Daily Collegian Article On Starrocci Allegations

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Carter is the winner of the Jesse Owen’s Big Ten male athlete of the year award. How does that happen if there is even a whisper of this being true?

CStars future could be wrecked because of this.

When stones are thrown the “pitchers” need to be as punished as much the accused if this is BS. I’m not picking sides and these allegations are horrible but if ur throwing u better be able to catch, too.

Posters on this site are guilty, too, for rushing to judgment. Trying to rationalize why it’s got to be true. WTF?

My god didn’t we learn from 2011?
 

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Carter is the winner of the Jesse Owen’s Big Ten male athlete of the year award. How does that happen if there is even a whisper of this being true?

CStars future could be wrecked because of this.

When stones are thrown the “pitchers” need to be as punished as much the accused if this is BS. I’m not picking sides and these allegations are horrible but if ur throwing u better be able to catch, too.

Posters on this site are guilty, too, for rushing to judgment. Trying to rationalize why it’s got to be true. WTF?

My god didn’t we learn from 2011?
By giving him that award the university is letting everyone know that they've not been notified about anything other than the theft.
 
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Yeah, having written HR manuals in the early days of the enlightened corporate sexual harassment movement, the standard system was turned on its head. You were guilty until proven innocent. Which, given the times, seemed like a reasonable alternative to the hypothetically huge problem. Except, when you co-opt the system of justice that we as humans have spent centuries creating to move beyond the rather medieval eye-for-an-eye historical alternative (Burn her, she's a witch! She turned me into a newt!), you've created a really slippery slope. The old adage, better ten guilty men go free than one innocent man suffer, exists for a reason, as painful as it may be to the aggrieved.


It's worse than that. HR is where sociopaths go to practice their malevolent craft with respectability.

About fifteen years ago, I inherited a bona-fide bat guano crazy employee. A former college cheerleader, she smoked herself into a reasonably decent facsimile of Margaret Hamilton's most famous character, sans the greenish hue.

One day, she really topped herself. Frustrated by some small matter, she "vented" by walking about the halls holding a banana as a faux gun, complete with "bang bang, pow, pow". When that didn't get the reaction she wanted, she began shaking it and making noises more like automated fire.

I called the employee help line and my boss, who asked me to update him on EAP's recommendations. I told him that they indicated that she exhibited 8 out of 10 "troubled" employee warning signs and that given the violent mimicry, should be required to undergo counseling as a condition of continued employment-however, since she didn't think she had a problem, the outcome wouldn't likely lead to improvement and for the moment, I should advise her of the inappropriateness of her "humor" and document the conversation, advising the chain of command,.

After the call, I was updating my boss and there was a knock on his office door. It was bat guano and she said "gentlemen, I just have one question. Is my sanity in question". (talk about the queen mother of Freudian slips), to which my boss responded that we were discussing technical matters.

A week later, the boss left for two weeks as he was getting married. She used the time to file a 9-page written sexual harassment complaint-and since the first interviewer was reading from the original-I could see that in her anger, Annie Bananny Oakley embossed the paper.

While it was completely fabricated-some of the complaints rose to the ridiculous. One was that I fell on her (not sexual harassment, and of course with me at about 250, she'd have needed an ambulance.). Since lunatics seek attention, she couldn't resist the most insane but elaborate flourishes such as I "mounted" her-in the office.

Three months later, I was told that interviews and a search of records indicated that no evidence was found to support the allegations. I was informed that for my own protection; I should never allow myself to be alone with that employee.

The letter I received said that no evidence was found to support the allegations, I wasn't found "innocent". In addition, it stated this letter would be retained in my permanent file for the duration of my employment and it could be considered in any future investigations. There was no possibility of pursuing action against the lying sack for insubordination or abuse of process.

I'm getting close to retirement; my good-bye letter will have a special section with my thoughts on HR.
 
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It's worse than that. HR is where sociopaths go to practice their malevolent craft with respectability.

About fifteen years ago, I inherited a bona-fide bat guano crazy employee. A former college cheerleader, she smoked herself into a reasonably decent facsimile of Margaret Hamilton's most famous character, sans the greenish hue.

