Edsall soon out?

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"by firing Edsall before his original deal ends Jan. 15, 2017, the school will have to pay him for the remainder of this season and an additional $2.6 million: $2.1 million for next year's salary and that half-million buyout."
Actually you know what I took a look and it's not really much more like I thought. They would have owed him the 2.1M anyway after this season. So that's not really changed. All that's changed is an additional 500K. So it's not really so bad and was really for show.
 
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Wolv RU

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So the buyout stayed the same but they have to pay him a year's extra salary. That was kinda dumb on their part. I thought the extension was kind for show and maybe a marginal increase of money owed.

It WAS for show, but they assumed that they would keep him at least one more season after this one.

Perhaps the results have been so poor they just don't feel like they can do that, but important to wait and see if it actually happens anyway.
 
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It WAS for show, but they assumed that they would keep him at least one more season after this one.

Perhaps the results have been so poor they just don't feel like they can do that, but important to wait and see if it actually happens anyway.
Yup I edited my post. I went and quickly checked out the article, 500K is the extra money they owe. So not too bad.
 

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Word on the street is Kevin Plank is "all in" (take that FWIW) to get Chip Kelly if (when?) Philly fires him. I've read talk of him being open to offering UA stock options and being willing to work with UMD to go as high as $7 million/year to get him. All message board chatter for now, but we'll see what happens.
Chip Kelly is going to get another year in Philly. He took a 4 win team and turned it into two 10 win teams. Unless the wheels totally fall off, Kelly will be in Philly in 2016.
 

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I think the major difference is, your players like Flood....opposed to Edsall's players.

that being said, is Flood seriously going to be the coach next year? If not, and with the crap going on there, why in the world haven't they pulled the plug yet?.....no clue. unless, they think they can still go bowling this year with Flood at the helm. gotta go 4-0 against Indiana, Nebraska, Army, and Maryland. not impossible, so we'll see.

good move by Maryland for not even wasting another game on him. look at Illinois.....they're playing much better under their interim coach. but, like Maryland (and unlike Rutgers)...Illinois players hated Beckmen. obviously, Beckmen couldn't get around the crap he was pulling. somehow Flood did.....amazing.
On another topic, WTF with PSU and Army? Should Rutgers be worried, or did you guys have a brain fart that day.
 

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- please don't tell me what to do and, believe it or not, I'm damn happy!!! Com'on man we've been getting along no need for this!

- there is nothing wrong with my choice of words. It's more than clear what I'm talking about, and is actually a term quite often used, when describing what other school's do when recruiting our state's talent.

I'm fine, I'm ready to tailgate, to get to my seat, and to cheer my team on to victory, so don't worry about my disdain for our current HC'ing situation. I'll be my old chipper self once Bozo is gone (whenever that is...) and, if there is something positive to discuss - like having the nations's top all-around kick returner - I most definitely will do so with as much pride as ANY other poster!

Might as well hop on board, Shift, you'll feel better letting your true emotions out, instead of keeping them bottled up, I know that I do! :smiley:
For some reason I'm remembering you as the guy that was cursing out Shea when I was on a recruitng visit. In 97... Against either Cuse or Vtech. Can't remember. Lol. This guy was giving him an ear full the whole game. Lower level seats back when Rutgers sat on the other side of the stadium.
 
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For some reason I'm remembering you as the guy that was cursing out Shea when I was on a recruitng visit. In 97... Against either Cuse or Vtech. Can't remember. Lol. This guy was giving him an ear full the whole game. Lower level seats back when Rutgers sat on the other side of the stadium.
but.... but... but....

we were told recruits don't notice those things.
 

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I think the major difference is, your players like Flood....opposed to Edsall's players.

that being said, is Flood seriously going to be the coach next year? If not, and with the crap going on there, why in the world haven't they pulled the plug yet?.....no clue. unless, they think they can still go bowling this year with Flood at the helm. gotta go 4-0 against Indiana, Nebraska, Army, and Maryland. not impossible, so we'll see.

The only way I see Flood getting canned before the Army game is if we go 0-6 in the next 6 games or another scandal breaks.
 

