FLO has removed Josh Barr from the rankings due to inactivity and has Connor ranked at 10. Team Rankings has Ohio State #1 at 104 and Penn State #2 with 103.
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FLO Rankings 12-9-2025 Ohio State #1
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(tic) At last a real team race...
Can you spell C-L-I-C-K B-A-I-T
Guess Pat Kraft has to get back to doing the dirty work. Will Matt Rhule recommend Manning, who did more with less?
Reslistically, with a relative hole at 141 and it looking like a non AA at 197 and Hwt, it gives the possibility of another team finishing ahead of PSU this year.
Now, if I were a betting man, you would need to give me about 50 points for me to take OSU at the NCAA tourney.
Now, if I were a betting man, you would need to give me about 50 points for me to take OSU at the NCAA tourney.
It’s nice being the underdog again 
Similiar to when FLO had us ranked 6th pre season the year we had Nolf, Nickal and Nevills coming in to their redshirt freshman years
Similiar to when FLO had us ranked 6th pre season the year we had Nolf, Nickal and Nevills coming in to their redshirt freshman years
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If you go to website it's updated. If using the Flo App, it's behind (it's a glitch they have)
lol not clickbait...i removed Josh Barr, along with every other wrestler that hasn't competed since 2025 NCAAs or before. The team ranking is just a formula based on the individual rankings so Penn State lost Barr's 20 points and Mirasola is only ranked 10th (that's 2 points). I was as surprised as anyone when it had Penn State second.
Nah. He has been using "Recruiting National Champs" for years.
Why do you guys have a blurb about removing CJ Composto from the rankings at 133?
He's never been a 133.
Like your input in FRL. Two modest proposals for future shows:
1. More of David Bray’s pick the false tournament name out of 3 choices
2. More Cyon or a game where you come up with Cyon-esque names for wrestlers - since he almost always comically botches them (e.g. Luke Sandwich instead of Stanich, etc)
Cyon rules!
John..most here understand how the rankings work. It's still silly to see the team that's won 74 duals in a row and the last 4 national titles with 7 high AA's returning and the other 3 are Blaze, Duke and Mirasola being ranked 2nd in any format
You do a much better job than JD or Spey...and explain yourself well.
Also..appreciate you defending yourself against JD and Pyles yesterday on the show with regards to Duke. If you would have kept Rozynski over Duke, a few of us may have stormed your Austin headquarters
That's on me - i was going through the weight classes to make sure we mentioned all of the guys that were removed and inserted the blurb about Composto in 133 by accident. Thanks for letting me know - just made the fix.
It's unique for sure, and to be honest, I don't love the optics of it. It would have been easy to just fudge the numbers to keep Penn State #1 but I obviously didn't do that lol.John..most here understand how the rankings work. It's still silly to see the team that's won 74 duals in a row and the last 4 national titles with 7 high AA's returning and the other 3 are Blaze, Duke and Mirasola being ranked 2nd in any format
You do a much better job than JD or Spey...and explain yourself well.
Also..appreciate you defending yourself against JD and Pyles yesterday on the show with regards to Duke. If you would have kept Rozynski over Duke, a few of us may have stormed your Austin headquarters
The way I look at rankings is that they're a reflection of the current picture of each weight class based on results. So if NCAAs were wrestled today, the guys in the top 33 would be the NCAA field and their rankings would be the seeds. Penn State's in a very unique position this year with 4 freshmen and a missing NCAA champ.
The only one I can argue with you that may tip the scales it at 197. You have Mirasola behind Geog.
Mirasola career record 14-0. Geog 30-15. Geog doesn't have a win better than Parker. Not sure what Geog has done to get in top 10 when he's never beaten anyone within top 15
Again..splitting hairs, and doesn't matter much as this will play itself out
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This is only going to drive so much traffic, if you're going to be stupid then go all the way and rank them 8-10.
Mirasola in the top 8 would do it - wrestlers ranked 9-12 get the same amount of team points. So even if we swapped Geog and Mirasola, the team scores would remain the same.
That will change when he faces Cardenes at collegiate Duals.
Should Geog be in top 12? He never beat anyone that high has he? Parker was 8 when Connor beat him
Hell..you have Rademacher at 4 who's best win is Parker and he only beat him by 3 where Connor majored him. Rademacher career 30-12 vs Connor 14-0.