One day, she really topped herself. Frustrated by some small matter, she "vented" by walking about the halls holding a banana as a faux gun, complete with "bang bang, pow, pow". When that didn't get the reaction she wanted, she began shaking it and making noises more like automated fire.

I called the employee help line and my boss, who asked me to update him on EAP's recommendations. I told him that they indicated that she exhibited 8 out of 10 "troubled" employee warning signs and that given the violent mimicry, should be required to undergo counseling as a condition of continued employment-however, since she didn't think she had a problem, the outcome wouldn't likely lead to improvement and for the moment, I should advise her of the inappropriateness of her "humor" and document the conversation, advising the chain of command,.

After the call, I was updating my boss and there was a knock on his office door. It was bat guano and she said "gentlemen, I just have one question. Is my sanity in question". (talk about the queen mother of Freudian slips), to which my boss responded that we were discussing technical matters.

A week later, the boss left for two weeks as he was getting married. She used the time to file a 9-page written sexual harassment complaint-and since the first interviewer was reading from the original-I could see that in her anger, Annie Bananny Oakley embossed the paper.

While it was completely fabricated-some of the complaints rose to the ridiculous. One was that I fell on her (not sexual harassment, and of course with me at about 250, she'd have needed an ambulance.). Since lunatics seek attention, she couldn't resist the most insane but elaborate flourishes such as I "mounted" her-in the office.

Three months later, I was told that interviews and a search of records indicated that no evidence was found to support the allegations. I was informed that for my own protection; I should never allow myself to be alone with that employee.

The letter I received said that no evidence was found to support the allegations, I wasn't found "innocent". In addition, it stated this letter would be retained in my permanent file for the duration of my employment and it could be considered in any future investigations. There was no possibility of pursuing action against the lying sack for insubordination or abuse of process.

I'm getting close to retirement; my good-bye letter will have a special section with my thoughts on HR.
Would you like to just copy and paste them my thoughts on the other HR? I'm sure it'll be appropriate for your needs...
 

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… About fifteen years ago, I inherited a bona-fide bat guano crazy employee. … She used the time to file a 9-page written sexual harassment complaint … she couldn't resist the most insane but elaborate flourishes such as I "mounted" her-in the office. …
On the plus side, at least she was female! 😅

LESTER: Well, what do you say I throw in a little sexual harassment charge to boot?
Brad LAUGHS.
BRAD: Against who?
LESTER Against you.
Brad stops laughing.

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On Mineo’s Facebook page, a frequent poster Wendi Keller who seems in the know said the PSU legal department interviewed the entire team already and not a single corroborated the Bartlett’s story. Sydney responded with she has several wrestlers who did and Wendi said something to the tune of they all said behind your (Bartlett) back they said that so you stop bugging them which you have been to every teammate for weeks.
 
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On Mineo’s Facebook page, a frequent poster Wendi Keller who seems in the know said the PSU legal department interviewed the entire team already and not a single corroborated the Bartlett’s story. Sydney responded with she has several wrestlers who did and Wendi said something to the tune of they all said behind your (Bartlett) back they said that so you stop bugging them which you have been to every teammate for weeks.
I’ve seen prior posts from her about other matters before Mineo kicked me off his page for disparaging the Ferraris (if disparaging means not being a total simp for those choads). She’s pretty clued in to both Penn State and Oklahoma State. She seemed pretty level-headed ((I.e. not some random Facebook ****-stirrer, troll, etc) from what I remember.
 

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It's worse than that. HR is where sociopaths go to practice their malevolent craft with respectability.

About fifteen years ago, I inherited a bona-fide bat guano crazy employee. A former college cheerleader, she smoked herself into a reasonably decent facsimile of Margaret Hamilton's most famous character, sans the greenish hue.

One day, she really topped herself. Frustrated by some small matter, she "vented" by walking about the halls holding a banana as a faux gun, complete with "bang bang, pow, pow". When that didn't get the reaction she wanted, she began shaking it and making noises more like automated fire.

