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RUsojo

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He ain’t wrong and though this board refuses to admit it NJ pop is having a bit of a laugh at the landscape of NJ hoops. Same vibe in eastern PA but with a pinch of Penn St superiority complex.

The accomplishments of these teams really put RUs accomplishments or lack there of from a national perspective and not old Rutgers community low bar expectations perspective in view.
 

bitnez

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It’s such a lame story line. When we eventually win big — and we will — it will be that much sweeter. Until then be happy for a bunch of kids at FDU would couldn’t sniff a P5 offer and their coach who has worked his way up.
 

NewJerseyHawk

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I can only say it so many times......jealousy and envy is the evil of happiness.

Lots of schools, universities and folks would love to be in RU shoes going forward......and Purdue isn't going to crumble im despair either.

Once fans understand this reality and stop acting with such an inferiority mindset, there's no need to punch down or be overly concerned about a week long story. The FDU win will live on for decades and is what makes college sports great. But it's basketball folks. Someone who claims to know the sport or cover it, somehow acts like he's not seen March Madness before. It's actually called "madness", for a reason.

There is something that is taking place and it's RU moving forward to bigger and better things and with that comes larger expectations.....all good to me.
...some people in the media want to have Seton Hall, ride the coattails of RU, so they can benefit along the way. I get it, it's all about spin and storyline.

Is every sports program going to have a perfectly clean resume, as they improve?? That's not reality. There will be dips along the way up.
 

RUPete

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Eh, I like Jerry’s writing and he is versatile beyond sports, but he always takes a dig at football because he blames it for the demise of the old BE. He has written columns about it and makes no apologies for it. No big deal and I don’t think these teams having their moments in the sun is some sweeping indictment of Rutgers Athletics as some (one) of our “fans” seem to think.
 

DHajekRC84

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Eh, I like Jerry’s writing and he is versatile beyond sports, but he always takes a dig at football because he blames it for the demise of the old BE. He has written columns about it and makes no apologies for it. No big deal and I don’t think these teams having their moments in the sun is some sweeping indictment of Rutgers Athletics as some (one) of our “fans” seem to think.
Right? I guess Arizona and Purdue need to fold up their athletic programs too. who's to say we don't win our first game had we been rightfully put in the tourney? Technically FDU shouldn't even be in it, But I am thrilled for both them and PU.
 
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RUPete

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Right? I guess Arizona and Purdue need to fold up their athletic programs too. who's to say we don't win our first game had we been rightfully put in the tourney? Technically FDU shouldn't even be in it, But I am thrilled for both them and PU.
Exactly and same here about FDU and PU. I’m really enjoying this tournament after starting out not wanting to watch at all.
 

bac2therac

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He ain’t wrong and though this board refuses to admit it NJ pop is having a bit of a laugh at the landscape of NJ hoops. Same vibe in eastern PA but with a pinch of Penn St superiority complex.

The accomplishments of these teams really put RUs accomplishments or lack there of from a national perspective and not old Rutgers community low bar expectations perspective in view.

This is a ******** post.

Pikiell took the program from complete *** to ncaa contender with 3 appearances
 

#1 RUFan

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Hats off to FDU, well played and well deserved win. I didn't see Purdue winning it all. Short of Edey, they're one dimensional if the rest of the team is off. No B1G refs to bail them out and keep it close. It's debatable, but would FDU be able to hold up in the grind of a B1G slate? And I'm not by any means taking away their win. But the B1G is their own worst enemy. Horrible favoritism by the refs toward one team or the other as well as not as athletic as some teams or conferences. Purdue looked slow and got outworked period.
 
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S_Janowski

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He ain’t wrong and though this board refuses to admit it NJ pop is having a bit of a laugh at the landscape of NJ hoops. Same vibe in eastern PA but with a pinch of Penn St superiority complex.

The accomplishments of these teams really put RUs accomplishments or lack there of from a national perspective and not old Rutgers community low bar expectations perspective in view.

Accomplishments of these teams?

Like beating Purdue, which Rutgers has done multiple times? LOL.

A vast majority of Rutgers basketball fans do not have low expectations. We’re just realistic and have an IQ above a level to recognize Pikiell has done a magnificent job, and still has more work to do.

Again - St. Peter’s and FDU have nothing to do with Rutgers accomplishments…as much as you and Jerry want to relate them to each other.
 
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This is a ******** post.

