FSU Sends First Shot Across the Acc Bow
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Yeah, all I was told was that it would be 2 to 3 years, and there was various avenues. They were exploring, but that they were extremely confident that it would get done.
Because essentially, they did not have a choice if they wanted to compete at a high-level moving forward
I wish Rutgers cared more about athletics
Having season tickets for football, men’s basketball, wrestling and lacrosse, the potential is there to do so much more than we’re currently doing
You wanted people to say I'm wrong well I'll say I'm wrong.
I'm not saying you're going to get out of the GOR for sure but I can actually see a possible light at the end of the tunnel. Whether that's freedom or a train I don't know lol but before I only saw the train haha.
Lol honestly, it’s not about who’s right and wrong, I literally just went by what I heard from guys were more connected and I am
A deal will get done, it’s just a matter of where, when, and at what cost
In hindsight, it’s crazy to see what college athletics is becoming, it is essentially the NFL lite
That’s 100 % not the goal or why they’re doing any of this
It DID.. you have to back to think about it. ACC had all these bowl deals and the bowl committees were getting upset that none of the ACC teams were highly ranked.. then they added FSU which was often in the MNC mix. And when FSU sank to the typical ACC level they added Miami and while Miami did not win enough to make a difference from that point forward, its past seasons counted toward the ACC keeping its AQ status as there was some rule, that had targeted the raided Big East conference, but applied more to the ACC than the Big East. That BCS rule was that if a conference champ, 4 years in a row, was not Top 12 (12? 15?) then the conference lost its AQ status.
In short, adding FSU gave the ACC a good decade where contemplation of such a rule would never apply to them.
GOR should be illegal.
Well. at some point FSU football melded back into the mediocrity that is ACC football... until Dabo brought Clemson back. But, yeah, FSU has a storied football rep that they brought to the ACC. The ACC definitely benefitted.
Last 7 years have been tough but last year was good
Lost decade was tough as well even though we won the league a few times
That guy puts out all kinds of stuff. He throws literally anything and everything against the wall.
Stick with reliable mainstream CFB reporters or at least guys like your Nee who report on these fan sites. Much better chance of accurate info.
I think there’s a shot for you now but who knows timetables and I’m sure the ACC will fight it.
Gene and Ira usually never make direct statements, they generally talk around a question and speak like a politician
The fact that he’s on record and putting his reputation out there, like Nee did last week, is pretty telling
Nah he puts out lots of stuff and has changed his name a few times too. I haven’t bothered looking at his stuff in forever because it’s just junk in years.
Your contacts at FSU and FSU fan sites like this and CFB media are better sources. This guy is just an attention seeker and at best a broken clock.
Every time I’ve heard him talk, he basically says nothing and acts like he knows everything
I don’t follow him on Twitter though, so I will take your word for it, as he is definitely suspect
I’m surprised no talk in this thread in a week. The ACC deadline to leave in 2024 is Tuesday. Obviously FSU wants out asap.
Have they aligned everything to handle the insanely huge GOR issue? Or do they need to continue working on it and they don’t get out until 2025?
I like knowing in a few days for certain.
Have they aligned everything to handle the insanely huge GOR issue? Or do they need to continue working on it and they don’t get out until 2025?
I like knowing in a few days for certain.
In recent years, it seems like every time we heard about a shake-up in a conference it happened. I'd be surprised if nothing happens this time.
I've heard no announcement this year, but next year they'll make one and be out by 2025
And I assume at this point they’d be heading to the big ten? Seems like they’re interested in going national and getting out of the UF shadow.
Admin overwhelmingly wants B1G, most Boosters / fans want SEC
B1G is preference for a variety of reasons, differentiating themselves from UF definitely at the top of the list
SEC doesn't want then-----doesn't appear as though they think they need them.
Ditto Clemson
I cannot see the Big Ten taking either of them . They don't fit the Big Ten model.
Ditto Clemson
I cannot see the Big Ten taking either of them . They don't fit the Big Ten model.
They'll be in one of the 2 conferences
Hard to see the SEC letting the B1G into FL and SC
Noles definitely fit into the B1G model
Clemson is iffy
FSU might have a big roadblock in the Gators fighting their invite.
Clemson might have South Carolina opposing them, but the opposition might not be strong enough to stop it now.