AreYouNUTS

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For some reason I'm remembering you as the guy that was cursing out Shea when I was on a recruitng visit. In 97... Against either Cuse or Vtech. Can't remember. Lol. This guy was giving him an ear full the whole game. Lower level seats back when Rutgers sat on the other side of the stadium.

Uhm, yeah, no it wasn't me (and if you think there was only 1 guy, cursing out Shea, let's talk tech stocks...). I sat Section 129, Row 11, IIRC, at the time.
 
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Chip Kelly is going to get another year in Philly. He took a 4 win team and turned it into two 10 win teams. Unless the wheels totally fall off, Kelly will be in Philly in 2016.
Good don't want to see him in our conference let alone our division. We have enough to deal with Harbaugh/Meyer/Dantonio. No others necessary thanks. ;)
 

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On another topic, WTF with PSU and Army? Should Rutgers be worried, or did you guys have a brain fart that day.

ha....Barkley & Lynch didn't play. 3 back-ups on the OL started (Mangiro got hurt), only 1 starter at LB.....(I saw 2 true FR LB play significant snaps along w/Ben Kline who's a 5th yr SR that has barely played in 2 years)....both starting safeties out. that's a lot of of injuries/back-ups playing.

In addition.....yeah, we suck.

but in all seriousness, Franklin was gambling big time, resting as many starters as possible (Barkley & B Bell could've played if needed), so they were healthy for Indiana.

obviously...much closer of game then he would've imagine. that offense Army plays is real tricky....our defense got worn out in the 4th quarter. i was shitting bricks
 

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I come to this board because I still have hope.

If Chip Kelly ended up at Maryland, I'll give up. Truly throw in the towel and give up.
 

vkj91

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Firing a coach mid year does nothing. Searches are being conducted while coaches are are still working and nobody is going to agree to a job until after they see all their options. Hell, if USC had to wait to get a coach so will Maryland. On a side note, I am shocked shocked I tell ya for years I read on this very board all HCRE needed was a recruiting ground and program support.
 

PSUpaly

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The only way I see Flood getting canned before the Army game is if we go 0-6 in the next 6 games or another scandal breaks.

that's what I mean......there's apparently still hope to "save" the season....meaning, go bowling. lose to Indiana next week, it's over....meaning 5 wins tops.

MSU, OSU, @ Wisconsin, @ Michigan.....0-4, right? obviously, **** could happen...but 0-4 more than likely. then....it's the other 4 teams. gotta beat Indiana....in Bloomington, far from easy.
 

PSUpaly

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I come to this board because I still have hope.

If Chip Kelly ended up at Maryland, I'll give up. Truly throw in the towel and give up.

nah...Chip's not done yet.

though...I'm thinking Charlie Strong.....which if I'm a Terps fan, i'd fairly excited in the pants. we'll see.....i think they make a splash though.....they keep Haskins, rake in all that talent down there....they'll be fine, if not better than fine.......kinda scares me.
 

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I think the major difference is, your players like Flood....opposed to Edsall's players.

that being said, is Flood seriously going to be the coach next year? If not, and with the crap going on there, why in the world haven't they pulled the plug yet?.....no clue. unless, they think they can still go bowling this year with Flood at the helm. .

We have to have our lawyers analyze everything first, then check which direction the wind is blowing, then go to the tarot card reader...

Nothing changed with Mike Rice from November until March, but suddenly what he did became a fireable offense once ESPN got a hold of things...
 
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Ugh....we have GOT to make a move...The Twerps are going to hire someone better, as they've got a pledge from their UA guy to make them the next "Oregon"...this is just bad, bad, BAD news for us.
.... NUTS it 's not happening so better start taking a Purple lot collection beginning Saturday toward Flood's buyout ...
 

RU4Real

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that's what I mean......there's apparently still hope to "save" the season....meaning, go bowling. lose to Indiana next week, it's over....meaning 5 wins tops.

MSU, OSU, @ Wisconsin, @ Michigan.....0-4, right? obviously, **** could happen...but 0-4 more than likely. then....it's the other 4 teams. gotta beat Indiana....in Bloomington, far from easy.

