Grocery cost question

TigerGrowls

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If you can't understand that there is no one willing to state a plan to lower grocery prices, yet you think thats going to happen, then you are a moron.
Trump does interviews and pressers daily. Just listen and you will get it all.
 

firegiver

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Trump does interviews and pressers daily. Just listen and you will get it all.
nah im good, just give me the documentation on the plan please.
Ya'll know what written word is right? Have documents? Post your plans, write them down yes?
 

dpic73

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OOPS! It's almost like we told you so.





 

fatpiggy

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nah im good, just give me the documentation on the plan please.
Ya'll know what written word is right? Have documents? Post your plans, write them down yes?
You are trolling or being obtuse. We have given you the answer several times. The schtick is getting old. You are in way over your head.
 

firegiver

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If you can't understand the answer maybe you should go back to kindergarten.

Bend over and take it like a man.
Oh will you just shut the hell up? You haven't presented a single plan here to lower grocery prices.

Care to explain how sodomizing me lowers grocery prices?
 

scotchtiger

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This has been painful to read… Seems to reason these are some of the puts and takes for grocery prices:

Tariffs should increase costs, but I’m guessing that tariffs on common groceries will be minimal.

At least in the short term, reducing illegal farm labor should increase costs. We need to replace with work visas so these people are here legally and we have the cheap manpower needed. They don’t need protection from the government on minimum wage and other work protections. They don’t have it now anyways. Vet them, register them, make them pay taxes, kick them out if they break the law. Very simple.

Lowering energy costs should lower prices.

Removing some regulations could lower prices, but I’m hoping RFK adds regulation to our food supply. We desperately need to remove harmful ingredients. If they do that, short term costs should increase.

TL;DR, not sure how prices actually come down. Maybe they do - not sure. Not betting on it though. I’m fine if they don’t if we clean up the immigration issue, diversify away from Chinese imports and improve the quality of our food supply. Hopefully all of those things happen.
 

dpic73

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TL;DR, not sure how prices actually come down. Maybe they do - not sure. Not betting on it though. I’m fine if they don’t if we clean up the immigration issue, diversify away from Chinese imports and improve the quality of our food supply. Hopefully all of those things happen.
It might be great for people like you in the 1% but what about all the people in the middle and lower classes who voted on the economy as their number one issue, per exit polling? Do you think they were thinking about those other issues when they were screaming for prices to come down now? Shouldn't they feel betrayed?

 
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scotchtiger

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It might be great for people like you in the 1% but what about all the people in the middle and lower classes who voted on the economy as their number one issue, per exit polling? Do you think they were thinking about those other issues when they were screaming for prices to come down now? Shouldn't they feel betrayed?



That’s for them to decide. We know higher levels of government spending and handouts are inflationary, and those are core to the left. It’s not like the alternative was better in that regard.

We will know more over time. Let’s see how things look in a year. It’s 2 years until voters get to weigh in on it.
 
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dpic73

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That’s for them to decide. We know higher levels of government spending and handouts are inflationary, and those are core to the left. It’s not like the alternative was better in that regard.

We will know more over time. Let’s see how things look in a year. It’s 2 years until voters get to weigh in on it.
You can just say he lied - he told them day one.

ROI had already come down to a reasonable percentage under Dems and his policies will do the opposite. That is not what the electorate voted for.
 

dpic73

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Embarrassing
I understand why you'd feel that way after posting hundreds if not thousands of times about inflation = theft.

Suddenly it's not that important to you anymore.

It's almost like you will adjust your stance based on what puts Trump in the best light.
 

firegiver

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This has been painful to read… Seems to reason these are some of the puts and takes for grocery prices:

Tariffs should increase costs, but I’m guessing that tariffs on common groceries will be minimal.

At least in the short term, reducing illegal farm labor should increase costs. We need to replace with work visas so these people are here legally and we have the cheap manpower needed. They don’t need protection from the government on minimum wage and other work protections. They don’t have it now anyways. Vet them, register them, make them pay taxes, kick them out if they break the law. Very simple.

Lowering energy costs should lower prices.

