Early NC High School Football Power Index Rankings for 4A-1A

New3ra

All-Conference
Mar 11, 2022
1,365
1,670
0
I wonder how this list would change once final rosters are put in. I think KM,Dudley and Crest should be top three in any order over Seventy-First, especially with what I know.
 
Last edited:

rbwebster32

Senior
Mar 16, 2022
416
523
93
I agree, there’s a legit 3-4 state championship caliber teams in the West alone. Heard your boys are bringing in a QB from York.
We had a QB move in from East Mecklenburg. So that’s cool if we have one coming from York as well.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Crestufff

shutdownD24

All-Conference
Sep 5, 2014
2,770
4,143
0
I agree, there’s a legit 3-4 state championship caliber teams in the West alone. Heard your boys are bringing in a QB from York.
Yep and we had one transfer in from East Meck also. I am hearing a 3rd qb is looking to come in also. Our backup from last year is looking good though so we will see.
 
  • Like
Reactions: New3ra
Oct 10, 2018
604
613
72
Yep and we had one transfer in from East Meck also. I am hearing a 3rd qb is looking to come in also. Our backup from last year is looking good though so we will see.
Possible young speedster coming there as well. I dont know how the track speed relates to his football skills but I am sure coaches will find some use for it if the move does happen. Family is currently looking at houses in the area.
 

shutdownD24

All-Conference
Sep 5, 2014
2,770
4,143
0
I agree, there’s a legit 3-4 state championship caliber teams in the West alone. Heard your boys are bringing in a QB from York.
West Charlotte is another team everyone should keep an eye on. The Dub-C is getting an influx of really good young talent from Ransom Middle. Also a few studs from Piedmont Middle. Those young guy should mix in well with the young talent WC has returning this season.
 

crestrulz

All-American
Oct 18, 2003
32,278
8,527
101
I am really surprised to see Kings Mountain ranked over Crest with all the talent Crest has coming back this year. I would almost say Crest is the favorite in the Big South even though that’s hard for me to say being a KM fan.
Well it isn't like KM is bringing back chopped liver pal.
 

rbwebster32

Senior
Mar 16, 2022
416
523
93
Well it isn't like KM is bringing back chopped liver pal.
Yeah I am not saying that KM is not bringing back some good talent but Crest didn’t lose much of anything and y’all have the same coaches for the most part and the big thing your QB is coming back who is really good. I just think KM will be good but might have some growing pains learning a whole new system and also breaking in a new QB.
 

mountie pride

All-Conference
Nov 20, 2016
1,072
1,083
83
I am really surprised to see Kings Mountain ranked over Crest with all the talent Crest has coming back this year. I would almost say Crest is the favorite in the Big South even though that’s hard for me to say being a KM fan.
I am VERY SURPRISED because CRESTRULZ and THE BIG[NEESES]SAUSAGE have already told us that this years CREST TEAM is a SUPER TEAM.
 

BIGSAUSAGES

All-Conference
Jan 12, 2023
1,721
3,372
103
I am VERY SURPRISED because CRESTRULZ and THE BIG[NEESES]SAUSAGE have already told us that this years CREST TEAM is a SUPER TEAM.
Every time you type you show is how ignorant you are
No one has stated a super team
Heck your kM team is getting transfers , hope Fisher goes to have a sit down with administration
We will have silence in that topic.
Fisher is Binkys ho
 

Bigdadd1110

All-Conference
Jun 9, 2004
12,167
1,457
81
West Charlotte is another team everyone should keep an eye on. The Dub-C is getting an influx of really good young talent from Ransom Middle. Also a few studs from Piedmont Middle. Those young guy should mix in well with the young talent WC has returning this season.
Dont think folks realize what's happening at West Charlotte. The talent from the 26 and 27 classes is unreal. If they keep getting this type of talent and the coaches remain they will be top 5 in the state regardless of class in a couple years.
 
