GULP...Bo Bounds: Miami contacts Mullen*

triton28

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Hudspeth is a Coordinator...
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eta... If we are going by that, then Diaz is a co-coordinator.
 

triton28

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But your statement was "On Paper Diaz is the better hire". Please list the two resumes and show me where on paper he is a better hire. Do I believe the d has improved- yes... tenfold-no. Do I believe the passing game has improved- yes I also believe that recruiting has improved.

Is it true that Diaz and Wilson can be applauded with the d being better? Maybe you can say Wilson should be the HC?

I just simply want to know why Hudspeth is less qualified than Diaz on paperbased on our defense being better this year.
 

Coach34

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just because Tressell had had head coaching experience at a lower level?

I like Manny and he may indeed be the guy of the future, but based on resumes, it's definitely Hud. The guy has a D-II national championship as an OC, and was successful as a Head Coach.

One could make the case that our returning experience made us alot better on D as well...

And I think our WR's are much improved from last year.
 

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Coach34 said:
just because Tressell had had head coaching experience at a lower level?

I like Manny and he may indeed be the guy of the future, but based on resumes, it's definitely Hud. The guy has a D-II national championship as an OC, and was successful as a Head Coach.

One could make the case that our returning experience made us alot better on D as well...

And I think our WR's are much improved from last year.
If we do not develop a passing game this season, we are not going bowling.
 

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loves MSU and wants to be there for a long time. In know some don't buy into that but I do.
 

MedDawg

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coach66 said:
loves MSU and wants to be there for a long time. In know some don't buy into that but I do.

Who doesn't think Diaz wouldbe hired awaysoon after succeeding at State as a head coach? Hudspethwould bemore likely to stay at MSUthan nearly any other candidate.
 

Coach34

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usually 1st time head coaches dont hire strangers to be their OC

Mullen was a young HC and wanted a veteran?

Les was recommended by a close friend Mullen trusts?


any number of these could be true
 

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Haven't seen that much of Hud on the Sidelines on TV, but Diaz has that "It" factor. He is fiery and in tents and just seems to have a HC aura to him.
 

Coach34

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I think either would do a good job...I was just arguing that Hud had the better resume...

I'd prefer Mullen stay 2 more years before we have to make this decision though
 

dawgstudent

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I think he would represent the university tremendously. The interview clips of him this season have been superb.

Plus, he succeeded at MTSU. He has succeeded at Mississippi State.

And like I said above, I'm not aGAINST Hudspeth. I just think Diaz would be a better hire. A

And to the paper part - Diaz is a SEC Coordinator. Hudspeth - even with his Div II success - is a SEC position coach. And for the Tressell argument - he came from 1-AA not Division II. Even Steve Campbell - with his Div II national championship - came to State as a position coach.
 

seshomoru

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Hudspeth spent one year in D1 football, and that was as OC at Navy. The won ZERO games that year. Jim Tressell, everyone's icon of why hiring from the lower division can work, spent six years as a D1 assistant, and three of those were with Ohio St. In his stint at Youngstown, not only did he win four national championships, but he also served as athletic director for six years. The plus side to Hudspeth's lower division coaching career was a hell of an offense one year at Delta St. as the OC, and a bunch of wins at UNA. I like him on the staff, probably as an OC. Not ready to coach a D1 program right now, though.

Diaz has been involved in D1 football since 1998. The last five as defensive coordinator. He began as a grad assistant working with Mickey Andrews and was part of a national championship team. He spent four years at NC State. The last two he coached safeties and special teams and those defenses finished first and eighth in the nation. He then spent four years at MTSU as DC.

I take the guy, who on paper, has much more D1 experience. Dan Mullen had never been a head coach, but had spent years as an assistant at successful programs. Diaz is more like Mullen than Hudspeth. I go with Diaz.

If you still want it on paper I can fax this to you.
 

triton28

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Maybe at some point Head Coaching experience, winning programs at every level including division one, local ties, recruiting connections, long term goals,and common sense will come into play when selecting a head coach.

If you want another 2 year coach, i say hire Diaz. Either way its a 2 year deal- win and get a promotion or lose and get fired.

He does look sophisticated in a white cap though.</p>
 

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for at least a year before he is our HC as well. Let's not forget that while at MTSU of all places, Manny was a big reason why they were able to upset Maryland twice and keep their team in some games that they really had no business being in based on their talent.

MTSU is a D-I school as well, of course.

Now, I like Hudspeth and he may very well be the next Dan Mullen for all I know, but Manny is definately more qualified at this point.

Also, lest MSU fans forget Bobby Wallace, who a lot of us thought was going to replace Jackie Sherrill circa 1996 before he pulled wins vs Alabama and Ole Miss out of the air to save his job, was phenomenal at North Alabama, and he did nothing at Temple aside from upsetting Virginia Tech one time. Yes, I know it's Temple, but as Al Golden is proving now, you can win there.
 

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triton28 said:
Maybe at some point Head Coaching experience, winning programs at every level including division one, local ties, recruiting connections, long term goals,and common sense will come into play when selecting a head coach.

If you want another 2 year coach, i say hire Diaz. Either way its a 2 year deal- win and get a promotion or lose and get fired.

He does look sophisticated in a white cap though.</p>
PM dawgstudent if he's the only one you want an answer from.

So your "paper" proof is he coached UNA, supposedly has good relationships with people in state, has goals, and then the concrete common sense? Not exactly hard evidence to support a hire.

To me, that sounds like a great person to have on staff. I just can't hand over the keys to an SEC program to someone who just finished their second year ever with a D1 program.
 

triton28

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factored in too. Conference championships, dominating records, you have to include those things if you are going to compare. You know as well as everyone that he had no chance at Navy. I cannot use what Bobby Wallace did at Templeas an indicator as whether he will be a good coach or not.

Hud wasnt qualified to be a D1 head coach 2 years ago when he was in D2, he isn't qualified now that he is part of our staff and is one of our main recruiters, but I assume that once he assumes a D1HC position and continues his winning record, maybe he will be worthy to be in the discussion. Until then, I guess I may as well hush.

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seshomoru

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You asked for their resumes. I wrote it out for you. You are totally irrational or you just hate Cubans.

Your last paragraph is correct, no matter how sarcastically you meant it. More D1 experience, then he'll get looked at.
 

triton28

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Then he was the first assistant hired. Mullen didn't know him from Adam. What does that tell you. Tells me he's already been looked at.
 

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I hate to say this because I always liked Out of Bounds in the morning. But since our Bama loss he has been piss-poor negative towards MSU. I think he has become the understudy to Finebaum and probably lusts after him at night when he goes to bed. I think he wants his show to be just as popular
 

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Having a record as a HC matters - and Hud has a gaudy one. Having run a program previously matters even though it was at a lesser level b/c he was competing against teams w/similar talent. Having a coach who wants to be at State and in Mississippi matters. All that said, Mullen ain't leaving here for Miami - he may leave here for a BIG time program later but it's not coming open this year.
 

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I might be wrong, but I thought that Hud had actually been hired before Dan.

If I am right, why wouldn't Byrne not just hire Hud as the HC?