Shhhhh….. don’t you know you’re not allowed to blame coaching around here? The nut huggers aren’t gonna be happy with you!!!
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Somehow our defense has sucked for a couple of years and other good P4 teams are clamoring for our guys that sucked here. And for some reason- Rutgers used to = DBU but for tge past couple of years our DB’s forgot how to play…hmmmmm
Huh ? Half of the posts I read on this board are criticisms of the coaching staff. And a lot of it is valid if you consider acquiring players a significant part of coaching at this level. A good number of the defensive starters in 2025 were just awful and I couldn't figure what the coaches saw in them.
To quote an old saying "You can't make chicken salad out of chicken feathers.."
I think you missed the sarcasm in my comment… there are (some) posters who would willingly give GS a lifetime contract, today, based on one win 19 1/2 years ago …the same posters believe he would’ve won the national championship had he been coaching Indiana this year. Maybe they’re more prevalent on the RT but some of them definitely post here as well.
"clamoring?" I don't think that's the right word.
Anyhow, you can't be a long-time Rutgers fan and tell me that the DTs weren't the weakest we've had here in decades and the safeties weren't a downright embarrassment.
And when did Rutgers ever have a weaker pass rush ?
I would not hold my breath waiting for Murphy to take one penny out of his own pocket & give it to Rutgers
Well, it's mostly about coaching if you believe what some of my buds do....that college coaching is 90% recruiting.
I've been following Rutgers football for at least 60 years and one constant is that the best players in this state don't give Rutgers a sniff, with a few exceptions like Darius Hamilton. Going all the way back to the Frank Burns years I've watched one after another of the best New Jersey has to offer go elsewhere. Only one coach has ever made any inroads in that...and even Schiano seems to have given up with that as well.
Having watched all the others that Rutgers has given the head coaching job to over the years somewhat limits the amount of criticism I'm willing to give GS. And makes me laugh at those here who think some football genius is gonna come here....or stay very long if he does.
I've come to realize that most people in New Jersey don't give a crap about Rutgers football. Just ask them.
The head coaching job here is hard. And challenging the top teams in our league may be impossible.
No matter what just happened in Indiana, sadly I think it may not be possible here.
Better chance of Murphy hitting RU up for a no show job than being our whale.
Why do you believe he won’t? Just a feeling you have or you have actual statements from him?
Probably want a job for himself & his wife, both no show!
I don’t think so. He doesn’t need the money and doesn’t need a job. He certainly wouldn’t be subjecting himself to spectating women’s basketball beat downs for this reason, anyway.
I’m not suggesting he would be doing it to “give back”. I doubt that’s why Mark Cuban does it either. Some people get a thrill out of being regarded as a savior. It’s an ego thing and politicians with money, in general, often do fall into this category. Again - I have no idea if this is in the cards, we can only hope. But his past patterns with spending on other things for NJ or otherwise wouldn’t really be relevant to this motivation, if it’s there.
I'll never get over how bad the defense was after landing both O'Neill AND Weaver in the portal. It wasn't a case of not having the horses; multiple P4 teams were after both of those guys (and Texas Tech with their massive NIL war chest this cycle signed an edge rusher from the MAC with similar-looking numbers to Weaver).
Now, if I'm not mistaken there was a bit on a recent pod that mentioned Weaver was playing hurt pretty much all year, so that at least partly explains a lack of production, but those were both high, high-level additions. It's gotta go on the coaches that the defense - and especially the still-nonexistent pass rush - looked like it did.
Not sure you know what a no show job is. And he and his family are widely known to shake down in the political world.
Judging from all the circumstances, I’m confident that you are thoroughly mistaken
I don’t actually. What do you mean by a no show job in his case right now?
I see him right now as a guy who suddenly doesn’t have a job in politics and perhaps is looking for something to fill a void and an ego to go with it. He has a ton of money to play around with and he did take an interest in Rutgers sports while he was governor for whatever the motivation was. Of all the things he could’ve been doing to occupy his time, attending that ladies RU basketball beatdown from Maryland just seems like the kind of thing that has to have reasoning behind it. Again, probably wishful thinking, but… I don’t think the Rant guys were nuts in thinking of it at least. That’s all.
The thing is he and his family have been attending multiple RU sporting events over the years. One of the positive things he has done has been sitting baseline at basketball games and many other lower level events. Phil like any other politician needs to stay relevant. He thought he would be in a much more sought after stage in his political career at this point. He had much higher aspirations. But doesn’t have the credibility and achievements needed to take him to that level. So it’s no surprise he is still sitting courtside.
