Big 12 vs ACC/B1G

[IamNotGregJacobs_rivals]

I’m a bit confused here @TownesVanZandt @WVUFanForever @Cuyahoga Falls Eers

ACC and B1G have zero Final 4 teams and the Big 12 gets 1 through. So after all of the homer noise I made the Big 12 ends up being better.

I should just stick to telling you about my make believe golf trips and about all the money I wish I had.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

Never mess with an 88-year-old retired sportswriter who got paid well for being a sports expert!

Big 10 fans can cry in their beer!

Because they can Bearly stand it that the Big 12 has Baylor in the Final Four.

 

[MichiganHerd]

Never mess with an 88-year-old retired sportswriter who got paid well for being a sports expert!

Big 10 fans can cry in their beer!

Because they can Bearly stand it that the Big 12 has Baylor in the Final Four.

I'm a Michigan fan, whose sports teams compete in the B1G, but I can state with 100% certainty that Baylor being in the final four doesn't move me emotionally one way or the other. Did you know Gonzaga is actually located in the state of Washington? Spokane, Washington to be exact.

 

[The Bell Tolls for Thee]

Never mess with an 88-year-old retired sportswriter who got paid well for being a sports expert!

Big 10 fans can cry in their beer!

Because they can Bearly stand it that the Big 12 has Baylor in the Final Four.

Neither conference had more than 1 team make it past the 1st weekend. Baylor making it to the Final Four is flimsy evidence that you were right in asserting the Big XII was so much more superior. I think the Big 10 was more overrated than the Big XII, but they were BOTH overrated and neither really proved to be significantly better in the tournament than the other. Lastly you again invoke that being a retired sports writer imbues you with some great ability. It doesn't. Had you predicted the vastly overlooked PAC 12 would have made waves, then you could thump your chest about your acumen.

 

[Rootmaster]

Cfe is a fake folks. He is also a blowhard. Just ignore him like everyone in his real world does.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

Good for you to finally show some humility Greggy.
It is a start

 

[wvpaper]

Does Michigan have a basketball board?

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

Neither conference had more than 1 team make it past the 1st weekend. Baylor making it to the Final Four is flimsy evidence that you were right in asserting the Big XII was so much more superior. I think the Big 10 was more overrated than the Big XII, but they were BOTH overrated and neither really proved to be significantly better in the tournament than the other. Lastly you again invoke that being a retired sports writer imbues you with some great ability. It doesn't. Had you predicted the vastly overlooked PAC 12 would have made waves, then you could thump your chest about your acumen.

NOT THUMPING. JUST THE FACTS, MAN. RETIRED SPORTSWRITER MEANS I GOT PAID TO HAVE AN OPINON. HERE YOU GET IT FREE. BE GRATEFUL.

 

[The Bell Tolls for Thee]

NOT THUMPING. JUST THE FACTS, MAN. RETIRED SPORTSWRITER MEANS I GOT PAID TO HAVE AN OPINON. HERE YOU GET IT FREE. BE GRATEFUL.

Quite a lot of hubris there. And Baylor making it to the Final Four while the Big 10 didn't doesn't make your opinion that the Big 12 is so much better a fact. Funny that when the Big 12 didn't have a Final Four team in the past, you weren't ceding the conference's superiority to those that did. Lastly, let's not forget that Chuck Landon is a "sportswriter" that is "paid for his opinion."

 

[Buckaineer]

Yes, of course the BIG 12 having a team in the final four, while no one from the Big Ten (or acc, or SEC) made it that far illustrates as fact that the BIG 12 was/is the better basketball conference. It proves the BIG 12 was underated as compared to the Big Ten all year. Just a fact, the BIG 12 made it to the final four and the Big Ten did not. BIG 12 had 7 teams in, Big Ten had 9 teams in. BIG 12 is still in it and still playing with 4 teams left, BIG 12 is superior. FACT.

Because you don't want that to be true doesn't change those facts.

 

[MichiganHerd]

Does Michigan have a basketball board?

Does Texas have an alter ego, three dozen fake profiles anonymous board for weirdos?

