. Lets say 7 of the 10 teams can find a comfortable landing spot, that is probably enough to vote to dissolve the conference.

Also, with Texas/OU gone I think you could legally argue that those agreements are no longer valid. Basically, you agreed to those GOR stipulations when playing in the conference with its previous makeup...the conference has changed so the agreements can change.
 

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I dont think it's unrealistic. Lets say 7 of the 10 teams can find a comfortable landing spot, that is probably enough to vote to dissolve the conference.

Also, with Texas/OU gone I think you could legally argue that those agreements are no longer valid. Basically, you agreed to those GOR stipulations when playing in the conference with its previous makeup...the conference has changed so the agreements can change.
Correct. And if I recall correctly it was one reason the Big East collapsed when they couldn't keep at least 8 teams. Only WVU got sued for some strange reason.
 

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Revenue being cut and easier path to the playoffs in a modified AAC/Big 12 conference doesn't go hand in hand. You NEED increased revenue to make it to the playoffs.
 
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Revenue being cut and easier path to the playoffs in a modified AAC/Big 12 conference doesn't go hand in hand. You NEED increased revenue to make it to the playoffs.
That reason I don’t think that happens is GOR
Teams move in on the rest of the schools and then go form there
Either ACC or PAC
UNC is the next school
That is long term

What I am more interested in is who wins between Houston, Baylor or TCU
One spot left

About to get ugly😂
 
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Pisses some people off. At the end of the day ESPN couldn’t do it without Texas.
Won the Director’s Cup
Located in a state that still has state pride.
One that is growing


They couldn’t let them not be in the room.
Maybe eventually but we will see

Some schools could be dropped at the next step from the SEC
 

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Correct. And if I recall correctly it was one reason the Big East collapsed when they couldn't keep at least 8 teams. Only WVU got sued for some strange reason.

If I recall, the Big East sued for the buyout...and didn't WVU countersue?

It was all settled, as anyone with a brain knew it would. I remember Pitt idiots predicting we'd owe absurd cash to leave early, it didn't happen.

Just like GORs, they will all be litigated and settled. Anyone who thinks the conference will walk away with 10 years of media (or whatever it is), is high.

GORs are merely a deterrent.
 
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That reason I don’t think that happens is GOR
Teams move in on the rest of the schools and then go form there
Either ACC or PAC
UNC is the next school
That is long term

What I am more interested in is who wins between Houston, Baylor or TCU
One spot left

About to get ugly😂
Baylor has a guaranteed seat and I'd say TCU as well. Houston.... they need to worry. Lol
 
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Baylor has a guaranteed seat and I'd say TCU as well. Houston.... they need to worry. Lol
PAC 12 is weird
Not to mention Baylor screwed over Houston.
When the rape issue happen. UH fans pushed a lot of it. Then tried to steal their spot


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