One Charlotte 4A high school will not field a varsity football team this season
charlotte team not fielding a team this year
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I believe Garinger will be fielding a JV team only.
So Butler, Catholic, Indy, Rocky River, Providence, East Meck, now need games if anyone is still looking, especially Catholic who only had nine games already, that puts them at 8 now.
So this is what we have become. Schools with 1700+ kids not being able for put together a Varsity or JV squad. Sad
Guys here is something you need to think about. How much longer will it take for NC to get an IMG academy in NC or hell every state in the US, to where they take the top 30-40 players in HS football Allow them to get paid sponsors like in college and just play other IGM type schools in the US. That is coming soon my friends. With transfers HS sports has become so much have and have not that it is ripe for this next step to happen
South Carolina already has several private schools like this that play in the SCHSL and compete against public schools. Tough to match up with these type of teams (not impossible) but tough none the less.
Believe that Combine Academy in Lincolnton is potentially gonna be the closest. They don’t do football yet, but they’re a powerhouse in hoops and baseball I believe. If they expand into football, that’ll probably be the closest we got to an IMG (at least near my area)
Garinger should let all their 11th graders play Jv this year …. It’s a shame what CMS has allowed to happen .. Vance and Mallard creek , Myers park have 120+ kids and east meck , garinger and others can barely find kids bc of transfers
NCHSAA should have put the rules on Total Lock down long ago. Now everyone goes running after one high school because of their championship and puts a hurting on Garinger's football program....
Let me guess....it's an economy issue right? LOL
The parents chose to move because Larry's Air Conditioning Appliance Warehouse is hiring correct? LOL
I blame the NCHSAA for not having their ducks in order - The government is already foolish enough starting at the top - The White House.
Now Garinger has to suffer some cray cray in Charlotte....
Saw Todd Ellis and Greensboro Page come down and play Garinger in the playoffs at Memorial Stadium around 1985.
It's happening every where in terms of recruiting. There is a school in Cumberland Co that has been called out by other coaches and no one has done a thing. They literally make posts about players should come play for them. The top player at one of their neighboring schools just jump ship week before the season and this kid is a d1 recruit. In terms of Garinger it starts at the top. If ball is not a priority then this is what you get. The kids suffer who want to play.
Garinger has had 4 different Coaches the last 7 years. The new coach is Shon Galloway, who was the DL coach at Mallard Creek. Very sound and efficient coach, with great communication skills. If he can't get them back up and running. I don't know if they will every get back anytime soon.
Demographics were once a major stumbling block for football at Garinger. Very large Asian and Latino student body and they are much less likely to play football.
I don’t mind seeing Garinger being just JV because to me: they gotta do something to build confidence and build that program from scratch anyway and I believe if slow build it up then they could win some games and I do believe Garinger has talent but they need to keeping them there instead of Vance, mallard creek n others!
Wishing Garinger all the best!
Wishing Garinger all the best!
From Richmond to Charlotte= That is blamed on economics because parents found a better job
From Garinger to the neighboring school= We will blame that on coaches
So what is it from Mallard Creek to Julius L. Chamber= Who should ultimately hold the blame?
Some dont understand the true issues at Garinger. In the mid to late 90s Garinger was bad, but it was coaching bad and neighborhood assignment bad. Shuford had them really good for a while and then he went to Butler when it opened. The opening of Butler, Vance and Waddell really changed the assignment plan in CMS sending Garinger students all the way to Butler, and West Charlotte students to Butler/Indy.
If Garinger pulled truly from the neighborhoods surrounding the school they would have been an athletic powerhouse with Hampshire Hills, Briarwood, Hidden Valley, and Shannon Park. Those athletes went to West Charlotte, and Independence. Once the busing decision took full effect some of those students went to Garinger and you could see Garinger getting better in football and semi competitive. Then the assignments changed again with the opening of Rocky River/Ardrey Kell/Hough/Berry caused another demographic shift, Taking those students away and sending them to Rocky River, Independence, and Butler. Then Garinger got the Central Ave, area, and it was all over for Basketball, and football surprisingly soccer is not good as it could be. CMS punished the older schools trying to appease the suburbs, raise minority test scores, and to stem white flight. East Meck, Garinger, West Charlotte, South Meck, North Meck, Harding, Indy, Olympic and West Meck all lost key assignment zones, and were assigned a disproportionate amount of low performing students, while having the worst facilities in CMS. Garinger has no realistic hope of being able to field a great foot ball team with its assignment zone and demographic make up. The only way is for Tommy Knotts or Palmieri to go there as they will get players there. NO offense to Galloway as he is a good coach! With player movement the way it is in Charlotte, you need a big time proven championship type coach to even have a chance, and that comes with a player influx with the coach.
If you are coaching at any of the older CMS schools you will have more issues than the newer ones but no one talks about that divide.