 

[westsiderSJHS77]

NOT THUMPING. JUST THE FACTS, MAN. RETIRED SPORTSWRITER MEANS I GOT PAID TO HAVE AN OPINON. HERE YOU GET IT FREE. BE GRATEFUL.

Two words: CHUCK LANDON

 

[Rootmaster]

NOT THUMPING. JUST THE FACTS, MAN. RETIRED SPORTSWRITER MEANS I GOT PAID TO HAVE AN OPINON. HERE YOU GET IT FREE. BE GRATEFUL.

First anyone who was not a fake and actually was in the biz would know that a "sportswriter " doesn't get paid for their opinion but for reporting facts and results. Opinions are left to editorial writers or columnists. Once again you demonstrate your utter lack of knowledge of the news biz. You have however once again showcased your ignorance and fakeness. You are a little weenie boy now aren't you cfe? Come on fess up junior.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

Two words: CHUCK LANDON

I THOUGHT SWEARING WASN'T ALLOWED ON THIS BOARD.

 

[Rootmaster]

Well cfe that was an odd post considering your fake history.

 

[The Bell Tolls for Thee]

Yes, of course the BIG 12 having a team in the final four, while no one from the Big Ten (or acc, or SEC) made it that far illustrates as fact that the BIG 12 was/is the better basketball conference. It proves the BIG 12 was underated as compared to the Big Ten all year. Just a fact, the BIG 12 made it to the final four and the Big Ten did not. BIG 12 had 7 teams in, Big Ten had 9 teams in. BIG 12 is still in it and still playing with 4 teams left, BIG 12 is superior. FACT.

Because you don't want that to be true doesn't change those facts.

So the American Athletic conference and West Coast Conference are better basketball conferences than the Big 10, Big East, ACC, and SEC since they have Final Four teams and the others don't? If not, then why is not the case for these examples, but is for the Big 10 vs Big XII debate. Since both vastly underperformed in the tournament there is little difference between the 2 and even if the Big XII is better, its not definitive based upon both falling flat on their face in the tournament

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

Quite a lot of hubris there. And Baylor making it to the Final Four while the Big 10 didn't doesn't make your opinion that the Big 12 is so much better a fact. Funny that when the Big 12 didn't have a Final Four team in the past, you weren't ceding the conference's superiority to those that did. Lastly, let's not forget that Chuck Landon is a "sportswriter" that is "paid for his opinion."

Funny that when the Big 12 didn't have a Final Four team in the past, you weren't ceding the conference's superiority to those that did.

LIAR! PROVE IT! WITH DOCUMENTATION FROM WHAT I POSTED IN THE PAST! OR DO YOU JUST MAKE THINGS UP, LIKE A RECENT PRESIDENT I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO MENTION ON HERE.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

AAC is a pretty underrated basketball conference.
My mother's people are from the Mid South area. Memphis into Mississippi...
One of the reasons I got into basketball was them.
I always have a special place in my heart for Memphis Tigers Basketball.

UCF beat Florida State. Took over the game in the end.

Athletic conference like in football...

Some of the teams can compete in bigger conferences.
Always been that way. Even with Cincinnati being down this year.

Houston/Memphis is a Game every time they step onto the court

 

[tOSUaluminWVa]

^^^ Desperate to convince other posters that he's a Southerner who roots for Texas. No Texas fan posts on a WVU message board 24/7, including at 3:00 a.m., sorry.

 

[Rootmaster]

Funny that when the Big 12 didn't have a Final Four team in the past, you weren't ceding the conference's superiority to those that did.

LIAR! PROVE IT! WITH DOCUMENTATION FROM WHAT I POSTED IN THE PAST! OR DO YOU MUST MAKE THINGS UP, LIKE A RECENT PRESIDENT I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO MENTION ON HERE.

