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Seton75

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I feel bad for Dar. He's in an impossible situation as he is getting very little time and he can't show what he can do offensively. Defensively he's still a terror but with Rivera now healthy he's the odd man out in the ten player rotation.
He made an awful pass at halfcourt for a pick 6 a few games ago, Sha went nuts on him and time really cut. And Rivera making the most of the opportunity. I still think Dar will get some time eventually and give us a boost.
 

Bud Boomer

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Foul calls are only reviewable if it involves a flagrant foul. That is the only instance where a foul can be assessed after the fact.

Challenges/reviews are not used to overrule foul calls so whether Dar was fouled or not doesn't matter at that point.
I do wonder that if the refs see a clear foul on replay that they cannot overturn, do they (consciously or subconsciously) look to even it out later?
 
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Halldan

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Refs and umpires are specifically taught under no circumstances make up for a bad call. But they're human and I agree that some, not all, just might lean in a 50/50 situation to the aggrieved party.
 

hbkmyr

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I feel bad for Dar. He's in an impossible situation as he is getting very little time and he can't show what he can do offensively. Defensively he's still a terror but with Rivera now healthy he's the odd man out in the ten player rotation.
I can’t feel bad for him. He didn’t lose minutes due to circumstances out of his control. He had a shot, didn’t play great, and was outperformed by another player. If he wants more minutes he can earn them. That may cold but if you’re getting paid that’s just my thought.
 

PirateBlue08

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They knew they blew that call. That’s why they had such a long discussion as it was obvious it went off Dar.
It should have been a 2 second discussion, it was blatantly obvious it was off Dar. I can see long deliberations on difficult calls, especially in spots that will highly impact the game down the stretch, but the amount of time wasted kills the game momentum.

Donny Marshall is consistent at calling that out on the broadcasts and he's right on.
 

Halldan

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I can’t feel bad for him. He didn’t lose minutes due to circumstances out of his control. He had a shot, didn’t play great, and was outperformed by another player. If he wants more minutes he can earn them. That may cold but if you’re getting paid that’s just my thought.
Thing is I thought after a difficult start he was playing much better. But for some reason he never got a chance to build on that and now knowing that he's not getting much PT to prove himself, 4-5 MPG, he is feeling the pressure to do something offensively and that is not conducive to showing your wares.

Still he plays hard and is an excellent defender. But in his last season short of an injury, as an individual he's not going out with a bang,
 
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Pirates94

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I don’t think they’re allowed to retroactively call the foul. They can only review who the ball went out off of.
I don’t think that’s correct. “
Yes, fouls
can be challenged in NCAA basketball for specific situations, primarily related to out-of-bounds”
 

ivyhillpark63

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I feel bad for Dar. He's in an impossible situation as he is getting very little time and he can't show what he can do offensively. Defensively he's still a terror but with Rivera now healthy he's the odd man out in the ten player rotation.
How about godswill? Where's he fit in?
 

Pirates94

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Yes he most certainly did, but a moot point. Can't all it after the review unfortunately.
I believe this is incorrect


“Yes, fouls
can be challenged in NCAA basketball for specific situations, primarily related to out-of-bounds”
I feel bad for Dar. He's in an impossible situation as he is getting very little time and he can't show what he can do offensively. Defensively he's still a terror but with Rivera now healthy he's the odd man out in the ten player rotation.
Rivera has looked better of late but Seems like he’s limited offensively. Dar seems to have a better upside.
 

Halldan

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How about godswill? Where's he fit in?
Obviously another problem. The issue is having 12-13 potential quality Big East players. You can't play them all and it does create some concerns.

Imagine if Felton didn't go down. Sha loves him and probably would have given him minutes. Minutes, I personally don't think were deserved. But he's a good kid, plays hard in practice and Holloway rewards those type of players.
 
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hbkmyr

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Thing is I thought after a difficult start he was playing much better. But for some reason he never got a chance to build on that and now knowing that he's not getting much PT to prove himself, 4-5 MPG, he is feeling the pressure to do something offensively and that is not conducive to showing your wares.

Still he plays hard and is an excellent defender. But in his last season short of an injury, as an individual he's not going out with a bang,
There was a play in the 2nd half he was wide open under the basket. Payne clearly saw him, but opted to take a much more difficult shot instead of passing. I don’t know if that’s telling or not. Maybe he’s not practicing well.
 

radecicco

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I believe this is incorrect


“Yes, fouls
can be challenged in NCAA basketball for specific situations, primarily related to out-of-bounds”

Rivera has looked better of late but Seems like he’s limited offensively. Dar seems to have a better upside.
With alll due respect, what upside? He’s in his 4th year and Rivera has clearly earned the back up PF role. I do like Dar for his energy and bouncyness on D in short bursts.
 

Halldan

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hbkmyr

I remember that play and you are correct. The higher percentage play would have been to dump it to Dar. That said, I don't think the layup was that difficult so Payne shooting wasn't that big of a deal as I saw it.
 

hallwins

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Thing is I thought after a difficult start he was playing much better. But for some reason he never got a chance to build on that and now knowing that he's not getting much PT to prove himself, 4-5 MPG, he is feeling the pressure to do something offensively and that is not conducive to showing your wares.

Still he plays hard and is an excellent defender. But in his last season short of an injury, as an individual he's not going out with a bang,
Finally hit a few 3s and did not see much time after.
 
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ivyhillpark63

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Obviously another problem. The issue is having 12-13 potential quality Big East players. You can't play them all and it does create some concerns.

Imagine if Felton didn't go down. Sha loves him and probably would have given him minutes. Minutes, I personally don't think were deserved. But he's a good kid, plays hard in practice and Holloway rewards those type of players.
I was against godswill redshirting but may now be his best option. Obviously he must agree to it and be willing to come back next year..
 

mbraue

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Dar gave some good minutes the other night. No points but he is around the ball. Still feel he has a role to play in a long season.
Coming into the season he had the best 3-point shooting percentage on the team. He is currently 8-8 from the charity stripe. I think he will help us in several games at some point in a noticeable way. He's got talent and is engaged with his teammates and accepting his role.
 
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hallwins

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I believe this is incorrect


“Yes, fouls
can be challenged in NCAA basketball for specific situations, primarily related to out-of-bounds”

Rivera has looked better of late but Seems like he’s limited offensively. Dar seems to have a better upside.
Rivera rebounds, particularly on the offensive glass, can face the basket from 15 feet out and shoot a gap, had a great assist to Hines for a dunk v. Marquette and is now looking very smooth on his free throws. He had a wrist injury that cost him. Does he have limitations, yes. Who doesn't? But he is a legitimate contributor. Not sure we win Marquette game without his contribution.
 
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