By that time we should be back to being focused on going 1-0 every week, so... I'm not even worried. [eyeroll]
 

srru86

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Well, there goes my stock response about Maryland.

A: Do you think Maryland is a threat to Rutgers?
B: Are they still coached by Randy Edsall?
A: Yes
B: Then, no.
Yes ,this could be problematic
 
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Firing a coach mid year does nothing. Searches are being conducted while coaches are are still working and nobody is going to agree to a job until after they see all their options. Hell, if USC had to wait to get a coach so will Maryland. On a side note, I am shocked shocked I tell ya for years I read on this very board all HCRE needed was a recruiting ground and program support.
I've never been high on him but what you bring up is nothing new here. I've seen it with Turner Gill/Golden/Strong. It's just whatever name is the hot one at the moment. Look at Rhule recently and Fleck, both of whom I don't care for but if they made the step up and failed no one would mention them anymore and distance themselves. That's to be expected.

Most just look at the hot name, so I don't blame them. I actually like to look deeper and see if there's substance there or not. I mean even a couple years ago I brought up Herman no one mentioned him here or barely responded and most were on Narduzzi. Now a couple years later many like Herman and think he might be a good one. Same for Fuente now but I think more are catching on him than Herman at that time and that he might be a good one.

But I like doing it, it's fun for me and others couldn't be bothered so I don't blame them. Even Strong now, when he was getting the raises at Louisville I thought it was too soon. I wanted to see him without Bridgewater but some here thought I was little crazy especially after the win over Florida. Now he's a pariah here suddenly. Funny enough while I wasn't so high on him then I'm not so down on him now. I think he needs to get his OC issues straightened out and if he can do that he'll be okay. Not on the top of my lists but he's a good defensive coach who needs a strong OC beside him and he has to do a better job picking that person.
 

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It has always been a matter of when and not if they will fire him. His big season was 8-4 in the big east, no great accomplishment even at Connecticut, and then getting blown out by Oklahoma. Nobody who watched the big east regularly like we did thought randy edsall was ever going to rise above a certain level of mediocrity. This is big time college football. There are about 65 positions open in a country of 320 million people. If you don't show flashes of greatness early in your tenure odds are you will never be great. Fludd and schiano supporters take note.
 

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Regarding Locksley, doesn't Maryland have a top 25 recruiting class coming in next year (well, at this point anyway)? Seems he can at least recruit a little bit, but isn't a great coach.

Locksley has been a good recruiter. But as a coach he has been mediocre at best. How his offenses have ranked each year:

2005 Illinois: 96
2006 Illinois: 67
2007 Illinois: 13
2008 Illinois: 33
2009 New Mexico: 97
2010 New Mexico: 120
2011 New Mexico: 118
2012 Maryland: 120
2013 Maryland: 54
2014 Maryland: 68

He got a lot of credit for the two good years at Illinois. But it can be argued that the high rankings those years were due more to having talented players rather than a good offensive scheme.
 

RUScrew85

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I'm surprised by UMd's apparent willingness to pull the rug out from under him mid-season. They had a decent first year in the B1G last season and recruiting seemed to be going well. And this is supposed to be an athletic department with financial problems just about as big as ours has.

RU has done quite well against Edsall so I will miss him if he's gone, LOL. Worse case scenario for us is that UMd might hire Chip Kelly whom I hope never to see again in Rutgers Stadium unless he's there as the head coach or OC of RU.

Chip Kelly will not be available until after 2016 at the earliest. The entire Eagles front office was restructured around Kelly just last year. He'll get at least one more year even if only wins 6.
 

AreYouNUTS

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.... NUTS it 's not happening so better start taking a Purple lot collection beginning Saturday toward Flood's buyout ...

Once again, in a thread filled with posts - by many - talking about how a move by Maryland can screw us here at Rutgers, Bob has chosen to respond to me, not anyone else and, once again, he makes a comment alluding to the fact that HE knows Kyle Flood isn't losing his job this season. Hey, he may not be, he may be, but apparently "RUBob72" knows with 100% certainty that he's not, lol!

Move along, Bob, move along. You've GOT to have better things to do than be up my *** 24/7.