This is too funny. Bell trips Ohio middle school educated CFE's trigger! Love it.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

No intelligent person thinks that the West Coast Conference is equal or superior to the Big 12 or Big 10. Only Gonzaga is, and by only 5 points when it played WVU. Because the team at the top wins March Madness doesn't mean the entire conference is deeper than conferences that did not win it that year. Even Gonzaga would have trouble going undefeated if it played a Big 12 conference schedule (every team twice, including WVU which would get TWO shots at knocking off the fabulous Zags). So would Houston, even if it beats Baylor in the Final Four! Remember, WVU of the Big 12 is the ONLY team in America to almost beat Gonzaga (ahead with 6 minutes to go, 1 down with minutes left, lost by 5) and Baylor (went into OT before losing). And yet WVU finished tied for 3rd in the Big 12 because the Big 12 is tougher than playing Gonzaga once and Baylor once (COVID killed the 2nd meeting)! Case closed. Big 12 is awesome from top to bottom. Well, except for Iowa State this season which lost EVERY game in the Big 12. Iowa State should have played in C-USA instead. Might have finished in the middle of the pack!

 

[WVUALLEN]

Single game elimination tournaments do not decide best conference in basketball. Everyone knows that except an old fart like CFE that thinks he knows all even when his other 2 profiles TVZ and Buckybutthole agree with him.

 

[WVUALLEN]

No intelligent person thinks that the West Coast Conference is equal or superior to the Big 12 or Big 10. Only Gonzaga is, and by only 5 points when it played WVU. Because the team at the top wins March Madness doesn't mean the entire conference is deeper than conferences that did not win it that year. Even Gonzaga would have trouble going undefeated if it played a Big 12 conference schedule (every team twice, including WVU which would get TWO shots at knocking off the fabulous Zags). So would Houston, even if it beats Baylor in the Final Four! Remember, WVU of the Big 12 is the ONLY team in America to almost beat Gonzaga (ahead with 6 minutes to go, 1 down with minutes left, lost by 5) and Baylor (went into OT before losing). And yet WVU finished tied for 3rd in the Big 12 because the Big 12 is tougher than playing Gonzaga once and Baylor once (COVID killed the 2nd meeting)! Case closed. Big 12 is awesome from top to bottom. Well, except for Iowa State this season which lost EVERY game in the Big 12. Iowa State should have played in C-USA instead. Might have finished in the middle of the pack!

Gonzaga would have problems going unbeaten in ACC, Big 10 and PAC 12. But how many from those conference teams would be unbeaten in the West Coast Conference?

Iowa State may not have won a game in Big 12 but they rarely got blown out. WVU only beat them by 5 and 4 points and according to you that's nearly a win and WVU should be scared to play ISU again. For a so called expert reporter you sure as hell can not research worth a damn .

 

[tOSUaluminWVa]

Man, Allen, you just obliterated CFE's whole, "we only lost by five points to an undefeated team, so we must be great and Gonzaga must be scared to play us again" propaganda with the Iowa State retort. Well done, sir.

 

[MichiganHerd]

Single game elimination tournaments do not decide best conference in basketball. Everyone knows that except an old fart like CFE that thinks he knows all even when his other 2 profiles TVZ and Buckybutthole agree with him.

You realize you're going to die 7.5 years before CFE, or something like that, right?

 

[WVUALLEN]

You realize you're going to die 7.5 years before CFE, or something like that, right?

At least when I die I'll know the truth and not something made up in my head like this Biden lover CFE.

 

[WVUFanForever]

^^^ Desperate to convince other posters that he's a Southerner who roots for Texas. No Texas fan posts on a WVU message board 24/7, including at 3:00 a.m., sorry.

But suckeye fans who get banned from the pay site post 24/7 on a WVU message board is just fine.

 

[tOSUaluminWVa]

But suckeye fans who get banned from the pay site post 24/7 on a WVU message board is just fine.

You won't see any Ohio State fans on here at 3:00 a.m., tooty fruity. That time is reserved for you to reach-around TVZ. MichiganHerd made a great choice to ignore you because you're a brain-dead imbecile who doesn't know a football from a French horn.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

You want to dance for us today Queen Coal

 

[tOSUaluminWVa]

Do you want to use a question mark just once, fake Texas fan with sub-80 IQ?

