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FSU fell short on strength of schedule criteria.
The other teams each had 3 wins vs top 25 teams and FSU didn't.
Polishing the edges on that fact FSU's QB being out for rest of season.
FSU was the weak link from the top teams
If Travis was healthy or they demolished Louisville last night, I think they would've gotten in. Neither of those things are true so it's understandable if they didn't get in.

I watched that show and McFarland was there for all of it. They just swap analysts in and out and Mullen and RG3 were offset in chairs as well.
 

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FSU fell short on strength of schedule criteria.
The other teams each had 3 wins vs top 25 teams and FSU didn't.
Polishing the edges on that fact FSU's QB being out for rest of season.
FSU was the weak link from the top teams
they scheduled lsu in the non-conference. to go undefeated and play a powerhouse like lsu in the non-conference schedule is incredible. fsu did everything that anyone could ask of them.
 

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Watched the video and never heard him say that espn selected the matchups
 

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FSU fell short on strength of schedule criteria.
The other teams each had 3 wins vs top 25 teams and FSU didn't.
Polishing the edges on that fact FSU's QB being out for rest of season.
FSU was the weak link from the top teams
SOR says who cares?? FSU > Bama. SOS doesn't tell the whole story.

Since injuries and the eye test matter so much, were going to see kids with concussions and injuries playing so they can win a beauty contest.
 
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they scheduled lsu in the non-conference. to go undefeated and play a powerhouse like lsu in the non-conference schedule is incredible. fsu did everything that anyone could ask of them.

"Powerhouse" LSU is ranked #13

Alabama beat #5 Georgia
Texas beat #4 Alabama
Georgia beat #11 Ole Miss
Michigan beat #6 OSU and #10 PSU
Washington beat #8 Oregon (x2)
 
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they scheduled lsu in the non-conference. to go undefeated and play a powerhouse like lsu in the non-conference schedule is incredible. fsu did everything that anyone could ask of them.
According to CBS, FSU played weaker schedule at game dates (first and last week ranks are different). Every year good teams get left behind for squeaky reasons . That's CFB with four slots. RU got bowl (with only 5 wins) vs Wake with non-football criteria,

 

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"Powerhouse" LSU is ranked #13

Alabama beat #5 Georgia
Texas beat #4 Alabama
Georgia beat #11 Ole Miss
Michigan beat #6 OSU and #10 PSU
Washington beat #8 Oregon (x2)
Then what’s the difference between Georgia and FSU?

Why is Alabama’s win over Georgia so good if Georgia has a similar best win as FSU?

I’ll start respecting the SEC when they stop scheduling D1AA teams in November
 

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"Powerhouse" LSU is ranked #13

Alabama beat #5 Georgia
Texas beat #4 Alabama
Georgia beat #11 Ole Miss
Michigan beat #6 OSU and #10 PSU
Washington beat #8 Oregon (x2)
But FSU beat Bama in SOR because Bama struggles against the likes of Arkansas, Auburn and USF
 
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Selection committee chairman Boo Corrigan made it clear that Florida State's exclusion from the playoff was because of Travis' injury. Playoff criteria allows the committee to consider injuries when choosing the playoff field.

"It changes their offense in its entirety," the NC State athletic director said. "And that was really a big factor."

 

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The media had no problem voting BYU #1 in ‘84. There are multiple examples of other inconsistencies through the years.

Up to FSU to win their bowl to be able to forever complain.
 

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SOR says who cares?? FSU > Bama. SOS doesn't tell the whole story.

Since injuries and the eye test matter so much, were going to see kids with concussions and injuries playing so they can win a beauty contest.
SOR has ZERO to do with it. If people actually watched the selection show they would understand a long standing policy by the committee. If you lose a major player near the end of the season they will evaluate if you're still the dominant team you were before losing the player. FSU was not! The outrage is so phoney on here.
 
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It comes down to them not wanting to leave out an SEC team. Can’t have Georgia without Alabama. Can’t have Alabama without Texas. So who gets screwed? FSU.
Exactly as I predicted... and for the same reasons. TV overlords demand it. Same as to why there will be byes next year instead of picking 8 or 16. The giant-viewership final four will have guaranteed "big name" teams if they can pick who gets the byes through various rankings and ratings.

I have to say though.. it looked to me like refs were helping FSU and Michigan... so in FSU's case.. weak conference.. friendly refs vs Louisville... glad they are out.
 