Pikiell took the program from complete *** to ncaa contender with 3 appearances
I know people dont wanna believe this but pikiell taking us from *** to bubble team within 4 years isnt like this crazy accomplishment. Rutgers fan were just warped mentally due to hears of horrific hires. And frankly even by rutgers standards what pike did isnt like this statue worthy accomplishment. Lets go back 3 decades

Bob Wenzel takes over for Craig littlepage who went 8-21, 8-20 and 7-22 in his 3 years. Wenzel has Rutgers dancing his first year.

Gary Waters takes over for kevin bannon who left the program in a very poor spot. Waters has the team as first team out by his 3rd year.

Then fres hill, mike rice and eddie jordan came along.

But we need to stop pretending what pike has done here is like this insane accomplishment. Its not that hard to become a bubble team after 4 years. Look around the p6. How many programs havent at least reached the bubble in the past 5 years? Not many
 
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bac2therac

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I know people dont wanna believe this but pikiell taking us from *** to bubble team within 4 years isnt like this crazy accomplishment. Rutgers fan were just warped mentally due to hears of horrific hires. And frankly even by rutgers standards what pike did isnt like this statue worthy accomplishment. Lets go back 3 decades

Bob Wenzel takes over for Craig littlepage who went 8-21, 8-20 and 7-22 in his 3 years. Wenzel has Rutgers dancing his first year.

Gary Waters takes over for kevin bannon who left the program in a very poor spot. Waters has the team as first team out by his 3rd year.

Then fres hill, mike rice and eddie jordan came along.

But we need to stop pretending what pike has done here is like this insane accomplishment. Its not that hard to become a bubble team after 4 years. Look around the p6. How many programs havent at least reached the bubble in the past 5 years? Not many

Dude i suffered through the 90s 00s 10s

You truly have no idea how bad it was here

Your examples make zero sense sense at all. Wenzel won but then went south quickly. Bannon did nothing. Waters had was up and down and never made the ncaa. Hill was garbage. Rice struggled even before the scandal. Jordan a disaster. Program lowest in the country. Pike miracle worker. The last 4 seaeson consistently there
 
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Dude i suffered through the 90s 00s 10s

You truly have no idea how bad it was here

Your examples make zero sense sense at all. Wenzel won but then went south quickly. Bannon did nothing. Waters had was up and down and never made the ncaa. Hill was garbage. Rice struggled even before the scandal. Jordan a disaster. Program lowest in the country. Pike miracle worker. The last 4 seaeson consistently there
Its just not that hard to get from bad to bubble when youre in a p6

This offseason georgetown is hiring a guy for a big complete ground up rebuild. Do you think theyll go from bad to bubble within 4 years? That head man will have alot less at their disposal than RU too keep in mind
 

scarletrat

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No **** there is no football money.
congrats to FDU and feel for Purdue
Carino yet again with small mind thinking….he can’t be this naive or stubborn to where college athletics has been recently and where it is going.
Big East is a dinosaur, and sits at the kids bball only table.
 
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I know people dont wanna believe this but pikiell taking us from *** to bubble team within 4 years isnt like this crazy accomplishment. Rutgers fan were just warped mentally due to hears of horrific hires. And frankly even by rutgers standards what pike did isnt like this statue worthy accomplishment. Lets go back 3 decades

Bob Wenzel takes over for Craig littlepage who went 8-21, 8-20 and 7-22 in his 3 years. Wenzel has Rutgers dancing his first year.

Gary Waters takes over for kevin bannon who left the program in a very poor spot. Waters has the team as first team out by his 3rd year.

Then fres hill, mike rice and eddie jordan came along.

But we need to stop pretending what pike has done here is like this insane accomplishment. Its not that hard to become a bubble team after 4 years. Look around the p6. How many programs havent at least reached the bubble in the past 5 years? Not many

No one even cared about basketball when we were in school. Now the RAC sells out. Give me a break.

Also, wow beating Purdue? Not like Rutgers has beaten them repeatedly or anything.

Everyone knows we were robbed this year. Before we were in twice and would have been a third but for COVID.

It's a ridiculous comparison just to generate polemic.
 
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If and when B1G and the other big boys leave the NCAA and create their own tournament that gets all the attention it's going to be so delicious.

Yes, football and TV money drove the bus and it drove RU to not only bball success but to the big boy table, and all the strum und drang in the world won't change RU will be sitting there when the p5 has its own tournament and the little parochials stare at their shoes.
 