  • Like
Reactions: New3ra

shutdownD24

All-Conference
Sep 5, 2014
2,770
4,143
0
I wonder how this list would change once final rosters are put in. I think KM,Dudley and Crest should be top three in any order over Seventy-First, especially with what I know.
Just heard that Anthony Quinn jr from 71st just transferred to Rabun Gap. Ouch!!
 
  • Like
Reactions: New3ra

New3ra

All-Conference
Mar 11, 2022
1,365
1,670
0
Just heard that Anthony Quinn jr from 71st just transferred to Rabun Gap. Ouch!!
That’s exactly why this pre-season ranking should’ve been done over the summer at least. That’s a huge loss for the next two seasons. I know some other moves that’s expected to happen that would put one of these teams arguably number one.
 
  • Like
Reactions: shutdownD24

shutdownD24

All-Conference
Sep 5, 2014
2,770
4,143
0
That’s exactly why this pre-season ranking should’ve been done over the summer at least. That’s a huge loss for the next two seasons. I know some other moves that’s expected to happen that would put one of these teams arguably number one.
I am aware of a few big movements or potential movements myself. I prefer to wait until Aug. 1st when most of the ink is drive. No use of getting fans stirred up in May over this lol.
 
  • Like
Reactions: New3ra

New3ra

All-Conference
Mar 11, 2022
1,365
1,670
0
I am aware of a few big movements or potential movements myself. I prefer to wait until Aug. 1st when most of the ink is drive. No use of getting fans stirred up in May over this lol.
I wonder if I know you, if not I’m sure we know some of the same people. You seem to be knowledgeable of a lot of moves around the state as well.
 

New3ra

All-Conference
Mar 11, 2022
1,365
1,670
0
Dont think folks realize what's happening at West Charlotte. The talent from the 26 and 27 classes is unreal. If they keep getting this type of talent and the coaches remain they will be top 5 in the state regardless of class in a couple years.
That linebacker group this year will be special! But yeah with some of the additions they made on the staff as well, they’re going to be a problem in the near future.
 

Bigdadd1110

All-Conference
Jun 9, 2004
12,167
1,457
81
That linebacker group this year will be special! But yeah with some of the additions they made on the staff as well, they’re going to be a problem in the near future.
Smith is severely underrated. Not many state schools in on him. He is an athletic freak. Add in Carmichael, Bullard and Napier and they are going to be really strong in the back 7.
 
  • Like
Reactions: New3ra

New3ra

All-Conference
Mar 11, 2022
1,365
1,670
0
Smith is severely underrated. Not many state schools in on him. He is an athletic freak. Add in Carmichael, Bullard and Napier and they are going to be really strong in the back 7.
Severely underrated? He has 20+ offers that feature Kentucky, Michigan,USC, etc. I don’t think he’s close to being underrated. I’m not sure why in state schools aren’t on him as hard though. I agree, the back 7 will be tough especially with those two corners williams and jones.
 
Last edited:

Bigdadd1110

All-Conference
Jun 9, 2004
12,167
1,457
81
Severely underrated? He has 20+ offers that feature Kentucky, Michigan,USC, etc. I don’t think he’s close to being underrated. I’m not sure why in state schools aren’t on him as hard though. I agree, the back 7 will be tough especially with those two corners williams and jones.
Underrated as in he should be a 4 star easily and in state schools should be banging down the door. When u talk 2024 not many bring him up. He could be the top player in NC and isnt even on a top 25 list for the state. When u look back in 4-5 years and this dude in the NFL people go wonder how they missed him. We focus on qb/wr in rankings and very rarely do they meet expectations in college vs. Defensive guys.

You seem real dialed in with CMS schools. Think MC and WC take over the next few years. MC has some very impressive players. Indy is good too.
 