Removing some regulations could lower prices, but I’m hoping RFK adds regulation to our food supply. We desperately need to remove harmful ingredients. If they do that, short term costs should increase.

TL;DR, not sure how prices actually come down. Maybe they do - not sure. Not betting on it though. I’m fine if they don’t if we clean up the immigration issue, diversify away from Chinese imports and improve the quality of our food supply. Hopefully all of those things happen.
Imagine making 400k and being totally cool with grocery prices not coming down.

We were going to have to diversify away from China anyway. Biden took steps in that direction. China's population is collapsing. We will have to build infrastructure. Can we stop acting like blue collar jobs deserve bad pay and deserve to be renters only in a country where all the property is being gobbled up by trillion dollar corporations?


So here you have it. Grocery prices will continue to rise. The current administration will enrich themselves and their allies. **** everyone else.
 
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scotchtiger

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You can just say he lied - he told them day one.

ROI had already come down to a reasonable percentage under Dems and his policies will do the opposite. That is not what the electorate voted for.

lol. Anyone who believes the politician “day 1” promises is foolish. Kamala wouldn’t have fulfilled hers either.
 

fatpiggy

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I understand why you'd feel that way after posting hundreds if not thousands of times about inflation = theft.

Suddenly it's not that important to you anymore.

It's almost like you will adjust your stance based on what puts Trump in the best light.
Embarrassing
 

UrHuckleberry

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They look like total morons. They are economically illiterate.

They let inflation climb to 9% and are in here lecturing people about inflation. Total clown world.
Acting like that didn’t happen worldwide coming out of a global pandemic and just happened in a bubble due to economic policies alone fits your first sentence too FYI.

You can say better policies could’ve dropped it faster, or will get them even lower moving forward. But you’re not being genuine with that.
 

scotchtiger

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Acting like that didn’t happen worldwide coming out of a global pandemic and just happened in a bubble due to economic policies alone fits your first sentence too FYI.

You can say better policies could’ve dropped it faster, or will get them even lower moving forward. But you’re not being genuine with that.

Yup. Saying Biden was 100% responsible for inflation is as moronic as calling him a great jobs president because people were rehired after the shutdown.
 

fatpiggy

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Acting like that didn’t happen worldwide coming out of a global pandemic and just happened in a bubble due to economic policies alone fits your first sentence too FYI.

You can say better policies could’ve dropped it faster, or will get them even lower moving forward. But you’re not being genuine with that.
You act like democrats didn’t want to pass BBB.

Can you imagine if that bill had passed? Every Democrat, spare 1, voted for it.
 

UrHuckleberry

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Yup. Saying Biden was 100% responsible for inflation is as moronic as calling him a great jobs president because people were rehired after the shutdown.
Agreed

In both cases you could argue policies helped or hurt speed or increase or whatever, sure
 

dpic73

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lol. Anyone who believes the politician “day 1” promises is foolish. Kamala wouldn’t have fulfilled hers either.
LOL, of course we didn't believe it but that's not the point, Magas are crowing about "Winning" and a historic mandate while ignoring that the people that gave them that victory were upset about rising prices. He claimed at various times that if you elected him, prices would come down "quickly and "fast" and even "starting on day one".

Anyone with a scintilla of brain matter could see from a mile away that his policies would only make it worse, not better so he lied to those people and now that he has their vote, it doesn't appear to be a focus - he even admitted after the fact that it would be hard to bring prices down, but that's not what the voters expected.

And all of piggy's irrelevant economic theories are pointless because they don't address the promises he made to the voters.

 

dpic73

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ANEW

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Farmers had to kill millions of chickens because of bird flu epidemic that has been going on for years under the biden administration (am i doing that right?) that's the biggest driver of the increased cost and lack of availability of eggs.
 

dpic73

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Farmers had to kill millions of chickens because of bird flu epidemic that has been going on for years under the biden administration (am i doing that right?) that's the biggest driver of the increased cost and lack of availability of eggs.
You did it gud! Now there will be no more chicken massacres under Trump because its a deep state hoax perpetuated by Fauci!