I called the employee help line and my boss, who asked me to update him on EAP's recommendations. I told him that they indicated that she exhibited 8 out of 10 "troubled" employee warning signs and that given the violent mimicry, should be required to undergo counseling as a condition of continued employment-however, since she didn't think she had a problem, the outcome wouldn't likely lead to improvement and for the moment, I should advise her of the inappropriateness of her "humor" and document the conversation, advising the chain of command,.

After the call, I was updating my boss and there was a knock on his office door. It was bat guano and she said "gentlemen, I just have one question. Is my sanity in question". (talk about the queen mother of Freudian slips), to which my boss responded that we were discussing technical matters.

A week later, the boss left for two weeks as he was getting married. She used the time to file a 9-page written sexual harassment complaint-and since the first interviewer was reading from the original-I could see that in her anger, Annie Bananny Oakley embossed the paper.

While it was completely fabricated-some of the complaints rose to the ridiculous. One was that I fell on her (not sexual harassment, and of course with me at about 250, she'd have needed an ambulance.). Since lunatics seek attention, she couldn't resist the most insane but elaborate flourishes such as I "mounted" her-in the office.

Three months later, I was told that interviews and a search of records indicated that no evidence was found to support the allegations. I was informed that for my own protection; I should never allow myself to be alone with that employee.

The letter I received said that no evidence was found to support the allegations, I wasn't found "innocent". In addition, it stated this letter would be retained in my permanent file for the duration of my employment and it could be considered in any future investigations. There was no possibility of pursuing action against the lying sack for insubordination or abuse of process.

I'm getting close to retirement; my good-bye letter will have a special section with my thoughts on HR.
Someone needs to start a thread for crazy employee stories. I had one myself. She was young and new to the company. She was staying in a Bed & Breakfast owned by the boss, as was another new male employee. She complained to the boss that she was being sexually harassed by him, so the boss kicked him out. This was before everyone knew she was crazy and people believed her side of the story. (And this was long be sexual harassment would get you fired like it does today.) A friend of mine was a cop and he told me that she was cited for public urination downtown one night. Another time I had to take someone to the airport for an early flight (on like a Tuesday). We stopped at a local restaurant to grab a quick bite and there was the employee at the bar, very drunk. It was like 4:30 in the afternoon (and a Tuesday). There were other things but the last thing was that she stole a tuna fish sandwich from the cafeteria. She ended of resigning in lieu of termination. About 5 years later I got a reference call for her. I told the guy a lot of stories including the tuna fish sandwich. I only told him things that I knew to be true, not things like the sexual harassment allegation that may or may not be true. About a week later she called my office. (I hadn't spoken to her in about 5 years and I was at a completely different place of employment, so I have no idea how she got my number.) She just starts screaming at me for lying about her and telling me that she was going to get me. I told her that everything I said was true and hung up the phone.
 

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Someone needs to start a thread for crazy employee stories. I had one myself. She was young and new to the company. She was staying in a Bed & Breakfast owned by the boss, as was another new male employee. She complained to the boss that she was being sexually harassed by him, so the boss kicked him out. This was before everyone knew she was crazy and people believed her side of the story. (And this was long be sexual harassment would get you fired like it does today.) A friend of mine was a cop and he told me that she was cited for public urination downtown one night. Another time I had to take someone to the airport for an early flight (on like a Tuesday). We stopped at a local restaurant to grab a quick bite and there was the employee at the bar, very drunk. It was like 4:30 in the afternoon (and a Tuesday). There were other things but the last thing was that she stole a tuna fish sandwich from the cafeteria. She ended of resigning in lieu of termination. About 5 years later I got a reference call for her. I told the guy a lot of stories including the tuna fish sandwich. I only told him things that I knew to be true, not things like the sexual harassment allegation that may or may not be true. About a week later she called my office. (I hadn't spoken to her in about 5 years and I was at a completely different place of employment, so I have no idea how she got my number.) She just starts screaming at me for lying about her and telling me that she was going to get me. I told her that everything I said was true and hung up the phone.
"Someone needs to start a thread for crazy employee stories."

Exactly, then I can bypass them and go straight to the wrestling threads.
 