  • Like
Reactions: New3ra

shutdownD24

All-Conference
Sep 5, 2014
2,770
4,143
0
I'm assuming it’s something for Dudl
I wonder if I know you, if not I’m sure we know some of the same people. You seem to be knowledgeable of a lot of moves around the state as well.
Our circles may touch. I have several longtime friends that coach in CMS, middle school and high school right now. Football and basketball. I also have friends or friends of friends coaching in different areas of the state. I am pretty plugged in to the DMV region also but not many fans from that area on here.
 
  • Like
Reactions: New3ra

New3ra

All-Conference
Mar 11, 2022
1,365
1,670
0
Underrated as in he should be a 4 star easily and in state schools should be banging down the door. When u talk 2024 not many bring him up. He could be the top player in NC and isnt even on a top 25 list for the state. When u look back in 4-5 years and this dude in the NFL people go wonder how they missed him. We focus on qb/wr in rankings and very rarely do they meet expectations in college vs. Defensive guys.

You seem real dialed in with CMS schools. Think MC and WC take over the next few years. MC has some very impressive players. Indy is good too.
Yeah you’re right! He doesn’t even have an offer from UNC or State which is crazy. His recruitment is actually odd imo. How do you have an offer from USC which is all the way across the country but not schools in your back yard. You would think that would’ve caught the attention from in state schools.

I know some of the kids. Creeks jv was huge last year, the area is steadily growing and they play the toughest schedule in the state so I can definitely see them rising back to the top. I think a power shift is happening from chambers to WC.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: shutdownD24

Bigdadd1110

All-Conference
Jun 9, 2004
12,167
1,457
81
Yeah you’re right! He doesn’t even have an offer from UNC or State which is crazy. His recruitment is actually odd imo. How do you have an offer from USC which is all the way across the country but not schools in your back yard. You would think that would’ve caught the attention from in state schools.

I know some of the kids. Creeks jv was huge last year, the area is steadily growing and they play the toughest schedule in the state so I can definitely see them rising back to the top. I think a power shift is happening from chambers to WC.
Yeah definitely switching from Chambers to West Charlotte. Folks don't really understand how good of a coach Brand and Ferebee were and Richardson as AD. Was an excellent combo. The talent level at Chambers and their mentality was off the charts. Natural attrition, CMS crackdown, and coaching change will slow Chambers some. No offense, but Brand/Ferebee were just different animals when it came to preparation and game planning.

MC is a team full of grown men. To me, their 8-4 record was more impressive than the season Hough/ Chambers had. Talent fluctuates at most CMS schools except for MC and Hough But MC is natural talent whereas Hough......no comment.
 

shutdownD24

All-Conference
Sep 5, 2014
2,770
4,143
0
Yeah definitely switching from Chambers to West Charlotte. Folks don't really understand how good of a coach Brand and Ferebee were and Richardson as AD. Was an excellent combo. The talent level at Chambers and their mentality was off the charts. Natural attrition, CMS crackdown, and coaching change will slow Chambers some. No offense, but Brand/Ferebee were just different animals when it came to preparation and game planning.

MC is a team full of grown men. To me, their 8-4 record was more impressive than the season Hough/ Chambers had. Talent fluctuates at most CMS schools except for MC and Hough But MC is natural talent whereas Hough......no comment.
The flow of middle school and west side talent that fed Chambers in recent years has shifted dramatically to WC. This change along with West Charlotte having a more consistent coaching group along with their improved athletic facilities is fueling the rise of the Lions. The 24 and 25 season versions of the Lions are going to be absolutely nasty.
 