 

[MichiganHerd]

You won't see any Ohio State fans on here at 3:00 a.m., tooty fruity. That time is reserved for you to reach-around TVZ. MichiganHerd made a great choice to ignore you because you're a brain-dead imbecile who doesn't know a football from a French horn.

Haha, I was right. The forum dunce is back to stalking. Weirdo only responds to me and you, as well as the Great Greg Jacobs, but yet, I'm guessing he wants us all to leave 'his board'? What else would the baby do if we were to leave?

 

[tOSUaluminWVa]

Haha, I was right. The forum dunce is back to stalking. Weirdo only responds to me and you, as well as the Great Greg Jacobs, but yet, I'm guessing he wants us all to leave 'his board'? What else would the baby do if we were to leave?

He'd still post about us. Remember, I ignored him for at least two years, and he never did stop obsessing over me, or so I've been told. When he makes his first decent sports-related post, I will let you know, but until then, assume that all of his posts are about you, Greg, me or his latest reach-around of the redneck fake Texas fan.

 

[The Bell Tolls for Thee]

Funny that when the Big 12 didn't have a Final Four team in the past, you weren't ceding the conference's superiority to those that did.

LIAR! PROVE IT! WITH DOCUMENTATION FROM WHAT I POSTED IN THE PAST! OR DO YOU MUST MAKE THINGS UP, LIKE A RECENT PRESIDENT I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO MENTION ON HERE.

"We're talking 2018, not ancient history.
Big 12 got 40% of its member into the Sweet Sixteen, maybe 3 in the Final Four because two Big 12 teams will have to play each other. Big 10 got TWO, 14% of its members. Crawl back in your hole and cry like a baby. Maybe Marshall should be in the Big 10."

That was you in 2018 around the Sweet 16 round. Maybe you do not recognize it without the red font. When Michigan and Kansas both made the Final 4, you never ceded that the Big 10 was equal nor superior when Michigan made the championship game and Kansas did not. Note, I'm not the one stating that when comparing 2 conferences, the one with a single team that makes it the furthest in the NCAA Tournament is superior. That is you explaining the Big 12 is better than the Big 10 due to Baylor making the Final Four. I'd argue a conference with 0 Final Four teams, but 4 Sweet 16 teams is better than the conference with one Final Four team, but that team also being the conference's only Sweet 16 team.

 

[The Bell Tolls for Thee]

No intelligent person thinks that the West Coast Conference is equal or superior to the Big 12 or Big 10. Only Gonzaga is, and by only 5 points when it played WVU. Because the team at the top wins March Madness doesn't mean the entire conference is deeper than conferences that did not win it that year. Even Gonzaga would have trouble going undefeated if it played a Big 12 conference schedule (every team twice, including WVU which would get TWO shots at knocking off the fabulous Zags). So would Houston, even if it beats Baylor in the Final Four! Remember, WVU of the Big 12 is the ONLY team in America to almost beat Gonzaga (ahead with 6 minutes to go, 1 down with minutes left, lost by 5) and Baylor (went into OT before losing). And yet WVU finished tied for 3rd in the Big 12 because the Big 12 is tougher than playing Gonzaga once and Baylor once (COVID killed the 2nd meeting)! Case closed. Big 12 is awesome from top to bottom. Well, except for Iowa State this season which lost EVERY game in the Big 12. Iowa State should have played in C-USA instead. Might have finished in the middle of the pack!

So no intelligent person would claim because a team from a certain conference makes the Final Four that the conference is superior to the conference without a Final Four representative? Explains why you use the exact same logic with Big 12 vs Big 10 this year. One conference had 9 tournament teams and the other had 7. Neither conference had more than 1 team make the Sweet 16. One conference got its team to the Final Four and the other lost theirs in the Elite 8. You posted that this singular fact proves your opinion that the Big 12 is so clearly superior to the Big 10. I call ******** on anyone that says the Big 12 vs Big 10 debate this year is folly due to significant objective evidence that one conference is superior to the other. They were very close this year and clearly the top 2 conferences during the regular season. You can have an opinion as to 1 being better than the other, but you cannot reasonably argue that there is a preponderance of evidence making it completely unreasonable for it to be contentious.

