Bonner tweeted about stands being empty at 5:40

Bullycon

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Reseating the Hump, and taking the seats away from folks who had shown up for years, was the biggest mistake we ever made. It has permanently killed the atmosphere at the Hump.
 

MedDawg

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There are too many other things to do in Starkville on a Thursday night**

nm
 

DerHntr

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Our crowd is really depressing. UF should expect all of their away games to be hostile environments. The last two years of Stans plus the first two of an unknown coach has been a prefect storm.
 

The Peeper

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Re-seating the Hump only partially killed the atmosphere. It gave the tickets to companies that write the donation off and may sometimes get the tickets to somebody that will go to the game. What it also did though was took Ma & Pa Kettle from Eupora who drove over for a 5:00 dinner @ Barnhills and then went to the game out of the mix. They no longer buy their seats that they bought for 40 years. Its not like they added anything to the atmosphere but it did look better on tv when they were there. What killed the atmosphere mostly in my opinion is not having a winner on the court.
 

Seinfeld

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People can make all of the negative comments that they want about Stansbury's last two years because most of them are deserving, but at no point during that time did we play a nationally ranked team in Starkville with a crowd half as embarrassing as last night's. Point being that this sad state of affairs has a lot more to do with the present than the past.

Oh, and bring back the Bryan jalapeno hot dogs. I miss the hell out of those things
 

Philly Dawg

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Re-seating had no effect. Splitting the students and moving them did have an effect.

But the biggest problem right now is neither. A significant number of season ticket holders live in Jackson or other places that are over an hour from campus and those people aren't likely to come to many weeknight games if the team isn't good.
 

DerHntr

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My point was it is a combination of those things that caused the problem.

1. Hype up a bunch of players with raw talent.
2. Provide no discipline and let inmates run the asylum.
3. Vastly underperform.
4. Run off winningest coach because of issues above.
5. Hire someone that is a very big unknown.
6. Run off the inmates.
7. Bring in lower ranked recruits.
8. Lose a TON of games in year one.


You can't have 5 thru 8 without 1 thru 4. Ray is building from the ground up and it is quite clear our fans don't want to watch the process. I understand why too. Like I said though, it is just damn depressing.
 

tcdog70

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Re-seating the Hump only partially killed the atmosphere. It gave the tickets to companies that write the donation off and may sometimes get the tickets to somebody that will go to the game. What it also did though was took Ma & Pa Kettle from Eupora who drove over for a 5:00 dinner @ Barnhills and then went to the game out of the mix. They no longer buy their seats that they bought for 40 years. Its not like they added anything to the atmosphere but it did look better on tv when they were there. What killed the atmosphere mostly in my opinion is not having a winner on the court.

I call ********--I am one of the Mom and Pops that bought 5 season tickets since the day the HUMP opened. Went to everygame. Took My kids and the atmosphere was fine. Went to SEC tourneys. The love of Money over having one of the toughest places to play In the SEC killed our program. MSU had REAL basketball Fans, they came from a 75 mile radius. They weren't necessarily football fans but they loved Basketball. They came they, they supported and they got screwed by their beloved University. We were promised that if you bought season tickets you could keep them. Then, the ole points system came into play. Why should someone who bought football tickets get points even though he had never attended basketball? I understand the need for Money, but isn't loyalty and attendance worth something?

The basketball program is in the toilet. Our leaders have seriously dropped the ball. Someone needs to figure it out and put our Basketball program back where it belongs. Another thing that pisses me off is this. Stansbury recruited really well and did so withouta practice facility. he went out and raised the money (without much help from our AD) got us a great facility. So we reward Him by running His *** off. Now Rick Ray has a great facility and can't recruit one player that can shoot,or rebound and the some he recruits can't get qualified. I think he can Coach but His recruiting ain't hitting on ****.
 

tcdog70

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Re-seating had no effect. Splitting the students and moving them did have an effect.

But the biggest problem right now is neither. A significant number of season ticket holders live in Jackson or other places that are over an hour from campus and those people aren't likely to come to many weeknight games if the team isn't good.

whoa, you are contradicting yourself. Re-seating took seats away from people that attended the games and game them to People that don't.
 

ArcherSPS

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That's why he has the #10 ranked class in the nation? Some of you are so damn ignorant it's unreal...
 

tcdog70

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My point was it is a combination of those things that caused the problem.

1. Hype up a bunch of players with raw talent.
2. Provide no discipline and let inmates run the asylum.
3. Vastly underperform.
4. Run off winningest coach because of issues above.
5. Hire someone that is a very big unknown.
6. Run off the inmates.
7. Bring in lower ranked recruits.
8. Lose a TON of games in year one.


