Guess the Month for the DC Announcement
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First time head coach assembling his first staff. At a a school that got left behind to die on the vine by conference mates.
No they hired their HC! WR coach and asst from Bama tp his first HC job and he hired his DC in 2 weeks.
Greg ??? Still waiting
Your example further proves my point!
thank you
If your point is that you don't like GS, we get it.
You're like a juke box that keeps playing the same song over and over and over again.
And it's not one that most people wanna hear.
I don’t like Greg but that has little to do with his inability to hire a competent defensive staff 2 years in a row. That is just factual.
I appreciate the effort and your kind faith in the HC! Go RU
The live version of "Wade in the Water" was another one. Takes me right back to those times.
DCs are clearly overrated in Greg's book. He just can't have anyone mess up our bottom dwelling D. Can't have anyone make sure the D looks organized, knows where to be, and stop explosive plays. The D was decent, and at times very good in 2023, under an actual DC with actual players. Since Joe left, the D fell apart, yet GS as the D guru presides over this.
Anyone defending Greg on the DC search up to this point (I get it- holding hope it is someone in the CFP or in the NFL on a team in the playoffs) are either joining the crowd that is just pissed off or they think it must be a coach from one of the few NFL teams still playing.
This search is now just stupid.
This search is now just stupid.
The rumors about coaches not wanting to work for him are true. Not like a straight up blacklist or anything, but it's known as a tough job with not a ton of payoff (other than money), more specifically on the defensive side. Idk if Joe H had his own level of self-respect or competence that kept Greg at bay, could just deal with it, or bolted at the first HC job just to get out, but there is truth to it being tough to get some interested, esp people with other options.
The rest, regarding not being able to ID a single candidate wanting a pay day and promotion you're obviously right about, and it's perplexing.
He’s doing what you suggest. Problem is he’s working at the end of the list. Probably adding names at this point.
No we don’t. But someone has to do it. This is all just theater until Keli can make the change.
I’m not suggesting he wasn’t able to identify a candidate. I think there’s almost no chance that’s the case. Money talks and Greg’s coordinators have gone on to have plenty of success after working at Rutgers. The role isn’t some kind of black hole. It’s proven to be a perfectly fine stepping stone.
Greg is surely not easy to work for and the role most certainly isn’t for everyone but that’s not the reason it’s taking this long. He’s clearly been waiting for someone - has to be that. If we don’t end up with that someone after all this time Greg deserves all the criticism in the world for it because he’s been burned doing this exact thing before.
My only point was if folks are going to complain - just tell it like it is. Especially when the reality is clearly bad enough.
I’m pretty sure on the pod @Richie O said there were candidates identified and interviews conducted, but Schiano did not pull the trigger because he wasn’t sold they were the right person for the job…
Who knows how many interviews have occurred since then. That in part shows there was apparent mutual interest for several people it just didn’t work out yet
The concern is Greg is so intent on another home run hire he is letting perfection be the enemy of the good.
For all those people to crying about the complaining… Stop. It shouldn’t take this long regardless of Greg being difficult to work for. There surely is more to the story.
Who knows how many interviews have occurred since then. That in part shows there was apparent mutual interest for several people it just didn’t work out yet
The concern is Greg is so intent on another home run hire he is letting perfection be the enemy of the good.
For all those people to crying about the complaining… Stop. It shouldn’t take this long regardless of Greg being difficult to work for. There surely is more to the story.
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Every coach has a list of candidates. How somebody’s list can be so wrong is the problem. How does he not know how the person on the list will interview? At this level an interview is a formality rather than a discovery process. Especially when you are identified by the person doing the hiring.
My guess, though I don’t know for sure, is that he probably had his reservations about those candidates but hoped to be convinced in the interviews. All signs point to him once again having laser eyes set on a specific person who it’s looking more and more likely by the minute strung him along to leave his own personal options open but probably never had an intention to take the job. And somehow, Greg fell for it… Again. I really hope I’m wrong. But every day that goes by the signs point more and more to this possibility, sadly.
If that number is correct. Therein lies the problem. You don’t bring in people for interviews at this level of employment unless you know they are 1)in alignment 2)willing and able to take the responsibility 3) already vetted.
Both your 1&2 are needed , but for those considered for the position the in person does help the HC feel if they have the type of chemistry that makes for a successful relationship and a feeling of mutual trust is needed to work in harmony .Reading resumes and going by recommendations only goes so far.
Has nothing to do with reading resumes and recommendations. This is a fortune 100 level c suite position. No one is reading resumes and going off of 3rd party recommendations. It’s not like you reach out to the local head hunter and say send me a stack of resumes. He is working off of his list. These are people that landed on his radar and should have some sort of existing mutual respect and understanding.
If he never worked with them, in person is the best way to see if they click.
Sometimes just talking in general at social settings aren't enough to know if you really look at things the same way or have a slight difference on some aspects of the job .
Schiano should know enough about the candidate to feel he's the right man for the job, but personal interview are the way to be sure
GS is very deliberate in his decision making. Richie and Mike need relax. Constantly, bitching and moaning about isn’t going to change a thing.
Yea absolutely. But if you follow the 3 points listed above. You don’t go beyond 2-3 candidates at most. You don’t bring someone into your headquarters unless you know they want to be there and they will be a good fit. There are very few people in this very small profession that haven’t been in the same room. Especially at this level. They wouldn’t beon the list unless there was familiarity.
I’m sure Keli is following this closely and will be including it in her assessment of Greg next season.