Rankings are so subjective even though you and others try to be objective. Almost better off just doing predictions. If freestyle doesn't count Rademacher should be ranked below Connor or Connor above him. If freestyle does count then Duke and Blaze should be 1
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Not many here are upset at all.. It will all play out the way we think and the way you do as well...
Many still believe in Santa and @pawrstlersinpa still thinks wrestle stat is the gospel..
Everyone posting here, including me, wants to always see Penn State at the top, no matter if it's just rankings or actual competition. The guys at Flo are trying to use an objective methodology, and I would advise them to stick to their guns. Every top team is going have an argument on why some of their guys should get better consideration.
And look how the football playoffs have worked out since they use rankings to choose who plays and who doesn't. Notre Dame is pulling a Spencer Lee and walking out since they won't be competing for the championship. Assuming everyone is healthy at the end of the year, everyone on Flo's list will get their chance for the top spot.
And look how the football playoffs have worked out since they use rankings to choose who plays and who doesn't. Notre Dame is pulling a Spencer Lee and walking out since they won't be competing for the championship. Assuming everyone is healthy at the end of the year, everyone on Flo's list will get their chance for the top spot.
Have I got good news for you, John. Using my model for expected placement, expected advancement, and expected bonus points Penn State is still just barely ahead.
But the heat is definitely on.
The banner is going up in Covelli Center as we speak.
We have a lot of upside at 133, 157, and 197, while OSU is pretty much at its maximum.
It's understandable, though; they are off to a fast start. We have barely started and have four freshmen in the lineup (five last weekend).
It's understandable, though; they are off to a fast start. We have barely started and have four freshmen in the lineup (five last weekend).
Yeah - well wait until they get off the bus after that long ride from Columbus.The banner is going up in Covelli Center as we speak.
This is totally unrelated, but if you could mention it to those with the ability to fix it, my legalistic brain would appreciate it : ) In many freestyle videos the weights are listed in pounds instead of kilograms. For instance, this match with Marcus Blaze is listed as 61 lb.:
https://www.flowrestling.org/video/...no-ohio-rtc-titan-mercury-wrestling-club-tmwc
Say what? I can countenance a good deal, but casting aspersions about Santa's existence is a bridge too far! Keep up that scurrilous behavior and we are going to have to meet under some bridge in the North Pole!
There's obviously the bigger hole of zero projection of bonus points, even if limited to competition against top 33 opponents / top 16 / top 8 / top 4 / top 2 (if you want to get fancy like I suppose only @Wrestleknownothing could).
I suggest you subcontract to him and create a some kind of product discriminator for your NCAA scoring projections.
Pat Craft thanks you for drumming up enthusiasm and attendance for the upcoming PSU/tOSU dual/beatdown.
That match reminds me: all three of the U20 eligible guys ranked above MB (WrestleStat) got smoked by him this spring/summer. Davino, Fugitt and Larkin all got lit up. Zero takedowns given up in four matches. 31 points scored, 1 scored against him. Unless he ducks, Tyler Knox (Flo #6) will be his next higher-ranked victim.
61 lbs 3rd Place Match - Marcus Blaze, Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC) vs Benjamin Davino, Ohio RTC/ Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC)
61 lbs 3rd Place Match - Marcus Blaze, Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC) vs Benjamin Davino, Ohio RTC/ Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC)
61 kg 1st Place Match - Marcus Blaze, Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC) vs Zan Fugitt, Wisconsin Regional Training Center
61 kg 1st Place Match - Marcus Blaze, Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC) vs Zan Fugitt, Wisconsin Regional Training Center
Exactly, Not necessary to bring the fat guy into the conversation!! Pick on the groundhog or someone else!!
That's what happens when you rip someone's arm off. 3rd period majors trending to tech then Injury defaults, count for nothing - according to Christian Pyles. PJ is lucky he didn't drop a few slots.
Hey, can I rename my 401k, Nebraska?
If anybody truly has heartburn over a December ranking:
Would you rather have Ferrari beat Feldman?
Because that would've made PSU #1 today.
Would you rather have Ferrari beat Feldman?
Because that would've made PSU #1 today.
Say what you will, tOSU has a very good dual team. It will be closer than most think but if we go in injury free it's probably 8-2 best case with a couple toss ups/lean PSUs thrown in for good measure. 6-4 is probably worst case. However, if Luke were to get caught things could get very interesting.