You can't have 5 thru 8 without 1 thru 4. Ray is building from the ground up and it is quite clear our fans don't want to watch the process. I understand why too. Like I said though, it is just damn depressing.

IMHO,there was no reason to run Him off. His cancer was gone. Why our newbie AD coundnt sit down with Him and re-group is beyond Me. If Stans was still here there is a good chance our starting five would be-Hood, Ware, Chicken, Pollard and Gray--with Steele and who knows who else he would have recruited. Starting from the ground up wasn't called for.
 

Seinfeld

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That I agree with. Also, while the annual re-seating thing has been going on for awhile now, I'm almost certain that they didn't start charging extra for lower level seats until a couple years ago. I may be wrong, but it couldn't have been worse timing
 

Bulldogg31

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IMHO,there was no reason to run Him off. His cancer was gone. Why our newbie AD coundnt sit down with Him and re-group is beyond Me. If Stans was still here there is a good chance our starting five would be-Hood, Ware, Chicken, Pollard and Gray--with Steele and who knows who else he would have recruited. Starting from the ground up wasn't called for.

Completely agree with the above. We blew this one. No reason to run Stans off (unless Renardo had the goods on him).

The timing couldn't be worse either...we missed a golden opportunity with the SEC being so terrible in basketball. We'd be a top 4 team at worst.

How in the world do we only have 8 scholarship players in year 2? Did we put ourselves on double-secret probation?

Imagine the football team with 52 scholarship players...that's the equivalent...61% of eligible scholarships filled. Ridiculous.
 
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WTF??? Who is ranking us with the #10 class? I looked at ESPN, Rivals, Scout and 247. None of them had us ranked at #10. Only 247 went past #40 in their rankings. They had us listed at #73. We weren't even listed on any of the others.
 

ArcherSPS

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247 the 2015 class is ranked #10 in the nation but let's ignore that fact
 
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ArcherSPS

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Please tell me you're joking for Woodhouse's sake tell me you're joking..Plus I'm running low on gummy bears for my scotch so I need a heads up if you're being serious
 
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Its probably best that everyone including you

Ignore rankings of recruiting classes that are a year away. Right now 247 has us at #73 for 2014 class. The 2015 class looks alot like the 2014 class.
 

MadDawg.sixpack

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247 the 2015 class is ranked #10 in the nation but let's ignore that fact

Are you for real? We have 3 3-star players committed and we are the #10 ranked class in the country? You do realize, we are the ONLY team in their top 10 with more than 2 players committed?

But you really should change your statement. They have us ranked #6 now. So we almost have a top 5 ranked class, according to those very comprehensive and projectible rankings.
 

patdog

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Sidney was far from the only cancer Stansbury had on his team the last 4 or so years. I do agree that in hindsight, we probably should have asked him to retire a year earlier or given him 1 more year, though.
 

msugolf

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Except the 2015 class is ranked #10 don't be blind just to down Ray

The 2015 class based on past years' point scale will be ranked around 65-70. We have 28.45 points due to having the 3 players committed. That would've put us at 69th last year.
 

Philly Dawg

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Disagree. I don't think that the people who lost their seats are any more or less likely to come to games that the people that took their seats. In fact, I think many of them are still season ticket holders, just not holders of prime seats.

In fact, having been a season ticket holder for over 20 years, I can tell you that the crowds we have now, if anything, are better than the crowds we used to have prior to re-seating when the team was not that good.
 

thf24

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IMHO,there was no reason to run Him off. His cancer was gone. Why our newbie AD coundnt sit down with Him and re-group is beyond Me. If Stans was still here there is a good chance our starting five would be-Hood, Ware, Chicken, Pollard and Gray--with Steele and who knows who else he would have recruited. Starting from the ground up wasn't called for.

You're still hell-bent on pretending we would have had Hood and Pollard in 2012 under Stansbury, huh?
 

mstateglfr

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You suck at life

247 the 2015 class is ranked #10 in the nation but let's ignore that fact
This post is dumb as a joke and even morer dumber as a serious comment.


You are citing a signing class that is still 10-18 months away. One where LESS THAN 20 OF THE TOP 100 PLAYERS HAVE EVEN COMMITTED.

Your comment is worthless.
 

ArcherSPS

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If Stans was still here and his class was ranked #10 at any point currently you 17ers would be upon the tip of Meo's teet singing the praises of wonderful he was.
 

HueFreeze

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If those people know their tickets won't be used or can not sell them.
I will take them and give to people that want to go.
PM me.