George Kurtz we need you!!!
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I hope he watches the games and leaves a very bad taste in his mouth that we are losing to teams primarily because they have double or triple our payroll with jerk coaches…like me.
Or maybe he only cares about contributing to academic priorities rather than sponsoring a minor league pro team.
Wish he would give but you gotta respect a guy who possibly values his money and doesn’t want to invest in this filthy world.
Which is fine but I hope he also wants to see the basketball team be a premier program. If he doesn’t that is his business. I would never tell him or anyone else how to spend their money.
unfortunately and right or wrong, in today’s world college sports requires a small number of major contributors.
unfortunately and right or wrong, in today’s world college sports requires a small number of major contributors.
He deals w wall street. Talk about a filthy world
As much as I love the school and as an SHU fan I am, if I was in his position, I don’t think I would fork over that money for minor league basketball every year.
You earn money back with wall st it’s a necessary evil. What do you earn back with NIL?
So you don’t think he should donate money to our NIL. It’s only money that he can’t take with him when he is no longer of this world. As long as he secures his and his family’s future as a billionaire, millions really don’t mean much in his life. I’m not saying we should tell him where to invest his money, but it would be really nice if he developed a passion for Seton Hall men’s basketball. And of course, a poster like you, would advocate that he not donate his money to his alma mater’s premier sports team. I therefore question whether you really are a fan of our program.
I don't because it's an endless money pit. I once dealt with a man who was worth close to $1B. Truly not a close to Kurtz's level. He was competitive and investing in many things. He was never into just throwing money into money pits.
For anyone with true money, This is extortion with the only return being a smile on his face. He can invest in racing. Get the same smile on his face and make money doing it.
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I would never tell someone where they should spend their money. I’m sure there are people that find joy in donating to NIL, but I think no more or no less of Kurtz if he chooses to donate or not. Does that make me less of a fan?
85, For whatever reason my iPhone will not allow me to insert quotes.
You have the right to express your views whichever way you want to regarding wealthy alumni donations. I totally get that people have free speech rights, and certainly the right to donate or don’t donate their monies . As far as the other poster is concerned, I have yet to see a positive post from him. Moreover, it’s one thing to express your views regarding wealthy alumni donations, it’s quite another thing to suggest that they shouldn’t make contributions. Maybe it’s a fine line, but fans who post nothing but negative views have zero credibility in my book. You are certainly not one of them..
You have the right to express your views whichever way you want to regarding wealthy alumni donations. I totally get that people have free speech rights, and certainly the right to donate or don’t donate their monies . As far as the other poster is concerned, I have yet to see a positive post from him. Moreover, it’s one thing to express your views regarding wealthy alumni donations, it’s quite another thing to suggest that they shouldn’t make contributions. Maybe it’s a fine line, but fans who post nothing but negative views have zero credibility in my book. You are certainly not one of them..
Would trying to recreate the incredible surge of publicity that SHU got in 89 tempt you?
It is still SETON HALL.
Contributions to NIL? Pay people with no tangible return on your investment. If I had Kurtz;s money the only things I'd do with my money that had no finacial return on investment is pay for people's cancer treatments and injured military personnel who need assistance, not those who are going to extort me for money then if they have a good year going to try and extort me for more money and threaten to go to another school the next year if I don't pay up. Go extort some other fool like Repole. I'd like to use my money for good in the world. If you want to know why society is screwed up, look at the priorities here. It's a great example.
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Thanks for your response and I agree, I won’t tell another alumni what to do, but I won’t tell them to not do something. The thought of imposing our views on another person is out of bounds IMO.
I am not bashful about expressing my views and I don’t mind debating those that disagree. I think we can both sniff out posters with extreme agendas and in fact I’m shocked some poster didn’t start a Fire Sha thread today….lol
I’m at a different point in my life as is the “game college basketball. I don’t have a Mike Repole ego or that much love for a school that gives me pause for the way it has managed itself of late.
I had a positive experience at SHU and the up and down of hoops has provided joy. I also enjoyed seeing kids like Jerry Walker, Mike Nzei, Ike Obiagu and others make the most of there time at SHU and go on to be professional successes. Rooting for the laundry now…89 is in the rear view mirror.
My college basketball season is over today. I’ll participate in a couple of MM pools but if I watch two total hours of MM it will be a lot. Will kick back and watch The Players Championship this weekend and Masters next month. You can find me on my bike on a rail trail or on the golf course or with the grandkids. And I can give you a long list of causes I would give that $10 million each year if I had it that would give me much greater joy.
I would hope anyone on this board can respect my wishes as I would respect theirs.
What about NIL is a tangible return? Florida won a national title last year did their contributors get a ring? What did they get? As I noted there are non tangible things in the world like cancer and veterans needs that are infinitely times more worthy than NIL. You know a guy with that much money donates more to great causes like those, he gets a tangible return from his other investments.