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An aspiring influencer with most likely thousands of paid for followers attempts to take down a bigger household name, not for altruistic reasons, but rather to help push their influencer status to greater heights.

It's a tale as old as social media. If it doesn't work, there will be more spousal verbal abuse videos.
As I said before, from talking to law-enforcement officers, most initial contact and complaints of sexual assault are false. This is officially contacting the police.
How true do you think most complaints are when they are made anonymously without contacting yhe poluce

the complaint against me was completely fabricated. The CYS complaint against my wife thirty years ago was.

This stuff is used as a weapon more often tham most know.
 
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An aspiring influencer with most likely thousands of paid for followers attempts to take down a bigger household name, not for altruistic reasons, but rather to help push their influencer status to greater heights.

It's a tale as old as social media. If it doesn't work, there will be more spousal verbal abuse videos.
^^^^^^^
This.
It has been blatantly obvious Starocci was a vehicle in use to attack the coaching staff.
 

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This one job I had was transferring notes to digital on computer and my co-worker would come up behind me and blow in my ear and start groping me. I reported her to the boss and he told me to work it out. I hid no idea how to gget it done so I told her I t old her too spot it. It eas really effecting mi werk. So I married her.
 

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This one job I had was transferring notes to digital on computer and my co-worker would come up behind me and blow in my ear and start groping me. I reported her to the boss and he told me to work it out. I hid no idea how to gget it done so I told her I t old her too spot it. It eas really effecting mi werk. So I married her.
Do you spell any better?:D
 

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On Mineo’s Facebook page, a frequent poster Wendi Keller who seems in the know said the PSU legal department interviewed the entire team already and not a single corroborated the Bartlett’s story. Sydney responded with she has several wrestlers who did and Wendi said something to the tune of they all said behind your (Bartlett) back they said that so you stop bugging them which you have been to every teammate for weeks.
I'm anxious to hear @js8793 take on this. Is Wendi Keller just perpetrating another attack on the character of a woman from a generation we don't understand? What say you?
 

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This one job I had was transferring notes to digital on computer and my co-worker would come up behind me and blow in my ear and start groping me. I reported her to the boss and he told me to work it out. I hid no idea how to gget it done so I told her I t old her too spot it. It eas really effecting mi werk. So I married her.
You try typing with a certified former employee/crazy wife blows into your ear.
 

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On Mineo’s Facebook page, a frequent poster Wendi Keller who seems in the know said the PSU legal department interviewed the entire team already and not a single corroborated the Bartlett’s story. Sydney responded with she has several wrestlers who did and Wendi said something to the tune of they all said behind your (Bartlett) back they said that so you stop bugging them which you have been to every teammate for weeks.
Where have we seen this before? Oh wait, that's right -- Tiffany vs Debbie Gibson.

 
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It's worse than that. HR is where sociopaths go to practice their malevolent craft with respectability.

About fifteen years ago, I inherited a bona-fide bat guano crazy employee. A former college cheerleader, she smoked herself into a reasonably decent facsimile of Margaret Hamilton's most famous character, sans the greenish hue.

One day, she really topped herself. Frustrated by some small matter, she "vented" by walking about the halls holding a banana as a faux gun, complete with "bang bang, pow, pow". When that didn't get the reaction she wanted, she began shaking it and making noises more like automated fire.

I called the employee help line and my boss, who asked me to update him on EAP's recommendations. I told him that they indicated that she exhibited 8 out of 10 "troubled" employee warning signs and that given the violent mimicry, should be required to undergo counseling as a condition of continued employment-however, since she didn't think she had a problem, the outcome wouldn't likely lead to improvement and for the moment, I should advise her of the inappropriateness of her "humor" and document the conversation, advising the chain of command,.

After the call, I was updating my boss and there was a knock on his office door. It was bat guano and she said "gentlemen, I just have one question. Is my sanity in question". (talk about the queen mother of Freudian slips), to which my boss responded that we were discussing technical matters.

A week later, the boss left for two weeks as he was getting married. She used the time to file a 9-page written sexual harassment complaint-and since the first interviewer was reading from the original-I could see that in her anger, Annie Bananny Oakley embossed the paper.

