For those that believe this issue is extremely serious and are following closely

[ganner918_rivals60369]

PS - not one of those things you posted addressed the claim "most scientists said the world's coast would be under water 20 years ago and the world would be dead to carbon gases and rising temps 20 years ago."

I'm done with the unproductive climate change diversion unless you care to address this specific point, which was posted as a counter to what scientists are saying about this virus.

 

[sluggercatfan]

Your derangement is showing. He never said the virus is a hoax. He clearly said the Democrats politicizing it to get an advantage in November is the new hoax. Meaning they Are saying the virus is his fault it’s in the US. I can’t believe I have to explain this to you. Actually I can. You are a liberal.

They can't even hear what the POTUS is saying...hatred is a very bad thing and will make you say stupid stuff.

 

[KyFaninNC]

PS - not one of those things you posted addressed the claim "most scientists said the world's coast would be under water 20 years ago and the world would be dead to carbon gases and rising temps 20 years ago."

I'm done with the unproductive climate change diversion unless you care to address this specific point, which was posted as a counter to what scientists are saying about this virus.

Me too because it is clear to me that no matter what is posted, you will refute it. So you and Greta and Al continue on.

 

[UKUGA]

**not political**

I think this is another problem with the media not being believable to most people. When you’re used to seeing hot take after hot take and BOMBSHELL every other second and it all ends up pointless nonsense, people aren’t going to respond.

Hell the last 3 years we’ve had other viruses and the the BOMBSHELL ALERT EBOLA crisis. I don’t think it’s as much fault of regular people as much as the media in general.

I've been mildly entertained by the liberal government and media being offended at the liberal NBA and its players getting tested.

The free market at work.

The NBA teams have partnerships with various hospitals that have developed private tests (UCLA Med Center, Cleveland Clinic, etc.) that can provide these tests to wealthy athletes at a $$$.

Meanwhile, De Blasio says that "critically ill" people are not being tested.

Well, if they are "critically ill", why are we not treating them?

Forget the test, start treating the symptoms until you can test them.

I understand that knowing exactly what someone has allows for the best treatment, but it's not as if we know exactly how to treat this thing.

 

[OHIO COLONEL]

Read a news story this morning where a couple companies now have in-home testing. Cost of the one was about $180. Guess you contact them (phone or net I guess) and go over symptoms with them...and if it meets the criteria for this virus, they express mail/ship a testing kit, then you swab and return to them and you get the result in 48 hours.
Seems like the private sector has kicked it into overdrive in coming up with possible solutions, etc.

 

[LexCatnOhio]

A state of emergency or national emergency opens up funding... it really doesn't mean anything other than having a blank check. This is a glorified cold there's a pandemic of the common cold at any given time you've just accepted it as a part of life

When you come face to face with this and you will. You’ll see this puts a common cold in a pipe and smokes it.

 

[LexCatnOhio]

I've been mildly entertained by the liberal government and media being offended at the liberal NBA and its players getting tested.

The free market at work.

The NBA teams have partnerships with various hospitals that have developed private tests (UCLA Med Center, Cleveland Clinic, etc.) that can provide these tests to wealthy athletes at a $$$.

Meanwhile, De Blasio says that "critically ill" people are not being tested.

Well, if they are "critically ill", why are we not treating them?

Forget the test, start treating the symptoms until you can test them.

I understand that knowing exactly what someone has allows for the best treatment, but it's not as if we know exactly how to treat this thing.

What should we treat them with? There’s no magic wand here. This virus is a new strain and wildly complicated. It has already mutated from the strain from Wuhan. That’s why you’re seeing kids get it more now. Imagine it is like HIV. We can avoid it and protect ourselves but we cannot cure it. This virus can take 30% of your lung capacity even if you’re healthy and survive. I work in a hospital and no one is blowing this off anymore after we started getting these patients.

 

[AirRaidFreshman76]

When you come face to face with this and you will. You’ll see this puts a common cold in a pipe and smokes it.

great. I still don't agree with drowning the economy and turning the country into North Korea

I've talked to many people who are being ruined economically and I still don't know a soul with this so called virus

 

[starchief]

Read a news story this morning where a couple companies now have in-home testing. Cost of the one was about $180. Guess you contact them (phone or net I guess) and go over symptoms with them...and if it meets the criteria for this virus, they express mail/ship a testing kit, then you swab and return to them and you get the result in 48 hours.
Seems like the private sector has kicked it into overdrive in coming up with possible solutions, etc.

Capitalism at its finest. If there is a buck to be made some entreperneur will find a solution long before any official agency will.

 

[Baller Cal]

great. I still don't agree with drowning the economy and turning the country into North Korea

I've talked to many people who are being ruined economically and I still don't know a soul with this so called virus

A couple of weeks now to see if we can contain it or do nothing at all and possibly expose millions to it in very short period of time. Seems like an easy choice.