  • Like
Reactions: New3ra

Bigdadd1110

All-Conference
Jun 9, 2004
12,167
1,457
81
The flow of middle school and west side talent that fed Chambers in recent years has shifted dramatically to WC. This change along with West Charlotte having a more consistent coaching group along with their improved athletic facilities is fueling the rise of the Lions. The 24 and 25 season versions of the Lions are going to be absolutely nasty.
You are correct. Have been yelling at folks that the IB middle schools are changing the HS football game in Charlotte especially with the CMS crackdown. Ranson, Randolph, JMA, and Piedmont have all the athletes in basketball and especially football because they come from all over the violet district which is EASILY the most talented for sports. What school are they zoned too? West Charlotte and NM. If WC gets 80% of those guys as they seem to be doing they will be nasty nasty at the 3A level. 24, 25, 26 seasons will be crazy good. Great coaching, great tradition, and great facilities = a big win for West Charlotte. Whereas parents have to play games to get into Hough, Chambers, or MC they can go to WC with no issues. Then if it doesn't work out they can simply go to their homeschool w/o issue.
 

rams10

All-Conference
Dec 2, 2011
5,799
4,762
113
Our circles may touch. I have several longtime friends that coach in CMS, middle school and high school right now. Football and basketball. I also have friends or friends of friends coaching in different areas of the state. I am pretty plugged in to the DMV region also but not many fans from that area on here.

I know newera is plugged in pretty well with the triad. So when he said he knew of a move, I assumed it would be Dudley.

If it is Dudley I have an uneducated guess of who it could be.
 
Oct 10, 2018
604
613
72
You are correct. Have been yelling at folks that the IB middle schools are changing the HS football game in Charlotte especially with the CMS crackdown. Ranson, Randolph, JMA, and Piedmont have all the athletes in basketball and especially football because they come from all over the violet district which is EASILY the most talented for sports. What school are they zoned too? West Charlotte and NM. If WC gets 80% of those guys as they seem to be doing they will be nasty nasty at the 3A level. 24, 25, 26 seasons will be crazy good. Great coaching, great tradition, and great facilities = a big win for West Charlotte. Whereas parents have to play games to get into Hough, Chambers, or MC they can go to WC with no issues. Then if it doesn't work out they can simply go to their homeschool w/o issue.
Do you think families are going to be priced out of the west side? I have a direct line to a real estate acquisition firm and when I say they are buying up the west side,they are buying it up and flipping same day to investors. Was told that's the hottest place to invest in and it will see huge jump in returns in the next couple of years. Also, with proposed new alignment, West Charlotte would be 6A in 2025 I believe.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Bigdadd1110

New3ra

All-Conference
Mar 11, 2022
1,365
1,670
0
I know newera is plugged in pretty well with the triad. So when he said he knew of a move, I assumed it would be Dudley.

If it is Dudley I have an uneducated guess of who it could be.
Most definitely, I know a ton of kids, coaches and trainers out that way. Who do you think it could be?
 

New3ra

All-Conference
Mar 11, 2022
1,365
1,670
0
Do you think families are going to be priced out of the west side? I have a direct line to a real estate acquisition firm and when I say they are buying up the west side,they are buying it up and flipping same day to investors. Was told that's the hottest place to invest in and it will see huge jump in returns in the next couple of years. Also, with proposed new alignment, West Charlotte would be 6A in 2025 I believe.
I was going to say the same thing. The new alignment is taking place after the next two seasons so it’s no telling where West Charlotte will end up but I would guess they would move up.
 

rams10

All-Conference
Dec 2, 2011
5,799
4,762
113
Most definitely, I know a ton of kids, coaches and trainers out that way. Who do you think it could be?


You mentioned something about Page in another thread. I'm hoping its not their big fish.
 

shutdownD24

All-Conference
Sep 5, 2014
2,770
4,143
0
I was going to say the same thing. The new alignment is taking place after the next two seasons so it’s no telling where West Charlotte will end up but I would guess they would move up.
WC is definitely moving up in next realignment. I am pretty sure that Dudley will also be moving up in next also. Dudley’s adms are already more than some of the smaller 4A’s.
 

New3ra

All-Conference
Mar 11, 2022
1,365
1,670
0
WC is definitely moving up in next realignment. I am pretty sure that Dudley will also be moving up in next also. Dudley’s adms are already more than some of the smaller 4A’s.
Most definitely, I expect both to move up. Do you think Kings Mountain staying in the same division as Crest? I know it’s expected to grow in that area.