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SirScarlet

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I know people dont wanna believe this but pikiell taking us from *** to bubble team within 4 years isnt like this crazy accomplishment. Rutgers fan were just warped mentally due to hears of horrific hires. And frankly even by rutgers standards what pike did isnt like this statue worthy accomplishment. Lets go back 3 decades

Bob Wenzel takes over for Craig littlepage who went 8-21, 8-20 and 7-22 in his 3 years. Wenzel has Rutgers dancing his first year.

Gary Waters takes over for kevin bannon who left the program in a very poor spot. Waters has the team as first team out by his 3rd year.

Then fres hill, mike rice and eddie jordan came along.

But we need to stop pretending what pike has done here is like this insane accomplishment. Its not that hard to become a bubble team after 4 years. Look around the p6. How many programs havent at least reached the bubble in the past 5 years? Not many
A swinggggg and miss again by you

This is a monumental accomplishment. There's a reason no legit coach would touch this job and hurley wanted 7 years

Get your **** together man...your takes get worse as you grow older
 
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I know people dont wanna believe this but pikiell taking us from *** to bubble team within 4 years isnt like this crazy accomplishment. Rutgers fan were just warped mentally due to hears of horrific hires. And frankly even by rutgers standards what pike did isnt like this statue worthy accomplishment. Lets go back 3 decades

Bob Wenzel takes over for Craig littlepage who went 8-21, 8-20 and 7-22 in his 3 years. Wenzel has Rutgers dancing his first year.

Gary Waters takes over for kevin bannon who left the program in a very poor spot. Waters has the team as first team out by his 3rd year.

Then fres hill, mike rice and eddie jordan came along.

But we need to stop pretending what pike has done here is like this insane accomplishment. It’s not that hard to become a bubble team after 4 years. Look around the p6. How many programs havent at least reached the bubble in the past 5 years? Not many
Acting like we were only a bubble team once is kills your entire silly thesis. Go sell some condos 😂
 

RUBlackout

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Georgetown has wealthy alumni who rabidly support the program. As long as they hire the right coach they will be competitive again.
That goes exactly to @S_Janowski post...with NIL and the transfer portal any team can reload pretty quickly compared to 7-8yrs ago. Rutgers did not have this advantage back then. Georgetown also has more history than Rutgers and a wealthy alumni base to get it back to relevance, which again we did not have(support aspect).
With the right hire they can quickly right the ship
 
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anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy

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Georgetown today is a way better job than Rutgers when Pikiell took over.

We get it - you don’t like Pikiell.

Really wish you devoted more of this energy over on the football board because your basketball takes are mostly horrid.
False it is not.

RU build 7 years ago vs gtown rebuild today are extremely similar. Gtown may be harder though because the new coach is coming in being left zero players. Say what you want about Corey but he was a very talented guard.

Pike didn't inherit a ton but he did get more than the gtown coach will.
1) Brand new facility to sell
2) Corey, Mike Williams, Nigel Johnson, Jon Laurent, Deshawn Freeman, Doorson (will the gtown coach be left with better than this?)

The problem is you have zero perspective and just think that no other school in the country will ever have to rebuild their program lol
 

S_Janowski

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False it is not.

RU build 7 years ago vs gtown rebuild today are extremely similar. Gtown may be harder though because the new coach is coming in being left zero players. Say what you want about Corey but he was a very talented guard.

Pike didn't inherit a ton but he did get more than the gtown coach will.
1) Brand new facility to sell
2) Corey, Mike Williams, Nigel Johnson, Jon Laurent, Deshawn Freeman, Doorson (will the gtown coach be left with better than this?)

The problem is you have zero perspective and just think that no other school in the country will ever have to rebuild their program lol

Thanks for joining back in the thread.

Now if you would kindly respond to my last most recent post in this thread with you.

Convenient you’re responding to a post way earlier in the thread lolol.
 

RU-ROCS

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He references Purdue in the article but I think he’s taking a swipe at RU Hoops


Lack of football money is not very relevant. Some of the very biggest spenders in NCAA basketball are in the football-less Big East, where UConn, Xavier and Marquette all spend top-dollar and more than elite programs like Kansas. In fact, UConn’s budget is twice as much as the average Big 10 team.

 
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The reality around here is a large segment of "Rutgers fans" don't know anything other than losing and it's baked into their DNA. Any form of winning is disputed because it just can't be. Just as losing is habit forming, so is winning. It's going to take several more years for the doubters to start having more faith in Rutgers.