 

[Baller Cal]

Yeah I'm willing to say fine if it is a couple weeks but I'm sure it won't be and the restrictions will be abused by left wing would be dictator governors. If Obama was still in office and there was a pandemic like this killing a lot more people it wouldn't be even a story...oh wait that already happened during swine flu

Agree totally. Hope it only last 2 weeks but almost sure if will go at least 6.

 

[AirRaidFreshman76]

Agree totally. Hope it only last 2 weeks but almost sure if will go at least 6.

We cannot survive six weeks of the economy handcuffed. That would be like breaking your thumb and amputating your arm. Unless there's something more sinister going on and this is being done on purpose

 

[AirRaidFreshman76]

They can't even hear what the POTUS is saying...hatred is a very bad thing and will make you say stupid stuff.

the Dems have done almost nothing but lie and sensationalize this entire thing. And their media puppets too. I actually feel sorry for people that are still listening to them. When this blows over all their credibility is going to be gone

 

[Baller Cal]

the Dems have done almost nothing but lie and sensationalize this entire thing. And their media puppets too. I actually feel sorry for people that are still listening to them. When this blows over all their credibility is going to be gone

Dems: “We got him now!!!!”

Sick stuff.

 

[Crawfords Corner]

4825 Italian deaths now. How many of those are from people being left to die because of a lack of manpower and equipment/resources.

 

[Baller Cal]

We cannot survive six weeks of the economy handcuffed. That would be like breaking your thumb and amputating your arm. Unless there's something more sinister going on and this is being done on purpose

Well we’ll see, but I can’t see Restaurants opening en mass on April 1st since this thing is going to keep spiking with additional testing.

 

[AirRaidFreshman76]

4825 Italian deaths now. How many of those are from people being left to die because of a lack of manpower and equipment/resources.

socialist healthcare kills. Won't happen here imo

 

[AirRaidFreshman76]

Well we’ll see, but I can’t see Restaurants opening en mass on April 1st since this thing is going to keep spiking with additional testing.

So in other words it was a self fulfilling prophecy that it was going to get worse. But if the death rate stays low here and we have a zillion cases then who really cares it's no worse than the usual flu season

 

[Baller Cal]

So in other words it was a self fulfilling prophecy that it was going to get worse. But if the death rate stays low here and we have a zillion cases then who really cares it's no worse than the usual flu season

Not worth debating IMO since neither of us can control what happens. Take care.

 

[AirRaidFreshman76]

That's another reason this so called emergency is so phony. No way any of these states are gonna go without their alcohol or tobacco tax money. Hence liquor stores are essential. It's mafia tactics

 

[KyFaninNC]

Everything else is closed or closing, why is the NYSE still open and still tanking everyone's 401K's? Shut that **** hole down.

 

[TurnipDaBeet]

Ask Turnip

 

[The-Hack]

Meanwhile, De Blasio says that "critically ill" people are not being tested.

Well, if they are "critically ill", why are we not treating them?

Forget the test, start treating the symptoms until you can test them.

Perhaps unlike the NBA, they are uninsured.

Your proposed solution: “test and treat them” sounds like a prescription or acceptance of socialized medicine.

 

[The-Hack]

No way any of these states are gonna go without their alcohol or tobacco tax money.

We want as our governments to have some tax money, or then they lay off the cops, and government health workers.

And in a national emergency, I would prefer not to have 7 million alcoholics showing up with DT’s when my grandad needs a ventilator.

 

[The-Hack]

socialist healthcare kills. Won't happen here imo

Italy has more beds/capacity than the US.

 

[AirRaidFreshman76]

Italy has more beds/capacity than the US.

apparently not. They're also the second oldest country in the world next to japan

 

[The-Hack]

apparently not. They're also the second oldest country in the world next to japan

Italy is 3.2 beds per thousand and US is 2.8 beds per thousand.

“According to a 2018 survey by the American Hospital Association, hospitals in the United States have a total of 924,100 beds, about 2.8 hospital beds per 1,000 people. (This includes all of the beds currently occupied by patients.)

By comparison, this figure is exceptionally low. Italy has 3.2 beds per 1,000 people. China has 4.3 beds per 1,000 people. France has 6.5 per 1,000, . . . .”

 

[AirRaidFreshman76]

Italy is 3.2 beds per thousand and US is 2.8 beds per thousand.

“According to a 2018 survey by the American Hospital Association, hospitals in the United States have a total of 924,100 beds, about 2.8 hospital beds per 1,000 people. (This includes all of the beds currently occupied by patients.)