While it was completely fabricated-some of the complaints rose to the ridiculous. One was that I fell on her (not sexual harassment, and of course with me at about 250, she'd have needed an ambulance.). Since lunatics seek attention, she couldn't resist the most insane but elaborate flourishes such as I "mounted" her-in the office.

Three months later, I was told that interviews and a search of records indicated that no evidence was found to support the allegations. I was informed that for my own protection; I should never allow myself to be alone with that employee.

The letter I received said that no evidence was found to support the allegations, I wasn't found "innocent". In addition, it stated this letter would be retained in my permanent file for the duration of my employment and it could be considered in any future investigations. There was no possibility of pursuing action against the lying sack for insubordination or abuse of process.

I'm getting close to retirement; my good-bye letter will have a special section with my thoughts on HR.
When I read the first paragraph of your post I initially thought you were referring to HR as "Hawkeye Report" instead of Human Resources....i was shaking my head in agreement.
 
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On Mineo’s Facebook page, a frequent poster Wendi Keller who seems in the know said the PSU legal department interviewed the entire team already and not a single corroborated the Bartlett’s story. Sydney responded with she has several wrestlers who did and Wendi said something to the tune of they all said behind your (Bartlett) back they said that so you stop bugging them which you have been to every teammate for weeks.
More on Wendi Keller’s knowledge base from
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“Wendi Priest Keller is the mother of Gavin Priest who trained at M2 in high school wrestles for Arizona State.

Her Facebook friends include: Cael Sanderson's wife, Kelly; Cody Sanderson's wife, Sarah; Casey Cunningham's wife, Tara; Zain Retherford's wife, Julianna; Bo Nickal's sister, Jordan; Araron Brooks' mom, Adrienne; Jimmy Kennedy's wife/David Taylor's sister-in-law, Laney (Jimmy Kennedy's sister is David Taylor's wife); Anthony Cassar, Pat Mineo. She's also friends with a bunch of people connected to other people in the Az State and Ok State wrestling communities.

Seems safe to say she knows the greater State College wrestling community pretty well”
 

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More on Wendi Keller’s knowledge base from
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“Wendi Priest Keller is the mother of Gavin Priest who trained at M2 in high school wrestles for Arizona State.

Her Facebook friends include: Cael Sanderson's wife, Kelly; Cody Sanderson's wife, Sarah; Casey Cunningham's wife, Tara; Zain Retherford's wife, Julianna; Bo Nickal's sister, Jordan; Araron Brooks' mom, Adrienne; Jimmy Kennedy's wife/David Taylor's sister-in-law, Laney (Jimmy Kennedy's sister is David Taylor's wife); Anthony Cassar, Pat Mineo. She's also friends with a bunch of people connected to other people in the Az State and Ok State wrestling communities.

Seems safe to say she knows the greater State College wrestling community pretty well”
But is she friends with Syd Dolla Sign?
 

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Unpopular opinion here but 2011 isn't a good comparison. I won't argue that now, it's old news. BUT CSA and SA allegations are polar opposites. Most initial SA reports to the police are bogus. They fall off quickly.

Most as in just about all CS cases that had legs meaning a solid conviction were initially covered up. The person I talked to said in his experience it was 100%. And that entails many cases.

However now things are different and reporting seems to be occurring in legitimate cases according to what I'm told.

Sandusky, old and archived news. Carter, new modern pattern of social media attempted assassination.
 

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It's worse than that. HR is where sociopaths go to practice their malevolent craft with respectability.

About fifteen years ago, I inherited a bona-fide bat guano crazy employee. A former college cheerleader, she smoked herself into a reasonably decent facsimile of Margaret Hamilton's most famous character, sans the greenish hue.

One day, she really topped herself. Frustrated by some small matter, she "vented" by walking about the halls holding a banana as a faux gun, complete with "bang bang, pow, pow". When that didn't get the reaction she wanted, she began shaking it and making noises more like automated fire.

