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First American Pope.....Ever!....
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I'm not really sure what you're asking.
Vatican City is part of the Schengen Area. There are no border controls between any of those countries.
Obviously you can't just walk into any building you want or whatever, but you can freely enter or exit the country at will. That's definitionally "open borders."
They better question it. If adults have been brought up in a faith and havent questioned it, thats gotta be a small %. Surely almost all have questioned it and decided for whatever reason(s) to continue.
- hedge their bets and figure its worth investing the time if its all real in the end.
- it provides comfort because the alternative of not believing is too scary to face.
- it provides a community that they value.
- family obligation and being an example for others keeps bringing them back.
- they like the teachings/lessons and ultimately value that the most.
- they thought about it and were still like 'yeah, its real'.
Surely most everyone in churches falls into one of those 6 options above, and likely more than one.
I haven’t dined with the Pope in a while, but if i remember correctly, there is a very hefty wall around the city. There are some parts open to the public, but most of it has very strict entry requirements. If that is the case, it would seem odd for the last Pope to expect us to have open borders, if he did actually say that. I would find that stance interesting
YUP. That always struck me as ironic. It would be like someone who has personal body guards being anti-cop for everyone else.
They also have the Swiss Guard protecting the Pope and defending Vatican City.
I think there's a definitional difference between what QuaoaoarsKing is desribing as 'open borders' (St. Peter's Basilica is a church, after all) and the practical open borders that we are typically discussing around here.
Leonine Wall surrounds it. The front (east side) of the Vatican City is open. The west side is not. There are also Swiss guards hiding (not the ones dressed like jesters) hiding in the shadows with old MP40s.
Yes, I'm using the actual definition of an "open border" and they're using... something else?
If the president announced tomorrow that we now would have an open border with Mexico, it doesn't mean we would have to knock down the existing border walls, pave over the Rio Grande, etc., and let people cross at literally any point along the border. It just means we would stop checking people's documents at the border. Mississippi has an open border with Arkansas, but there are only a few roads you can actually take to utilize that border, and if you try to cross on someone's private property, you can still get in trouble.
All of this is kinda moot because I highly doubt Leo XIV has ever advocated for the US and Mexico to have Schengen style borders. But if he has, he wouldn't be a hypocrite.
I know a lot of you guys like to quote scripture and some of you do it quite well. So what does the Bible say about a country's right to maintain borders and regulate movement in and out of it's territory ?
Time to get us some of that Vatican money
According to his brother he is a White Sox fan. The Sox could use some divine intervention.
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I’ve been there, no you can’t. You also can’t walk anywhere in Washington DC either.
I was raised a Catholic. I would consider myself lapsed though. I am not sure he identifies as American. In his acceptance speech and prayer he chose to speak a part of it in Spanish to speak to his flock in Peru. He did not choose to say something in English to give a nod to being the first American born Pope. Obviously most of it was in Italian since that is where the Vatican is. American Catholics sure could use a little boost and he is supposed to bring the world together and increase the flock of Catholics all over the world. I just think it was a missed opportunity.
My thoughts exactly. The Vatican can call for whatever; wherever but no not in the Vatican itself. If so that's where all the damn "refugees" should've been going instead of here in the US. Amazing how people that have never lived here can call for how our country should work. I say those countries that want better for those who are willing to move let em in, but not criticize the US until they actually invest in their military like the US.
"Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance, the only thing it cannot be is moderately important." C.S. Lewis.
Not really significant. The United States is a blimp on the radar. He's the policy setting leader of over a billion people in every continent of the world. His background would lead to believe that he will continue to expand the direction that Pope Francis was headed.
Brother of Leo XIV says he will be similar to Pope Francis - LifeSite
The Pope’s brother, John Prevost, has said the new leader of the Church and his predecessor Francis ‘believed in the same issues,’ adding that Leo ‘will follow’ the late pontiff.
www.lifesitenews.com
Definitely for it. God gave land to certain people for their use and care, and helped countries all the time defend themselves against invading hoardes.
Jesus said, "Render to Caesar what is Caesar's", so He recognized the importance of being good citizens (even to the point of paying taxes when required to do so) while living this short time we each get here on earth. It's not the end goal, but while we're here we should have and maintain order.
The Bible is also very pro-fairness and pro-justice. If you are a citizen of a country, it's perfectly plausible that you have certain rights that non-citizens don't have (fairness). And if you commit a crime, you should be punished accordingly (justice).
Deuteronomy 19:14, Deuteronomy 32:8, Numbers 32:17, Proverbs 22:28.
Scripture makes it pretty clear that Trump has been called to keep out the Riff-Raff.
Well I wish He would work on stopping priests, or anyone for that matter, from raping children. Seems like it might be a worthy investment of His time.
Other than the last one, you just proved my point. None of it based on whether it's real, or whether they actually believe it's real.
Didn't you say that you are going to church weekly? If so, it sounds like you have some serious questions about faith. Maybe you could talk to the priest/preacher or someone on the church staff and let them give you their thoughts. Not trying to get in your business, I'm just thinking getting answers from someone more knowledgeable might help clarify things for you.
Was it auto correct or do you think the saying is "blimp on the radar"?
It is blip in case you intended that.
Yes, be kind. Give freely of your own resources, and I'll give what I can of mine. But nowhere does it say you are allowed to give my resources away. And especially not to any Tom, Dick or Harry who wanders over the border and wants free stuff. Give them your own stuff, not mine.
Good thing, as a devout Catholic, Ole Miss is no stranger to me. I hope we ruin their time in Starkville.
Not quite. The doctrine is infallible when speaking ex Cathedra on matters of faith. Not just infallible period. But let's be honest. We all know that's impossible just like the rest of it.
Yes, I quoted that from Jesus, but what's your point? Do you somehow interpret that as "the government can take all my money and do whatever they want"...? Because that's not what it means at all.
I pay taxes. I give to charity. I believe I'm following that rule. I don't feel like the government should over-collect from me what I don't fairly owe, and I damn sure don't believe they should then take that money and support unrighteous causes.