Absolutely. Discussed this with multiple people. We all said the same thing.
I;m sure she's watching Steve Pikiell and Coquese Washington as well.
Seeing all 3 programs not producing good results would have her thinking about change and looking at which one
is first on the list.
As for DC hunt deciding Greg;s fate , W-L record and direction Keli feels it is going will be the main reason Schiano and the others stay or go. ( depending if Zinn is allowed to buyout one or all .)
So you think he's gone as the MBB HC and being thrust on Schiano so his buyout is covered
I posted a thread on Pikiell on the hoops board. Things may be looking up for him
Not that the Rant guys have any inside info but those guys made a comment that it’s very strange how many RU games Murphy has been attending lately - even ladies basketball games where there is no way RU will be competitive. They speculated that maybe he’s being courted for sugar daddy status? I have no idea what kind of relationship, if any, he has with the existing coaches but the idea that Zinn might target him (someone who has publicly supported RU as a politician and also has a lot of money) isn’t that crazy. Def something to watch.
$28mm from outside donations. RU got 8.5mm in 2024.
USC just named Gary Patterson as DC- he has not been a DC since 2000. He is 65 Years Old.
So, why not Bob Fraser at Rutgers? His bio says he graduated Allegheny in 1985- He is probably 62 or 63 years old.
Does he not want the position? Does Greg not want him to be the DC?
Does anyone remember how he was as co-DC 2009 and 2010 and as DC in 2011?
Greg thought well enough of him to bring him to Tampa Bay, Ohio State and back to Rutgers in 2020.
From his bio:
In 2011, his defense finished first in the Big East Conference in four defensive categories: total defense, scoring defense, pass defense and pass efficiency defense. It also ranked in the top 20 nationally in total defense (14th), scoring defense (eighth), pass defense (ninth), pass efficiency defense (fifth), sacks (15th) and tackles-for-loss (eighth).
In his first season as a defensive coordinator in 2009, Fraser helped the Scarlet Knights to a top-20 national ranking in six categories, including leading the nation in tackles-for-loss and ranking fourth in sacks. RU was 15th in the country in rushing defense, 16th in scoring defense and 18th in total defense.
Fraser was part of Rutgers' transition to the Big Ten, helping the team win eight games and the Quick Lane Bowl in 2014.
Resume:
2025-present: Rutgers (senior defensive assistant)
2023-24: Rutgers (senior analyst)
2022: Rutgers (senior advisor)
2020-21: Rutgers (linebackers)
2019: New England Patriots (coaching assistant)
2016-18: Ohio State (quality control)
2015: Rutgers (linebackers)
2014: Rutgers (special teams/linebackers)
2013: Tampa Bay Buccaneers (assistant defensive coordinator)
2012: Tampa Bay Buccaneers (linebackers)
2011: Rutgers (defensive coordinator/defensive line)
2009-10: Rutgers (co-defensive coordinator/linebackers)
2007-08: Rutgers (linebackers)
2006: Rutgers (assistant to the head coach)
1998-2005: Colgate (linebackers)
1997: Allegheny (linebackers)
1996: Northeastern (offensive tackles/tight ends)
1992-95: Holy Cross (defensive line)
1989-91: Allegheny (linebackers)
1987-88: Rutgers (graduate assistant)
1985-86: Allegheny (graduate assistant)
scarletknights.com
So, why not Bob Fraser at Rutgers? His bio says he graduated Allegheny in 1985- He is probably 62 or 63 years old.
Does he not want the position? Does Greg not want him to be the DC?
Does anyone remember how he was as co-DC 2009 and 2010 and as DC in 2011?
Greg thought well enough of him to bring him to Tampa Bay, Ohio State and back to Rutgers in 2020.
From his bio:
In 2011, his defense finished first in the Big East Conference in four defensive categories: total defense, scoring defense, pass defense and pass efficiency defense. It also ranked in the top 20 nationally in total defense (14th), scoring defense (eighth), pass defense (ninth), pass efficiency defense (fifth), sacks (15th) and tackles-for-loss (eighth).
In his first season as a defensive coordinator in 2009, Fraser helped the Scarlet Knights to a top-20 national ranking in six categories, including leading the nation in tackles-for-loss and ranking fourth in sacks. RU was 15th in the country in rushing defense, 16th in scoring defense and 18th in total defense.
Fraser was part of Rutgers' transition to the Big Ten, helping the team win eight games and the Quick Lane Bowl in 2014.
Resume:
2025-present: Rutgers (senior defensive assistant)
2023-24: Rutgers (senior analyst)
2022: Rutgers (senior advisor)
2020-21: Rutgers (linebackers)
2019: New England Patriots (coaching assistant)
2016-18: Ohio State (quality control)
2015: Rutgers (linebackers)
2014: Rutgers (special teams/linebackers)
2013: Tampa Bay Buccaneers (assistant defensive coordinator)
2012: Tampa Bay Buccaneers (linebackers)
2011: Rutgers (defensive coordinator/defensive line)
2009-10: Rutgers (co-defensive coordinator/linebackers)
2007-08: Rutgers (linebackers)
2006: Rutgers (assistant to the head coach)
1998-2005: Colgate (linebackers)
1997: Allegheny (linebackers)
1996: Northeastern (offensive tackles/tight ends)
1992-95: Holy Cross (defensive line)
1989-91: Allegheny (linebackers)
1987-88: Rutgers (graduate assistant)
1985-86: Allegheny (graduate assistant)
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