No show job is what it states. Getting paid for no actual work.
he does own a sports franchise thsat's turning a profit and has won 3 championships ( latest in 2025), so his involvement just might be the kind Rutgers needs .
When his wife became more involved with their professional soccer club, it became the type others want to become.
If their no show breeds the type of success on the field and type of profit their NWSL soccer club has been doing under their management ., we can only hope both of those no shows do the same if they get involved in making Rutgers a winner
Yeah that’s what I thought you meant. The thing with him though is he clearly doesn’t need the money so that wouldn’t be the motivation for wanting an easy job. On paper - it seems like becoming a RU big wig donor could be a perfect thing for him. Put him on the board, make him feel important, etc. All he has to do is write a check.
Yes, wishful thinking I know and you could be right. Maybe he thinks we’ll put him on the board or plug him in some advisory role simply for his resume having “governor of NJ on it”. It would look pretty bad though if he joined Amy Towers on the board and didn’t donate a cent. That would generate negative buzz towards him and that’s not really his MO. In fact, that was always my issue with him. I found that he never seemed to take a strong stance on anything (kind of in line with what you said in terms of not really wanting to get his hands dirty) and piss anyone off but then often times he’d get nothing done at all because of it.
What does that have to do with becoming our whale? His sports franchise that he founded with minimal funding and didn’t support until he called called out by his athletes via the media?
Murphy’s Clouded SkyBlue
It’s always easy to show compassion when you’re using other people’s money. New Jersey governor Phil Murphy is reminding us of that lesson, as a minor scandal erupts in the Garden State over his treatment of the players on a women’s professional soccer team that he owns. Press reports describe...
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Wishful thinking. I hope it’s true. But from my experience with dealing with all things Murphy. More likely for money to be going to their side of the table than the other.
what it has to do with is saying he'd be a no show ("Better chance of Murphy hitting RU up for a no show job than being our whale. ) making a franchise valuable with minimum investment is something to be envied and taking care of a mistake instead of hiding it or leaving it like it is should be commended , along with being condemned for letting it happen..
Just a shame he moved the team to a better venue for the players than work with the Rutgers Administration
yo improve Yurcak Field
from a google search >
Sky Blue FC left Rutgers University’s Yurcak Field after the 2019 NWSL season primarily because
the venue failed to meet the growing professional standards of the league, providing unacceptable amenities for players and fans. The club had used the field for several years, but poor conditions, lack of basic facilities, and low attendance forced a move to Red Bull Arena to align with other, more developed NWSL teams. <
I hope some of the animosity you have towards the Murphy's over the conditions their Sky Blue FC had to endure has some room for those in charge of maintaining Yurcak Field before it was upgraded in 2019
Maybe the Murphy's helped facilitate improvements by taking their club to Red Bull Stadium
because improvements happened
( results:google again)
- >Rodkin Center The 80,000 sq. ft. Rodkin Center, which opened in January 2021 across from Yurcak Field, provides dedicated locker rooms, lounges, strength and conditioning areas, and sports medicine facilities for the men's and women's soccer and lacrosse teams, along with two new practice fields.
- Playing Surface In March 2019, the field's playing surface was renovated, installing a new Kentucky Bluegrass surface on a sand base with an updated irrigation and drainage system to improve playability and durability.<
If that’s what you get from the attached articles than I don’t know what to tell you. His players and staff guilted him into getting more involved. He was one excuse after another prior to being called out by the media. Lots of maybes in your posting. The thing is I’ve had dealings with the Murphys Tammy more than Phil. She is very shrewd. But very little is done without “what can you do for me and my family”.
guess we'll agree to disagree what they can do for Rutgers by being involved in masking Rutgers Sports PArograms more successful on the field and profit wise.
You had dealings with them and maybe their what can you do for us could be getting the credit for making Rutgers football one of the top programs because of their efforts and turning that acknowledgement into people wanting to invest in their business ventures,
I don't know either personally, so I can't and won't disagree with your description of Mrs. Murphy
I don’t know a whole lot about them or any of the history with the soccer club being discussed here. I’m not one who gets too caught up in politics, not really my thing. Murphy has always struck me personality wise as the kind of guy who enjoys power but doesn’t like to get his hands dirty or work too hard. It’s certainly possible he’s cheap with his personal money to the point where the power and notoriety that would come with giving a significant sum to help RU sports and become a big wig at the school wouldn’t be worth it to him. But there’s no doubt he would enjoy a seat next to Amy Towers in those board meetings and the perception around Scarlet Nation that he “saved the day”, if he were to donate a large sum that preceded a drastic improvement in RU sports outcomes. Again - that doesn’t mean that enjoyment would be worth the price tag to him but it’s at least worth hoping for.