 

[Rootmaster]

Bells...give up talking to the Bogus One. He has the intelligence of a Martian rock and the wacky reasoning of Stumbling Joe B.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

So no intelligent person would claim because a team from a certain conference makes the Final Four that the conference is superior to the conference without a Final Four representative? Explains why you use the exact same logic with Big 12 vs Big 10 this year. One conference had 9 tournament teams and the other had 7. Neither conference had more than 1 team make the Sweet 16. One conference got its team to the Final Four and the other lost theirs in the Elite 8. You posted that this singular fact proves your opinion that the Big 12 is so clearly superior to the Big 10. I call ******** on anyone that says the Big 12 vs Big 10 debate this year is folly due to significant objective evidence that one conference is superior to the other. They were very close this year and clearly the top 2 conferences during the regular season. You can have an opinion as to 1 being better than the other, but you cannot reasonably argue that there is a preponderance of evidence making it completely unreasonable for it to be contentious.

YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE READING COMPREHENSION PROBLEM.

WHAT I WROTE, AND YOU KNOW IT, IS THAT I WROTE, AND I SAVED MY POST AS I DO MANY OF MY POSTS IN CASE SOMEONE WITH A HARD-ON FOR ME AND A YEAHBUTHEAD COMES ALONG:

As I said BEFORE March Madness the Big 12 and the Big 10 are pretty even at the top but the Big 12 has better depth.
Guess what? One Big 12 and one Big 10 team in the Elite Eight? The Big 12 and the Big 10 are pretty even at the top, right?
What about comparable depth of Big 12 and Big 10?
In the First Round, the Big 12 was 6-1, the Big 10 6-3. Better depth in Big 10.
In the Second Round, the Big 12 was 1-5 and so was the Big 10. Even. But Big 12 was 7-6 in the first 2 rounds compared to 7-8 for the Big 10. Again, better depth in the Big 10.
Baylor and Michigan made it to the Sweet Sixteen and Elite Eight.
In the ONLY matchup between a Big 12 team and a Big 10 team, Baylor beat Wisconsin, 76-63.
Why do your force me to show how smart and right I am and how wrong the Big 10 fans were. As I said BEFORE March Madness, the Big 12 and Big 10 are even near the top but the Big 12 has more depth.

DOES THAT JOG YOUR MEMORY?

AND NOW THAT THE BIG 12 HAS A TEAM IN MARCH MADNESS AND THE BIG 10 DOESN'T IT WOULDN'T BE UNFAIR TO CLAIM THAT THE BIG 12 THIS SEASON WAS BETTER AT THE VERY TOP THAN THE BIG 10. OR DO YOU HAVE SOME IDIOTIC WAY TO COUNTER THAT AND GET MORE EGG ON YOUR FACE.

 

[Rootmaster]

CFE...try to slow down and comprehend this...NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU POST. YOU ARE A BUMBLING BLOWHARD.

 

[The Bell Tolls for Thee]

Bells...give up talking to the Bogus One. He has the intelligence of a Martian rock and the wacky reasoning of Stumbling Joe B.

There are 2 reasons for debate. To convince your opponent if that is possible. If it is not, as in this case, then the second reason is to convince observers of the logic in your position or the illogical of the oppositions.

 

[The Bell Tolls for Thee]

YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE READING COMPREHENSION PROBLEM.

WHAT I WROTE, AND YOU KNOW IT, IS THAT I WROTE, AND I SAVED MY POST AS I DO MANY OF MY POSTS IN CASE SOMEONE WITH A HARD-ON FOR ME AND A YEAHBUTHEAD COMES ALONG:

As I said BEFORE March Madness the Big 12 and the Big 10 are pretty even at the top but the Big 12 has better depth.
Guess what? One Big 12 and one Big 10 team in the Elite Eight? The Big 12 and the Big 10 are pretty even at the top, right?
What about comparable depth of Big 12 and Big 10?
In the First Round, the Big 12 was 6-1, the Big 10 6-3. Better depth in Big 10.
In the Second Round, the Big 12 was 1-5 and so was the Big 10. Even. But Big 12 was 7-6 in the first 2 rounds compared to 7-8 for the Big 10. Again, better depth in the Big 10.
Baylor and Michigan made it to the Sweet Sixteen and Elite Eight.
In the ONLY matchup between a Big 12 team and a Big 10 team, Baylor beat Wisconsin, 76-63.
Why do your force me to show how smart and right I am and how wrong the Big 10 fans were. As I said BEFORE March Madness, the Big 12 and Big 10 are even near the top but the Big 12 has more depth.

DOES THAT JOG YOUR MEMORY?

AND NOW THAT THE BIG 12 HAS A TEAM IN MARCH MADNESS AND THE BIG 10 DOESN'T IT WOULDN'T BE UNFAIR TO CLAIM THAT THE BIG 12 THIS SEASON WAS BETTER AT THE VERY TOP THAN THE BIG 10. OR DO YOU HAVE SOME IDIOTIC WAY TO COUNTER THAT AND GET MORE EGG ON YOUR FACE.

So the West Coast Conference and American Athletic are better at the top than the other conferences? If Baylor loses, then your own logic will dictate that the PAC-12 or West Coast is superior to the Big 12. You just compared the Big 12 and Big 10 conferences as being pretty close, but don't rewrite history as though when you got all emotional against other posters that you hands down claimed Big 12 superiority to the Big 10 and it wasn't very close. Just like here, you get emotional and start ranting. Now are you going to continue to tell me how smart you are despite me, not being a "paid sports writer", having the ability to more clearly articulate an argument? How about your financial portfolio success that you also like to brag about? One thing worse than an arrogant braggart is a faux humble one.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

So the West Coast Conference and American Athletic are better at the top than the other conferences? If Baylor loses, then your own logic will dictate that the PAC-12 or West Coast is superior to the Big 12. You just compared the Big 12 and Big 10 conferences as being pretty close, but don't rewrite history as though when you got all emotional against other posters that you hands down claimed Big 12 superiority to the Big 10 and it wasn't very close. Just like here, you get emotional and start ranting. Now are you going to continue to tell me how smart you are despite me, not being a "paid sports writer", having the ability to more clearly articulate an argument? How about your financial portfolio success that you also like to brag about? One thing worse than an arrogant braggart is a faux humble one.

WHY DO YOU WORK SO HARD TO MAKE YOURSELF LOOK SO FOOLISH?

NO MATTER WHO WINS DOESN'T MAKE THAT TEAM'S CONFERENCE THE BEST CONFERENCE, TOP TO BOTTOM. CAN'T YOU READ WHAT I WROTE? IT MEANS THAT THE TEAM THAT WON IS #1 IN AMERICA. AND THAT THE TEAMS IN THAT CONFERENCE HAD TO PLAY THE #1 TEAM. BUT THE BIG 12 STILL IS THE DEEPEST .... REPEAT, DEEPEST CONFERENCE ... REGARDLESS OF THE OUTCOME OF THE FINAL FOUR AND TITLE GAMES. THAT ONLY REFERS TO THE TEAM AT THE TOP. IF GONZAGA WINS, WHICH IS MOST LIKELY, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE WEST COAST STILL IS THE STRONGEST CONFERENCE IN AMERICA AND YOU KNOW THAT. IF BAYLOR WINS OR LOSES, THE BIG 12 IS THE DEEPEST CONFERENCE IN AMERICA IN STRENGTH. AND HAS THE ONLY TEAM IN AMERICA THAT GAVE BOTH GONZAGA AND BAYLOR A ROUGH TIME, LOSING TO GONZAGA BY 5 AFTER LEADING WITH 6 MINUTES LEFT AND GOING INTO OVERTIME BEFORE LOSING TO BAYLOR. YOUR AMNESIA DOESN'T CHANGE ANY OF THESE FACTS. STOP MAKING YOURSELF THE LAUGHINGSTOCK OF OTHER POSTERS!