I called the employee help line and my boss, who asked me to update him on EAP's recommendations. I told him that they indicated that she exhibited 8 out of 10 "troubled" employee warning signs and that given the violent mimicry, should be required to undergo counseling as a condition of continued employment-however, since she didn't think she had a problem, the outcome wouldn't likely lead to improvement and for the moment, I should advise her of the inappropriateness of her "humor" and document the conversation, advising the chain of command,.

After the call, I was updating my boss and there was a knock on his office door. It was bat guano and she said "gentlemen, I just have one question. Is my sanity in question". (talk about the queen mother of Freudian slips), to which my boss responded that we were discussing technical matters.

A week later, the boss left for two weeks as he was getting married. She used the time to file a 9-page written sexual harassment complaint-and since the first interviewer was reading from the original-I could see that in her anger, Annie Bananny Oakley embossed the paper.

While it was completely fabricated-some of the complaints rose to the ridiculous. One was that I fell on her (not sexual harassment, and of course with me at about 250, she'd have needed an ambulance.). Since lunatics seek attention, she couldn't resist the most insane but elaborate flourishes such as I "mounted" her-in the office.

Three months later, I was told that interviews and a search of records indicated that no evidence was found to support the allegations. I was informed that for my own protection; I should never allow myself to be alone with that employee.

The letter I received said that no evidence was found to support the allegations, I wasn't found "innocent". In addition, it stated this letter would be retained in my permanent file for the duration of my employment and it could be considered in any future investigations. There was no possibility of pursuing action against the lying sack for insubordination or abuse of process.

I'm getting close to retirement; my good-bye letter will have a special section with my thoughts on HR.
100% accurate.
 

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1. The B1G picking Carter when they had 18 finalists to choose from for a very prestigious award (named after an icon) shows they want something more substantive to take away stuff he earned. Hell just from Penn State, they easily could have picked Tyler Warren or Abdul Carter as the finalist instead.

2. This not going national after 2+ weeks shows they're working super slow and can't get anything new (I'm sure multiple journalists have reached out to the parties involved in the Collegian) or in all likelihood, they aren't going to post something like this to a much bigger audience and add themselves to a potential lawsuit. Similar to the Big Ten, keep in mind they want something on the record (different from the Collegian) such as a lawsuit or a police report.

3. A non wrestling account with 370K followers (CFBReddit) retweeted Carter winning the award and referenced him "sexually assaulting underage girls" to an audience that likely wants to link this to Sandusky/Paterno ... it has 40 likes and maybe 1-2 jokes about Penn State. If you want an idea of how little the general public cares about Wrestling. The story is interesting to wrestling fans who just want PSU wrestling to fall.

4. Syd Bartlett has continued to tweet trying to regain traction thinking there is no way there can be repercussions, saying she doesn't think Carter would sue because of Discovery (like some alluded to) However Brantt has previously alluded to lawsuits being worked on and added "She is making some very poor decisions IMO."
 
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At this point, does Cael or the university have to say anything?

Also, if this whole thing blows over, what a bad look for that writer. That’s giving the benefit of the doubt it hasn’t already blown over.
 
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At this point, does Cael or the university have to say anything?

Also, if this whole thing blows over, what a bad look for that writer. That’s giving the benefit of the doubt it hasn’t already blown over.
Absolutely not. This story or "story" has gained zero traction beyond the Collegian. The moment PSU (or Cael as a PSU employee) issues a statement, it's national news.

Besides, as the old adage (paraphrasing) says: Don't interfere when the other side is destroying itself.
 

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Absolutely not. This story or "story" has gained zero traction beyond the Collegian. The moment PSU (or Cael as a PSU employee) issues a statement, it's national news.

Besides, as the old adage (paraphrasing) says: Don't interfere when the other side is destroying itself.
💯% this. There’s no need for them to do anything as of now.
 

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My biggest fear from all this drama/saga, would have been an overreaction from the University that would have forced Cael out. I have to admit, I felt better having Kraft as the AD to navigate through this versus Sandy.

The one thing that hit home with me is the greatest threat to the current PSU wrestling dynasty isn't another program, it's from within it's own program. I'm sure this was an eye opener for the staff also.
 

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I think Cael/Penn State is caught in a rock and hard place.