By comparison, this figure is exceptionally low. Italy has 3.2 beds per 1,000 people. China has 4.3 beds per 1,000 people. France has 6.5 per 1,000, . . . .”

ok great man what is your point? They also have a ton of travel with the Chinese a lot more than we do. That whole country is in bed with China literally and figuratively. We are not gonna have the same problem that they had with this. We have better medicine here. Nobody here is flocking to Italy for their medical system. I don't look to Europe to solve anything with their open borders and their socialism. Beds schmeds.

 

[Baller Cal]

ok great man what is your point? They also have a ton of travel with the Chinese a lot more than we do. That whole country is in bed with China literally and figuratively. We are not gonna have the same problem that they had with this. We have better medicine here. Nobody here is flocking to Italy for their medical system. I don't look to Europe to solve anything with their open borders and their socialism. Beds schmeds.

You need to chill out man. Do you have six small children sitting next to you, driving you crazy? You seem to have gone insane over this.

 

[The-Hack]

ok great man what is your point?

Accuracy and information in a time of uncertainty.

 

[The-Hack]

We are not gonna have the same problem that they had with this. We have better medicine here.

I hope. I think we got a better jump on it than they did, outside of New York.

Europe has a far higher population density, and we are fast in our way to a warm Spring.

 

[morgousky]

So is open borders still a popular position among “some” Americans today?

Maybe we’re starting to wake up and realize we need to end this globalist push and take care of our own?

Maybe? Hopefully?

Maybe we should stop allowing our politicians to sell us to China? Maybe?

 

[Baller Cal]

Lady reporter in Italy just said they have less reported cases today than they did yesterday, so that's obviously good to hear.

 

[JumperJack]

Lady reporter in Italy just said they have less reported cases today than they did yesterday, so that's obviously good to hear.

We’re going to have some massive changes coming up to be able to reopen society.

 

[UKUGA]

What should we treat them with? There’s no magic wand here. This virus is a new strain and wildly complicated. It has already mutated from the strain from Wuhan. That’s why you’re seeing kids get it more now. Imagine it is like HIV. We can avoid it and protect ourselves but we cannot cure it. This virus can take 30% of your lung capacity even if you’re healthy and survive. I work in a hospital and no one is blowing this off anymore after we started getting these patients.

You are kind of making my point.

If you don't for sure how to treat the virus, then why is it a big deal to know for sure that they have it?

If they are sick and in the hospital, treat the symptons based upon medical expertise.

According to you, even the positive test doesn't provide keen insight into exactly what to do.

So, why again, exactly, are we criticizing Lebron James for being tested, when "critically ill" patients haven't been?

 

[BlueVelvetFog]

I don’t have an issue w people taking this seriously. I don’t even have a problem listening to people in the medical profession talking about it. I hate people that appoint themselves the “Catpaw STEM” expert while talking down to other people. I don’t give a ****—quit being an ***.

 

[LexCatnOhio]

You are kind of making my point.

If you don't for sure how to treat the virus, then why is it a big deal to know for sure that they have it?

If they are sick and in the hospital, treat the symptons based upon medical expertise.

According to you, even the positive test doesn't provide keen insight into exactly what to do.

So, why again, exactly, are we criticizing Lebron James for being tested, when "critically ill" patients haven't been?

Actually I’m making the opposite of your point. Do you want HIV? No you don’t do you? It can kill you and we all know this right? We don’t understand HIV and we don’t test every human for it. So why would anyone want a virus and blow it off if you know it’s something that kills people and we don’t have a cure. And identifying positive cases is huge for future prevention. You can isolate the people that have it and it cannot be spread to those around them. I’m all for testing everyone who wants it.

 

[rqa]

So is open borders still a popular position among “some” Americans today?

Maybe we’re starting to wake up and realize we need to end this globalist push and take care of our own?

Maybe? Hopefully?

Maybe we should stop allowing our politicians to sell us to China? Maybe?

Dude, there are currently more cases in Ky than in all of Mexico. As soon as this thing gets over the pipelines of trade will continue and borders will be open. That genie isn’t going back into the bottle.

 

[Baller Cal]

Last week Bill Hemmer said South Korea was the model we wanted at 1.2% death rate. Now, today, the death rate in New York is .93 percent....The two week shutdown was necessary and is having great effects. America goes back to work April 1st, book it.

 

[rqa]

Last week Bill Hemmer said South Korea was the model we wanted at 1.2% death rate. Now, today, the death rate in New York is .93 percent....The two week shutdown was necessary and is having great effects. America goes back to work April 1st, book it.

I caution anyone to look at or take stock in death rates especially comparing one nation to another.
Very few cases in the US have had outcomes. An outcome is when the person is either cured or dead. In the US only 688 people have had outcomes...501 of those outcomes have been death. All other cases are active.
World wide 252K of 369K cases are active...and that number is growing currently about 35K/day. About 1.6% of the closed cases have ended in death.