NUTS

p.s. - for someone who THINKS he knows a lot about me but, in reality, doesn't know ****, you should know I don't park in purple anymore. Nice try, Bob, nice try!
 

Knight Shift

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Chip Kelly will not be available until after 2016 at the earliest. The entire Eagles front office was restructured around Kelly just last year. He'll get at least one more year even if only wins 6.
So what you are saying is Chip Kelly is a 100% lock for Rutgers in 2017? Yes!!!!!!
 

miketd1

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Chip is not going to leave Philly. His supposed opportunity at Maryland wouldn't be better than the one he left in Oregon.

He's got complete control over a marquee NFL franchise (rare) and total buy-in from the owner (rarer). He'd be foolish to leave without having even made the playoffs.
 

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I'm surprised by UMd's apparent willingness to pull the rug out from under him mid-season. They had a decent first year in the B1G last season and recruiting seemed to be going well. And this is supposed to be an athletic department with financial problems just about as big as ours has.

RU has done quite well against Edsall so I will miss him if he's gone, LOL. Worse case scenario for us is that UMd might hire Chip Kelly whom I hope never to see again in Rutgers Stadium unless he's there as the head coach or OC of RU.

Word on the street is Kevin Plank is "all in" (take that FWIW) to get Chip Kelly if (when?) Philly fires him. I've read talk of him being open to offering UA stock options and being willing to work with UMD to go as high as $7 million/year to get him. All message board chatter for now, but we'll see what happens.

Chip Kelly is going to get another year in Philly. He took a 4 win team and turned it into two 10 win teams. Unless the wheels totally fall off, Kelly will be in Philly in 2016.

Chip Kelly will not be available until after 2016 at the earliest. The entire Eagles front office was restructured around Kelly just last year. He'll get at least one more year even if only wins 6.

From everything I've read, the last 2 have it right. Jeffrey Lurie, the Eagles owner loves Kelly. He'll get another year to do the shopping for the groceries before they cut bait on him and move on. Also, Chip has repeatedly stated publicly that he doesn't want to go back to college, as he hates schmoozing with the boosters , the NCCA rules and the recruiting grind. He's not a people person and would rather think football 24/7 then deal with kids.

He reminds me of the guy at my work who turns sideways to avoid eye contact when he walks by you, but if you ask him a question about a piece of software with millions of lines of code, he can tell you what module and what lines to look at to find the answer.
 

vkj91

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Even if Kelly gets fired and Maryland throws the bank at him he'd still have to want the job. The guy has plenty of money and would be a top candidate for every job. He's not gonna settle on Maryland for an extra million or two a year if that's not where he really wants to be.
 

vkj91

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Hell, this board all wants Schiano back. Imagine if Oregon loses 4-5 games this year. You don't think Nike would be calling Chip?
 

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but.... but... but....

we were told recruits don't notice those things.
In the defense of that fan, which @AreYouNUTS said it wasn't him...lol... it didn't deter me from choosing Rutgers... (as some on the board know, I ended up joining the Air Force)... but remembering back, it was very noticeable... and it was definitely part of the discussion with my mom on the ride home. And the score didn't help for that matter. I believe it was 60-3 or something like that... (the game against cuse, I remember the students throwing oranges on the field.)
 

ru66

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funny, but the board that's full of macho men is also full of premature speculators--hope their "socal/love" lives have better controls.
 

RU4Real

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funny, but the board that's full of macho men is also full of premature speculators--hope their "socal/love" lives have better controls.

There are a number of posters on this board whose content is 100% specifically limited to criticism of other posters. You are one of those people. So maybe you should take a look in the mirror before worrying about what "controls" other people have in their lives.
 

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and yours is limited to what? you are specifically criticizing me as an individual--and have done so directly by name to others on this board which by the way is common practice of the standard crew who have zero tolerance-- yet my generalized statement seems to offend you?
 

RU4Real

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and yours is limited to what? you are specifically criticizing me as an individual--and have done so directly by name to others on this board which by the way is common practice of the standard crew who have zero tolerance-- yet my generalized statement seems to offend you?

I just felt it was time you knew.

And I don't call out other people directly by name. Show your work on that.