If Garinger pulled truly from the neighborhoods surrounding the school they would have been an athletic powerhouse with Hampshire Hills, Briarwood, Hidden Valley, and Shannon Park. Those athletes went to West Charlotte, and Independence. Once the busing decision took full effect some of those students went to Garinger and you could see Garinger getting better in football and semi competitive. Then the assignments changed again with the opening of Rocky River/Ardrey Kell/Hough/Berry caused another demographic shift, Taking those students away and sending them to Rocky River, Independence, and Butler. Then Garinger got the Central Ave, area, and it was all over for Basketball, and football surprisingly soccer is not good as it could be. CMS punished the older schools trying to appease the suburbs, raise minority test scores, and to stem white flight. East Meck, Garinger, West Charlotte, South Meck, North Meck, Harding, Indy, Olympic and West Meck all lost key assignment zones, and were assigned a disproportionate amount of low performing students, while having the worst facilities in CMS. Garinger has no realistic hope of being able to field a great foot ball team with its assignment zone and demographic make up. The only way is for Tommy Knotts or Palmieri to go there as they will get players there. NO offense to Galloway as he is a good coach! With player movement the way it is in Charlotte, you need a big time proven championship type coach to even have a chance, and that comes with a player influx with the coach.
If you are coaching at any of the older CMS schools you will have more issues than the newer ones but no one talks about that divide.
Yea Donny was a
Stop watching Fox news all day. All it will do is make you angry
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News is a HUGE distraction. I agree - It makes us angry, judgmental, and unity gets lost. News is like the Devil - it's out to Kill, Steal, and Destroy.
Soon with NIL i think you will see the top kids sign their LOI before their senior season and then not play. Just train for college to protect themselves and that $$$
So once again,
From Richmond to Charlotte= That is blamed on economics because parents found a better job
From Garinger to the neighboring school= We will blame that on coaches(Confirmed by Bigdadd11103)
So what is it from Mallard Creek to Julius L. Chamber= Who should ultimately hold the blame?
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I remember back in 2000-2004 Garinger had serious size and athletes walking the halls. I used to ask them why didn’t they play football but they weren’t interested. They were really good at basketball during some of those years.
Until the NCHAA nails a huge lid on this recruiting fiasco this is what’s gonna take place. Schools can’t field teams so their money is gonna take a big hit. Super teams being created is not good for high school football. 
Believe it or not, Garinger won the very first 4A football championship in NC, in the year the school opened in 1960. Prior to that 3A was the highest classification. They were strong for a few years, and then the tires went flat and the wheels came off.Until the NCHAA nails a huge lid on this recruiting fiasco this is what’s gonna take place. Schools can’t field teams so their money is gonna take a big hit. Super teams being created is not good for high school football.
Never going to happen. Look we all know one political party is big on school choice, charter school and vouchers, and as long as that persists kids will transfer and you will see more of this. So might as well get used to it.Until the NCHAA nails a huge lid on this recruiting fiasco this is what’s gonna take place. Schools can’t field teams so their money is gonna take a big hit. Super teams being created is not good for high school football.
Dwight Clark who made “The Catch” is a Garinger alum. As is former Red Sox manager Grady Little I believe.
Don't expect the NCHSAA, or quite frankly anyone to put a stop to player movement.
I don't like the use the "R" word, but call it what it is. To be brutally honest, I only think the ability for players to move around from school to school, or better yet, have private schoolers play with public schoolers, or homeschoolers play with public schoolers is only going to get worse. We've only seen the tip of the iceburg.
I don't like the use the "R" word, but call it what it is. To be brutally honest, I only think the ability for players to move around from school to school, or better yet, have private schoolers play with public schoolers, or homeschoolers play with public schoolers is only going to get worse. We've only seen the tip of the iceburg.
Yes, that is correct. In fact, Garinger was a quite formidable team until about the early-to-mid 1990's.
It was a smart move for Galloway. They will never be a powerhouse but in order to be mildly competitive your gonna need to take a step back to go forward. Fielding a varsity team that gets its brains beat in every Friday doesnt advance anything. Take a solid year to get some 9th and 10th graders in the weight room. Maybe a win or two and start moving forward. Then see what happens.
Sucks for the conference teams that lose a game to be sure but in the end how valuable is the Garinger game anyhow?
Sucks for the conference teams that lose a game to be sure but in the end how valuable is the Garinger game anyhow?
This is the deal now. Social media accounts of coaches are de facto recruiting tools and have been for awhile.
I will say it again. If your a HC in a metropolitan area and havent figured out how to recruit kids ( and maybe more importantly not lose yours) your not winning more than 5-6 games a year. There are 3-4 teams that are absolutely stacked with talent from other places, there are a couple of middle of the road squads and then everyone else. It actually models the College Football dynamic now. 5 maybe 6 teams that can win it, a dozen conference title winners and everyone else.
I am sure you are aware the parents of the Richmond players initiated the move to Charlotte.
To add to this. Garinger was the former Charlotte Central High School. The school moved from what is now CPCC. The original and oldest building at CPCC was Garinger Hall and later renamed Central High Building.
That's what I said
From Garinger to the neighboring school= We will blame that on coaches(Confirmed by Bigdadd11103)
NOW THERE'S ONE MORE
Kids transferring from Mallard Creek to Julius L. Chamber= Who should ultimately hold the blame?
I am not sure if it was economics. An earlier post was many families move to Charlotte for better and more employment options. No idea if that is the reason they moved.