I think Cael wants to release a statement because while this is a small scale story, it's hot in the wrestling world, which definitely matters to him. He has worked very hard to build his program up and people slandering it with hearsay allegations has to bother Cael to his core. Some jackasses even run with clearly fake rumors like his job is at risk.

But if he releases a statement, it increases the likelihood of it getting picked up by the nation, which is what the school cares about. I agree with Penn State's move right now, barring something new, just go business as usual. Cael clearly is confident in how he handled things.

EDIT: I'd also add that it's smart to not release a statement because under no circumstances is it going to change anyone's mind. What's the point? You think those PSU Hate Burners and Iowa/Ok State fans will be like "Oh wow, Cael is a man of integrity"? No they run with fake stuff as is.
 

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I think Cael/Penn State is caught in a rock and hard place.

I think Cael wants to release a statement because while this is a small scale story, it's hot in the wrestling world, which definitely matters to him. He has worked very hard to build his program up and people slandering it with hearsay allegations has to bother Cael to his core. Some jackasses even run with clearly fake rumors like his job is at risk.

But if he releases a statement, it increases the likelihood of it getting picked up by the nation, which is what the school cares about. I agree with Penn State's move right now, barring something new, just go business as usual. Cael clearly is confident in how he handled things.
Right now, recruits clearly haven't bought the story. Nobody has decommitted. No big name transfers of current wrestlers. I'm sure Cael is in on some big names, even in a light class. As you said, its business as usual.

The fact that PSU and the BIG keep handing Carter awards indicates they don't believe the story either.

I'm actually quite impressed Carter has kept quiet throughout all of this. He's letting Beau and Syd dig their own hole.

I'd bet the USA wrestling/Safe Sport suspension is a precautionary CYA on their part. I kinda see their side of it. You can't clear a guy to go to camps with kids who later turns out to be a predator. And yes, I also believe in due process. But this is not a legal proceeding. I have to think they'll do an investigation and reinstate Carter if nothing turns up.
 

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Right now, recruits clearly haven't bought the story. Nobody has decommitted. No big name transfers of current wrestlers. I'm sure Cael is in on some big names, even in a light class. As you said, its business as usual.

The fact that PSU and the BIG keep handing Carter awards indicates they don't believe the story either.

I'm actually quite impressed Carter has kept quiet throughout all of this. He's letting Beau and Syd dig their own hole.

I'd bet the USA wrestling/Safe Sport suspension is a precautionary CYA on their part. I kinda see their side of it. You can't clear a guy to go to camps with kids who later turns out to be a predator. And yes, I also believe in due process. But this is not a legal proceeding. I have to think they'll do an investigation and reinstate Carter if nothing turns up.
At which point the story dies…
 
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Right now, recruits clearly haven't bought the story. Nobody has decommitted. No big name transfers of current wrestlers. I'm sure Cael is in on some big names, even in a light class. As you said, its business as usual.

The fact that PSU and the BIG keep handing Carter awards indicates they don't believe the story either.

I'm actually quite impressed Carter has kept quiet throughout all of this. He's letting Beau and Syd dig their own hole.

I'd bet the USA wrestling/Safe Sport suspension is a precautionary CYA on their part. I kinda see their side of it. You can't clear a guy to go to camps with kids who later turns out to be a predator. And yes, I also believe in due process. But this is not a legal proceeding. I have to think they'll do an investigation and reinstate Carter if nothing turns up.
On 247, some posters tested how you can report something to SafeSport. It's not a difficult process, can be anonymous and does not need submission of evidence, only testimony. The article and Sydney's report made them default suspend Carter. I wouldn't be shocked if US Wrestling wanted to show they are taking it seriously and it's just convenient to suspend Carter right now (Carter isn't competing in anything) If hypothetically Carter was the US rep, I imagine it wouldn't be the case just off of hearsay rumors.

Also, in regards to Carter keeping quiet, he is 100% being advised by lawyers on both the Collegian Story and the SafeSport investigation. I imagine it's not easy for him to stay quiet (lol) but he's smart here. Don't be foolish and let legal experts advise you on what you should and shouldn't say based on the rules (which are always extremely complex)
 
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