S_Janowski

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Its just not that hard to get from bad to bubble when youre in a p6

This offseason georgetown is hiring a guy for a big complete ground up rebuild. Do you think theyll go from bad to bubble within 4 years? That head man will have alot less at their disposal than RU too keep in mind

1) We weren’t just bad, we were one of the worst teams/programs in division 1 ball

2) The head man at Georgetown will not have less at their disposal when Pikiell took over this program lol. Stop acting like we had a practice facility when Pikiell took over or that anyone cared about Rutgers basketball. Georgetown is a basketball only school and has a ton of history when it comes to basketball.
 
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1) We weren’t just bad, we were one of the worst teams/programs in division 1 ball

2) The head man at Georgetown will not have less at their disposal when Pikiell took over this program lol. Stop acting like we had a practice facility when Pikiell took over or that anyone cared about Rutgers basketball. Georgetown is a basketball only school and has a ton of history when it comes to basketball.

We are all around the same age. He knows quite well what the change has been.

There are watch parties in Hoboken now for basketball and they are loaded with alums in their early 20s who are die hards. That did not happen 10 years ago (understandably so). The crowd for that ND game last year was absolutely insane.

That's not to say the program is perfect but to say it isn't a massive improvement and something to be proud of, just flat out wrong. That is because of Pikiell.
 

biazza38

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Our basketball team was sharing a practice facility with basically every other sport besides football.
To continue to belittle where this program has come from to where we are now is insane.
We’ve dealt with naked free throws, a coach yelling at baseball umpires, “flip flops are for fa**ots,” a coach that didn’t believe in boxing out, and now that we finally have someone who has made us relevant in a positive way we have a rogue lunatic who doesn’t think it’s much of an accomplishment.
Is Pikiell national coach of the year? No
But I will take where we are now and I’m hopeful for the future.
Yes, we need to run a better offense and yea we need shooters. Jesus
 

RUBlackout

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Its just not that hard to get from bad to bubble when youre in a p6

This offseason georgetown is hiring a guy for a big complete ground up rebuild. Do you think theyll go from bad to bubble within 4 years? That head man will have alot less at their disposal than RU too keep in mind
Go back to Real Estate. You have ZERO clue about basketball and the inner workings of how it works.
If fact, you should go find a new team to root for.
Rutgers was a LAUGHING STOCK in basketball with many losing years. It wasn't just the losses but how we lost(Go back and Look at the Louisville game under Jordan).
On top of all that, we had naked free throw shooting and a maniac coach who got dismissed.
What Pike has done to date is nothing short of a miracle for many who followed this program over the years.
I get people want to raise expectations now that we have seen some winning season but it still take times to get the right players in the system to take it to the next level which is on the way. Pike accomplished this with lower rated players and got the most out of them.
 
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Go back to Real Estate. You have ZERO clue about basketball and the inner workings of how it works.
If fact, you should go find a new team to root for.
Rutgers was a LAUGHING STOCK in basketball with many losing years. It wasn't just the losses but how we lost(Go back and Look at the Louisville game under Jordan).
On top of all that, we had naked free throw shooting and a maniac coach who got dismissed.
What Pike has done to date is nothing short of a miracle for many who followed this program over the years.
I get people want to raise expectations now that we have seen some winning season but it still take times to get the right players in the system to take it to the next level which is on the way. Pike accomplished this with lower rated players and got the most out of them.
your blood pressure must be very high , you get so riled up a lot

EDIT: just a friendly way of saying, don’t take things so personal here
 
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1) We weren’t just bad, we were one of the worst teams/programs in division 1 ball

2) The head man at Georgetown will not have less at their disposal when Pikiell took over this program lol. Stop acting like we had a practice facility when Pikiell took over or that anyone cared about Rutgers basketball. Georgetown is a basketball only school and has a ton of history when it comes to basketball.
Pikiell in year one had concrete plans on the new facility. You guys gotta stop pretending like pike worked a miracle and did it with nothing lol
 

Scarlet Shack

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For me im rooting against fdu so i dont have to hear the hot takes from our trash nj nedia

Same as last year with St peters

This is exaxtly what wrong with the media arojnd here

Why did what St. Peter’s do last year have anything to do with Rutgers or seton hall

Great for St. Peter’s , no reflection on anyone else

Same with Princeton and FDU….in the last 48 hours

It’s the media folks …great discord, jealousy and dislike in order to get clicks , eyeballs and therefore revenue

Rutgers beating number one Purdue in the last two years should not be a swipe against anyone else …

Jerry carino and Brian Francesca …did their jobs and just know that’s what they do …making news stories when one doesn’t exist to get clicks