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If it gives the donor joy and a feeling of purpose that’s all they may need. I doubt Repole thinks about ROI, and I’m not saying if it’s ego driven it’s a bad thing. I would wager to guess that Joe Topper is writing a check comparable to Repole and he does it for the love of VU. Do we really think Villanova has a bigger war chest because of their general fan base? The difference between Topper and Repole is that Joe chooses to be more low key in public. But next time you watch VU, he’s sitting right behind
Kevin. Joe has also chosen to direct most of his fortune to much more worthy causes like a cancer center that is part of Jefferson Health.
To each their own. I would just say in my eyes what goes on is extortion. If people want to be involved with it, good for them. I could also see why people would flip the bird at the whole world of college sports. If I had that money I would. If I got $8 billion no entitled 18 year old is going to have the option to tell me pay me more or I'm going else where.
I bet Repole is getting EXACTLY WHAT HE HOPED FOR. He doesnt need to touch it.
His newest business venture -- No Bull -- is also advertised all over the place with SJU basketball, at the Garden, etc. If you went to our regular season game at MSG this year you saw that (I wasn't there yesterday, so no clue if it was different b/c of the Big East tourney).
He got a second round exit last year. This year, they're rather untested the last 3 months other than UConn. Hope they represent the big east well, but if you look at what they did in the non conference when they were tested it wasn't very good. The one thing about the big east when you go back 5+ years everyone who made the tournament was battle tested. In this new world, that's not true anymore. Hope they are ready. I'm not sure they have the guard play.
Regarding Kurtz...Of course I hope he decides to support the BB program. But with that said he does donate to the school's education department. And from what I hear many other philanthropist causes.
If that's how he wants to share his money instead of supporting the BB program, I will be disappointed but completely understand.
If that's how he wants to share his money instead of supporting the BB program, I will be disappointed but completely understand.
And he walks into MSG for any game and sees a full house, he reads the papers, he watches TV and he knows SJU is back, and I helped. Mayve he stops if they dont do better. I bet this ride he helped fuel is worth it to him.
This. And btw, lots of these guys who donate to the athletics also donate to numerous educational or philanthropic endeavors. I don't tell other people how to spend their money because I don't want other people telling me how to spend mine.
Regarding myself...I always ask but never demand that our fan base supports the school. And then note that if you chose not to that's your choice and I understand.
Personally, the school has done more for me than I can ever repay. But not everyone feels that way. I hope more feel as I do than less.
Personally, the school has done more for me than I can ever repay. But not everyone feels that way. I hope more feel as I do than less.
I completely agree with the school. The school helped better many tremendous people I know, but individual players haven't and individual players who are willing to leave the school less than 12 months don't share the same respect for the school that many of us who care about the school do.
Anyone can do whatever they want. Call me crazy, but I wouldn't take $1 of my donation money which I believe is better served at St. Jude's or with veterans who lost limbs and redirect it to college athletes who will likely end up blowing most of it.
Wondering this aversion to supporting college athletes extends to pro sports, movies, music, all fields with people making tons and many acting like clowns. And that is one helluvan assumption about players "being likely", tho I am sure some kids will be foolish.
For me, at this point in my life, I enjoy live entertainnent from SHU hoops players more than anyone. Makes no sense to me why they dont deserve compensation, tho how they get paid is ridiculous.
I pay for the ticket to the game. No issue with going to be entertained watching sports but for as long as I've been alive the players salaries were baked into my ticket price. I'm not paying for tickets then have to pay for the salaries on top of it. I'll pay to see a concert, I'll pay to see a movie. I have no issue with entertainment, but don't expect me to pay to see the yankees then have aaron judge say fans need to pony up more, pay to see the movie then actor says pay me more or I'm not finishing the movie or thanks for paying for the concert ticket but the band wants extra and won't play without X number of dollars.
Part of the issue is the schools don't want to pay all sports athletes as employees and offer them 401k, health benefits, etc. Now the players are using their leverage to extort money. That's what's happening. For all the responses I've gotten because of my opinion I've yet to get one that says well it really isn't extortion. Isn't that surprising. Wild that no one has debated it and want a guy like Kurtz to get extorted because he can afford it. What a joke that is. LOL
Why hoops? why not omaha for the college world series, in okalhoma city for softball, volleyball, soccer, etc. He could afford to start a football program if he wanted and buy all your BC boys.
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I don’t think that truly wealthy people, those who are financially secure and successful, think this way. Someone like George Kurtz doesn’t get to where he is by discounting the value of money. That’s why they pay a King’s fortune to accountants, lawyers, financial advisers etc. to manage and grow their wealth. If you want him to spend $10M it needs to be a meaningful ROI or actually mean something to him.