Not saying visually they wouldn’t be a net positive. All I said is I don’t think they’ll get involved. I hope they would invest but don’t think they will is all I’m saying.
- ( what I found by googling their generosity)
- 2nd Floor: The Murphys founded this teen helpline in New Jersey, which has fielded hundreds of thousands of calls to support youth in crisis.
- : The Murphys' charitable contributions increased significantly in recent years, reaching a five-year high of $692,732 on a $3.4 million income in 2024. In 2022, they donated approximately $501,217.
- Foundation Focus: The Murphy Family Foundation has supported various causes, including education, hunger relief, and combating domestic violence.
- Other Philanthropic Activity: Aside from direct charitable donations, the Murphys have used other vehicles, such as contributing $6.2 million to non-profit groups like New Start New Jersey and New Way for New Jersey.
- Primary Vehicle for Giving: Much of the family's philanthropy is directed through the Murphy Family Foundation, which supports initiatives such as fighting hunger, expanding access to higher education, and combating domestic violence.
We can hope they will, but not count on is makes us in agreement
Looking at all of the people and corporations we would like top see involved with Rutgers sports and bot doing anything to help makes me feel counting on the Murphys to help might be in vain, but one can hope ( not expect) they will ride in to save the day
Maybe the best move is make a DC auction:
auction off the position tothe highest bidder and hope someone will be willing to pay big bucks to add RU DC to their name
If horizon makes a big donation you can credit Phil. Phil pretty much kept their leadership out of jail the last 6 years.
There should have been criminal charges filed.
AG Platkin: Horizon Agrees to Settle False Claims Act Case for $100 Million - New Jersey Office of Attorney General
Attorney General Matthew J. Platkin announced that Horizon Healthcare Services, Inc., which does business as Horizon Blue Cross Blue Shield of New Jersey, agreed to pay New Jersey $100 million to settle allegations that it fraudulently induced the State to enter into a 2020 contract to...
www.njoag.gov
lets hope Phil wants payback and Horizon pays on demand.
Maybe pays a little extra so RU can finally buy a DC
( There should have been criminal charges filed.)If horizon makes a big donation you can credit Phil. Phil pretty much kept their leadership out of jail the last 6 years.
There should have been criminal charges filed.
AG Platkin: Horizon Agrees to Settle False Claims Act Case for $100 Million - New Jersey Office of Attorney General
Attorney General Matthew J. Platkin announced that Horizon Healthcare Services, Inc., which does business as Horizon Blue Cross Blue Shield of New Jersey, agreed to pay New Jersey $100 million to settle allegations that it fraudulently induced the State to enter into a 2020 contract to...
From what I could find out
>Lack of Evidence for Specific Individual Intent: While the state's complaint alleged that Horizon executives knew they could not meet certain cost-saving contract requirements (specifically the "lesser of" provision), the state's official investigation was unable to find sufficient evidence to support more extreme allegations originally raised by private whistleblowers.<
The agreement made Horizon pay $1.25 million , even though there wasn't enough evidence to charge their leadership with a crime
Horizon began making payments in 2022, including a $600 million upfront payment, with the total reaching $1.25 billion over 18 years. As of May 2025, Horizon had paid $725 million to the state.
In addition to the long-term, $1.25 billion deal, Horizon agreed to a separate $100 million settlement in November 2025.
Sometimes criminal action can't be taken, so other ways must be taken to make the guilty pay..
Horizon's leadership did the State dirty, but at least the State made that company pay and the NJ state government tightened its grip on the board, with leadership changes including replacing holdover members.
Not the type of results we want to happen in cases like this, but the it turned out fairly well seeing their wasn't enough evidence found to indite Horizon's leadership with a crime
Hopefully Schiano will find a DC soon and Horizon will cease to rule our interaction
Trust me there was more than enough evidence. The governor and AG made deals. You think they would publish the truth when it comes to 20 years of cover up of crime? There were many 3 letter fed agencies that also let the case die on the vine. Many of the c suite were allowed to retire prior to the announcements with large golden parachutes.
He's donating money. Wealthy people are highly incentivized via tax structures to do so. They only question is where is donating his money besides some far left NGO's or the like.