I heard, but can't say true, Florida was totally against FSU joining and South Carolina wanted no part of Clemson being in the SEC
I could see the B1G wanting a presence in Florida and FSU would make a great addition.
Clemson might be a good get , but might not meet the requirements for that most B1G schools want and that could leave them out in cold if the ACC folds.
Personalty , without one bit of creditable info backing it, I feel Notre Dame
isn't too happy with the ACC over the vote keeping Cal and Stanford out and won't lift a finger to help keep the conference together and might like the idea of if the ACC goes kaput they won't be obligated to play 4-5 ACC teams a year because their other sports are ACC members.
UF sponsored them in the early 90's, before that though they blocked them at least once
Their was the alledged gentelemen's agreement w/UF, USC etc to block FSU & Clemson - not sure on validity of that though
Agree ND doesn't like it b/c they were the ones vouching for them. To which nobody gives a damn what ND likes and doesn't like, as ND is out for ND, always has been and always will be
And truthfully, I don't blame ND as their brand is what it is b/c of their independance and past success, which has led them to have the ability to dictate terms
This time though, for once, they're not getting their way
not getting their own way is right, but from what I could see is that even though they are independent in football they are locked in to playing ACC teams 4-5 games a year and the ACC breaking up would end that.
Also, because of others sports and football commiment thy would pay a hefty fee to leave before the GOR expired or conference broke-up.
With being rejected now, if the time comes that Notre Dame can help keep the ACC together they might just remember their wish being shot down and
make the ACC pay dearly for their help or just walk away because of their wishes being refused and be free of the ACC football commitment while placing their other programs in a conference ( Big East?) .
They're always looking out for themselves
It's part arrogance, part they can do it b/c theyve earned the right to do it
However, all these leagues (big east and acc) keep bending over backwards to accomodate them
Maybe that'll stop, maybe not
Vote was 8-4----can't blame those in the least who voted against them.
In the 2 sports that write the checks in the ACC Stanford and Cal bring nothing.
They bring neither quality teams or viewers. Why would you want them ?
They will need to pay close to 100 million and not have a home game televised for 10 years.
GOR is as solid as a rock-----they signed it. No one put a gun to their head.
True but in fairness it's been Clemson and 13 dwarfs
Before that it was all FSU
Exit fee is 120 mil - money already raised
GOR who knows - estimates have ranged from 300 mil - 900 mil - combo of boosters, liquidating assets and JPM taking care of that
Mark my words, we'll be out by 2025
ESPN "advised" ACC on various expansions.. they had teh ACC management in their pocket all this time and got that GOR and how did that serve the ACC members? Disney/ABC/ESPN will end up having been poison to the ACC.
Oh come on.. you see where the ACC is now and where the Big Ten is. The depth issue is no contest. Are you that defensive regarding your Fightin' Irish? Are you nervous? You need not be. Come on into the Big Ten.. just do it.
Both leagues are top heavy
B1G is Buckeye and Mich
ACC is Clemson & Noles
You guys have made playoffs and gotten your doors blown off
No nattys since 1989
Noles 3 since then
Clemson 3 since then
Buckeye 2 I believe
Who else in the Big Ten has won one.
We've won 53 games in the last 5 years-----that's as good as we're going to do.
It's a different world out there now. The elite kid is interested in getting to the league in 3 not taking 2 semesters of calculus in his freshman year. We can be a very good program but not a matchup for the top of the heap SEC programs IMO. That's just the way it is.
We have the Buckeyes, Clemson and USC on the schedule this Fall------should be interesting .
As to FSU----IMO it's SEC or bust for them . The Big Ten will never take them.
They don't fit the model of a Big Ten member especially academically .
It's a high school with ash trays.
We've won 53 games in the last 5 years-----that's as good as we're going to do.
It's a different world out there now. The elite kid is interested in getting to the league in 3 not taking 2 semesters of calculus in his freshman year. We can be a very good program but not a matchup for the top of the heap SEC programs IMO. That's just the way it is.
We have the Buckeyes, Clemson and USC on the schedule this Fall------should be interesting .
As to FSU----IMO it's SEC or bust for them . The Big Ten will never take them.
They don't fit the model of a Big Ten member especially academically .
It's a high school with ash trays.