Bob Hurley Sr on Seton Hall

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Thats better from Zags. Give us something original from Hurley and then use the recycled quotes from Popkin's postgame with Sha. Hurley sums us up well.
 

Seton75

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Totally agee. Terrific article and right on the money, though i think if Bob Hurkey didbt agree with me on some basketball issue, maybe i should change my mind lol.

i am more concerned with positve ink for shu than in the journalistic merits and hope zags keeps them coming.
 
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Certainly agree with Hurley Sr’s assessment but in am stating to think the same thing. Outside of Hines, NCState, USC, and KState had way more individual talent and size on the court than SHU did but they just outworked them. I would even say that RU may have more highly rated players on their roster and more size than we do.

The other thing Hurley said is that SHU is getting good shooting “right now.” Obviosly we can‘t see a prolonged dip in the three ball production. We didn’t shoot well from three at KState but I counted at least four that were down but pooped back out.

The one thing that we can count on with this group with Holloway as coach is that there won’t be a drop in effort.
 

Seton75

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we shot over 33% from 3 once in the past 4 games - not counting ccst. we often shoot great for a few minutes then cool off. which is one of the things i loved about maui and k st. good wins but none featured out of character shooting
 

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we shot over 33% from 3 once in the past 4 games - not counting ccst. we often shoot great for a few minutes then cool off. which is one of the things i loved about maui and k st. good wins but none featured out of character shooting
This is exactly how I feel. I know there have been several posts that highlight how Kansas State played poorly and NC State was overrated and then how USC blew a big lead at home…(without their best player)

I almost find that some posters have a hard time with success (instead of SHU — and KW— having a hard time with it).

A couple of years ago we complained hugely how we missed the NCAA’s due to a miserable OOC record.

Well, a win against Rutgers and now the OOC will help us this year.

it’s nice to have some confidence going into conference play for a change.
 

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This is exactly how I feel. I know there have been several posts that highlight how Kansas State played poorly and NC State was overrated and then how USC blew a big lead at home…(without their best player)

I almost find that some posters have a hard time with success (instead of SHU — and KW— having a hard time with it).

A couple of years ago we complained hugely how we missed the NCAA’s due to a miserable OOC record.

Well, a win against Rutgers and now the OOC will help us this year.

it’s nice to have some confidence going into conference play for a change.
I'm as #TeamSha as anyone, but after a year like last year, with a team full of new guys who were largely unknown to most posters here, I think it's natural and reasonable to rationalize -- or at least try to -- the early success we've had so far this season. I don't think it's because there isn't anyone enjoying it, but a lot of us are still sifting our pans, trying to discern fool's gold from the genuine thing. It's a defense mechanism to prevent us from getting hurt later if the team takes a nose dive.

Personally, I think I've seen enough to honestly believe we've got a pretty good team that is going to be worth watching all winter. There are always ebbs and flows in a 20-game Big East season, but I can see how our style of play made it look like Kansas State played poorly or that NC State looked flat or whatever. Some of that is our team imposing itself on those other teams.
 

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fools gold is a great win while shooting 55% from 3 or doing something else that is not reasonable to expect on a nightly basis. exactly what these recent 4 games were not. fools gold might be a nice nc st win, getting screwed by bad calls vs ucs, then laying an egg vs w st.

and imo source, if you are downplaying your expectations so you dont get hurt later, 1. you are already sold and 2. if we fail to live up to this start, it will hurt you as bad as it will hurt some positoid knucklehead like me.
 

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I'm as #TeamSha as anyone, but after a year like last year, with a team full of new guys who were largely unknown to most posters here, I think it's natural and reasonable to rationalize -- or at least try to -- the early success we've had so far this season. I don't think it's because there isn't anyone enjoying it, but a lot of us are still sifting our pans, trying to discern fool's gold from the genuine thing. It's a defense mechanism to prevent us from getting hurt later if the team takes a nose dive.

Personally, I think I've seen enough to honestly believe we've got a pretty good team that is going to be worth watching all winter. There are always ebbs and flows in a 20-game Big East season, but I can see how our style of play made it look like Kansas State played poorly or that NC State looked flat or whatever. Some of that is our team imposing itself on those other teams.
Exactly, we have taken the heart of both NC State and Kansas State.

Referees prevented us from doing the same to USC.
 
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I'm as #TeamSha as anyone, but after a year like last year, with a team full of new guys who were largely unknown to most posters here, I think it's natural and reasonable to rationalize -- or at least try to -- the early success we've had so far this season. I don't think it's because there isn't anyone enjoying it, but a lot of us are still sifting our pans, trying to discern fool's gold from the genuine thing. It's a defense mechanism to prevent us from getting hurt later if the team takes a nose dive.

Personally, I think I've seen enough to honestly believe we've got a pretty good team that is going to be worth watching all winter. There are always ebbs and flows in a 20-game Big East season, but I can see how our style of play made it look like Kansas State played poorly or that NC State looked flat or whatever. Some of that is our team imposing itself on those other teams.
So I sort of get this. As a lifelong sports player as well as a fan, I get the superstitious/heart protected approach.

But there’s a point where you need to call a spade a spade. Right now, this team is creating an identity that is what Sha has wanted since he began. At this point in time, you have to allow him that.

But—at the same time—just because this team has had a good opening run doesn’t mean they’ll roll through the Big East even in a down year.

And just from a fan’s perspective, what the hell are we doing if we can’t have some fun with winning for a change?
 

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So I sort of get this. As a lifelong sports player as well as a fan, I get the superstitious/heart protected approach.

But there’s a point where you need to call a spade a spade. Right now, this team is creating an identity that is what Sha has wanted since he began. At this point in time, you have to allow him that.

But—at the same time—just because this team has had a good opening run doesn’t mean they’ll roll through the Big East even in a down year.

And just from a fan’s perspective, what the hell are we doing if we can’t have some fun with winning for a change?
Personally, I feel exactly like that. I was just trying to shed some light on the phenomenon of disbelief that is still present here. If we keep winning, others will come along.
 

Seton75

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once shu hoops smiles at me, i picture waking up in her bed. she smiled. i am all in (unintended pun).
 
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Last year was a disaster and there were a number of things that Sha deserved criticism. Only ten games in and 33% from three maybe all that this team needs. The ball movement and Bud getting into the lane has been so good the vast majority of them have been uncontested.

Two things will keep this team in most every BE game. Defense (and points off turnovers), and ball movement/cuts. They are unselfish and not reliant on one guy. This formula will carry into the BE.