It's amazing how often I read the hate posted here by Rutgers fans about Rutgers. If the programs piss you off that much, find another school to cheer. And don't give me that weak answer of being critical. Being critical and downright hateful are two different things.
 
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S_Janowski

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My response is identical. NIL actually makes the gtown job even harder lol. Youre trying too hard again

Hahaha it’s funny how you’re incapable of having a coherent conversation when you’re dead wrong.

I’ll repeat one more time for you:

- NIL didn’t exist 7 years ago
- Transfer portal didn’t exist 7 years ago

The fact that Georgetown even has the ability to take advantage of these 2 luxuries (when Rutgers didn’t 7 years ago) proves how it’s an easier rebuild.

That’s not even considering what a horrid program Rutgers was 7 years ago where every coach failed and the last semblance of success was in 1976.

Meanwhile Georgetown is a basketball only school with loads of history including a National championship, 5 Final Fours, 9 Elite Eight appearances and like 30 NCAA tournament appearances.

Take the L my dude.
 
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anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy

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Hahaha it’s funny how you’re incapable of having a coherent conversation when you’re dead wrong.

I’ll repeat one more time for you:

- NIL didn’t exist 7 years ago
- Transfer portal didn’t exist 7 years ago

The fact that Georgetown even has the ability to take advantage of these 2 luxuries (when Rutgers didn’t 7 years ago) proves how it’s an easier rebuild.

That’s not even considering what a horrid program Rutgers was 7 years ago where every coach failed and the last semblance of success was in 1976.

Meanwhile Georgetown is a basketball only school with loads of history including a National championship, 5 Final Fours, 9 Elite Eight appearances and like 30 NCAA tournament appearances.

Take the L my dude.
Why did nil not help ewing then? The alums just refused to support one of their best players of all time but theyll support a stranger more?

Your portal argument holds water, it does certainly help. But you ignore the other side of the portal where this coach is gonna be left with no players and has to put together a roster from scratch.

And oh yeah, youre dismissing the fact that georgetown hasnt been relevant in nearly a decade. Recruits dont care that you made one final 4 in the past 40 years LOL. With this thought process then syracuse football is a highly thought of program.
 
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SirScarlet

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Hahaha it’s funny how you’re incapable of having a coherent conversation when you’re dead wrong.

I’ll repeat one more time for you:

- NIL didn’t exist 7 years ago
- Transfer portal didn’t exist 7 years ago

The fact that Georgetown even has the ability to take advantage of these 2 luxuries (when Rutgers didn’t 7 years ago) proves how it’s an easier rebuild.

That’s not even considering what a horrid program Rutgers was 7 years ago where every coach failed and the last semblance of success was in 1976.

Meanwhile Georgetown is a basketball only school with loads of history including a National championship, 5 Final Fours, 9 Elite Eight appearances and like 30 NCAA tournament appearances.

Take the L my dude.
i dont know why you bother man

even when he's dead wrong and the entire world is dunking on him (Eugene cant dribble! just one of so many examples) he cant say he's wrong and has to caveat with things like demanding clips showing how he could dribble to try and say he was right in his assessment. the guys a clown show.

you are wasting your time
 

S_Janowski

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Why did nil not help ewing then? The alums just refused to support one of their best players of all time but theyll support a stranger more?

Your portal argument holds water, it does certainly help. But you ignore the other side of the portal where this coach is gonna be left with no players and has to put together a roster from scratch.

And oh yeah, youre dismissing the fact that georgetown hasnt been relevant in nearly a decade. Recruits dont care that you made one final 4 in the past 40 years LOL. With this thought process then syracuse football is a highly thought of program.

NIL came too late for Georgetown under Ewing. The writing was already on the wall for him by the time NIL came about.

In no way am I saying it’s going to be easy to rebuild Georgetown.

I just think the Rutgers rebuild 7 years ago was a much taller task.

Now if both programs were horrendous today and looking for new coaches…Rutgers would far and away be an easier rebuild.

But I think we quickly forget how different the college landscape was only 7 years ago and how horrid the RU program/job was.
 
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anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy

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NIL came too late for Georgetown under Ewing. The writing was already on the wall for him by the time NIL came about.

In no way am I saying it’s going to be easy to rebuild Georgetown.

I just think the Rutgers rebuild 7 years ago was a much taller task.

Now if both programs were horrendous today and looking for new coaches…Rutgers would far and away be an easier rebuild.

But I think we quickly forget how different the college landscape was only 7 years ago and how horrid the RU program/job was.
I think arguing which rebuild is harder, Rutgers 7 years ago or gtown today is splitting hairs. Both are tough.