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Booger did mysteriously disappear after going on his rant about FSU’s exclusion. The other commentators seemed horrified, in a funny way, when he started going off on the committee. At one point, one of the commentators rolled up a paper into a ball and and threw it at him. It all may have been scripted, but it seemed like he was genuinely ticked off. It was one of the few times when I saw a bunch of commentators interact in a way that was both awkward and entertaining. I’m glad that Booger had the guts to speak out and express his frustration instead of towing the company line.
 
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BTW.. Booger getting pulled.. is that a sign that ESPN is directly involved in selecting the CFP participants in one way or another? Did bigwigs at ESPN take Booger's criticism as a direct rebuke of their own decisions?

Or was Booger drunk?
 

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SOR has ZERO to do with it. If people actually watched the selection show they would understand a long standing policy by the committee. If you lose a major player near the end of the season they will evaluate if you're still the dominant team you were before losing the player. FSU was not! The outrage is so phoney on here.
Was Alabama dominant needing a miracle to beat Auburn on 4th and 31, a week after Auburn lost to New Mexico State by 20?

Doesn’t matter
They won the game
Period

13-0 is 13-0

I get the injury, but by that logic, UGA should be ranked ahead of FSU
if you’re going to dock FSU for playing sans Travis, they better have him in nyc for the Heisman ceremony

You think they’re leaving a 13-0 SEC team out of the playoffs?

There’s a reason people are up in arms about this. The entire thing is ridiculous and embarrassing at the same time
 

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Selection committee chairman Boo Corrigan made it clear that Florida State's exclusion from the playoff was because of Travis' injury. Playoff criteria allows the committee to consider injuries when choosing the playoff field.

"It changes their offense in its entirety," the NC State athletic director said. "And that was really a big factor."

With a fellow ACC AD giving reasoning why FSU was not selected makes FSU that much more committed to getting the hell out of that conference.

GO RU
 

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The correct 4 teams were selected, and it was not just on strength of schedule. There is another criterion stating if key players are injured, that also affects their playoff standing. Kirk was completely right and Booger was wrong. If he had just stated his opinion, fine, but going on a rant like that made me turn off the TV. We have enough of that with all the politics on TV..

We are going to get the best semifinals AND final that we have seen in years. FSU, even with their starting quarterback would not be undefeated playing the schedules of any of the teams selected for the playoff. In fact they would have lost to Duke if Leonard was healthy.

Give their defense credit for pulling out a close win against a mediocre Louisville team last night (#14, really?). Applaud them like UCF a few years ago for being undefeated.

Thankfully the playoff is expanded next year, although I think 8 is the ideal amount - with home field in the first round to top 4 seeds.
 
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Was Alabama dominant needing a miracle to beat Auburn on 4th and 31, a week after Auburn lost to New Mexico State by 20?

Doesn’t matter
They won the game
Period

13-0 is 13-0

I get the injury, but by that logic, UGA should be ranked ahead of FSU
if you’re going to dock FSU for playing sans Travis, they better have him in nyc for the Heisman ceremony

You think they’re leaving a 13-0 SEC team out of the playoffs?

There’s a reason people are up in arms about this. The entire thing is ridiculous and embarrassing at the same time
I see you have big reading comprehension issues. The committee has history in this...
 

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Selection committee chairman Boo Corrigan made it clear that Florida State's exclusion from the playoff was because of Travis' injury. Playoff criteria allows the committee to consider injuries when choosing the playoff field.

"It changes their offense in its entirety," the NC State athletic director said. "And that was really a big factor."

crock of ****!
they overcame, proved more depth than most
in addtion, SEC best ooc win was Louisvill!!!!!
 

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I see you have big reading comprehension issues. The committee has history in this...
The committee has a history of talking out their ***

They claim it’s not about the eye test, then what would it be about?

You have an undefeated power five team that won all of their games, scheduled two SEC teams out of conference, and won their conference championship game to finish 13-0

You’re going to tell me that they would not have played Washington, Michigan or Texas in a competitive game with that dominating defense they have?

It’s beyond laughable how absurd this is, and even more disgraceful how hypocritical the NCAA is on so many levels

They are a Collegiate version of FIFA, an absolute band of clowns that have no earthly idea what they’re doing and continue to move the goalpost on a yearly basis
 

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Was Alabama dominant needing a miracle to beat Auburn on 4th and 31, a week after Auburn lost to New Mexico State by 20?

Doesn’t matter
They won the game
Period

13-0 is 13-0

I get the injury, but by that logic, UGA should be ranked ahead of FSU
if you’re going to dock FSU for playing sans Travis, they better have him in nyc for the Heisman ceremony

You think they’re leaving a 13-0 SEC team out of the playoffs?

There’s a reason people are up in arms about this. The entire thing is ridiculous and embarrassing at the same time
Exactly. I don't even like FSU but there's no issue with their schedule. They didn't play 9 mountain west teams. They beat LSU and Florida while going undefeted in the ACC. 0 losses < 1 loss.
 

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SOR has ZERO to do with it. If people actually watched the selection show they would understand a long standing policy by the committee. If you lose a major player near the end of the season they will evaluate if you're still the dominant team you were before losing the player. FSU was not! The outrage is so phoney on here.
SOR is a combination of what the committee claims to use. It determines how hard it is to achieve that team's record.

Strength of Record >>> Strength of Schedule

FSU beats Alabama. It takes SOS, losses, etc.

If Milroe got hurt and Alabama won, there is no chance that Bama wouldn't be #4. The injury excuse is ********.
 
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Selection committee chairman Boo Corrigan made it clear that Florida State's exclusion from the playoff was because of Travis' injury. Playoff criteria allows the committee to consider injuries when choosing the playoff field.

"It changes their offense in its entirety," the NC State athletic director said. "And that was really a big factor."

Convenient excuse. There have been 4 other teams selected with a backup QB
 

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SOR has ZERO to do with it. If people actually watched the selection show they would understand a long standing policy by the committee. If you lose a major player near the end of the season they will evaluate if you're still the dominant team you were before losing the player. FSU was not! The outrage is so phoney on here.
From ESPN article…..
Yes, Florida State is without starting QB Jordan Travis, meaning it would have to play with a quarterback who wasn't its opening-week starter in order to win a national title, and of course that couldn't happen. After all, only 2014 Ohio State, 2017 Alabama, 2018 Clemson and 2021 Georgia did that. What are the odds that something that's happened 44% of the time would happen again?
 

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With a fellow ACC AD giving reasoning why FSU was not selected makes FSU that much more committed to getting the hell out of that conference.

GO RU

Every year a team get burned and/or feels burned.
Of course bowls and networks want good ratings and competitive games.
If they see injuries to a key player as a reason to not let a team be one of only four then it is what it is.
Its not like a bad team gets in instead.
Personally I like the B1G team and dont care about the others at all.
FSU didn't impress me from a distance
FSU doesn't beat GA
I will add Boo Corrigan is a good football guy - Army AD with time on ND and Duke staffs.
He "got" football at Army and didn't get lost like most other ADs.
I would put him ahead of RU's guy in a second
 

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If this was 2024, it’d be 2 B1G teams (UMich, UW) vs 2 SEC teams (ALA, UT). Think these 2 conferences have separated from the rest of college football?
 
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If this was 2024, it’d be 2 B1G teams (UMich, UW) vs 2 SEC teams (ALA, UT). Think these 2 conferences have separated from the rest of college football?
The top 4 teams can’t come from the same conference in the future. Unless the G5 team has a great year, the B12 and ACC will have those other two spots and a bye a high percentage of the time.
 

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The top 4 teams can’t come from the same conference in the future. Unless the G5 team has a great year, the B12 and ACC will have those other two spots and a bye a high percentage of the time.
Until it gets changed.
 
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Until it gets changed.
I don't expect it to change any time soon, if at all. They want emphasis on conference champions and they want those championship games to have meaning and weight and assigning byes to the 4 highest conference champs maintains that. I suppose if it expands in the future to 16 then the byes will go but then they'll probably get auto home field or something.

There is still inclusion in CFB, regardless of this idea that the SEC/B10 are taking over everything. Some level of inclusion and opportunity is good for the sport and they're maintaining that. G5 has gotten greater access over the last couple decades from their first games in the BCS bowls and the other power conferences outside the B10/SEC will still have weight too. The expansion to 12 also allow for opportunity for lower status schools as well. I've said this plenty of times here, all I see is more opportunity than ever for teams from the top on down and it's healthy for CFB and so far the leaders of the sport want to maintain that health.
 

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BTW.. Booger getting pulled.. is that a sign that ESPN is directly involved in selecting the CFP participants in one way or another? Did bigwigs at ESPN take Booger's criticism as a direct rebuke of their own decisions?

Or was Booger drunk?
He did get pulled I’m not sure why the other guy on here said he didnt .. RG3 replaced him for the final hour and a half of the show. It was awkward because you can tell he was actually getting a rile out of the other guys. Joey Galloway was getting visibly angry at him, including rolling his eyes every time Booger spoke, calling him out personally for saying “we” when referencing FSU (saying ESPN doesnt have a “we” or stake in the games, which is complete BS), and also crumpled up a piece of paper and threw it at him while he was talking. Booger threw it back and the next commercial RG3 was in Boogers spot.