It’s still impossible to understand how a school could allow its AD to hand out reckless contracts and be untouchable from those poor decisions. UK is not a serious football school and never will be until there is an overhaul from the board on down.
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Lol. You're not getting out for 50-60%. His agent is Jimmy Sexton.
Best, most logical, scenario is everyone realizes moving on is best for both parties. Stoops doesn't want to hit rock bottom with no support and UK can't pay 37 million 2 days after they term. So you work out whatever is needed to spread that 37 million over (x) years Bobby Bonilla style. Make him an ambassador or some ****.
Stoops taking and getting rejected from TAMU is what really throws a wrench in everything. Mitch should've pulled the plug then, like he did with Cal. Regardless, the buyout amount isn't relevant to the fan base that didn't negotiate the deal. So, after Vandy beats us by 50, I assume they'll figure it out.
I like your positive attitude and the fact that you have kept it up for so long but we aren’t beating Vandy, probably not UL and I guess we could beat FLA but I wouldn’t bet on it.
I understand losing faith and Stoops doesn’t deserve it at this point. That still doesn’t change the fact that Vandy, UF and UL haven’t done anything impressive to me at this point.
If we go back to Calzada I’ll be done, but as long as Cutter shows promise I’ll take my chances and know it’s for the best 1-2-3 years from now with that kid.
If we go back to Calzada I’ll be done, but as long as Cutter shows promise I’ll take my chances and know it’s for the best 1-2-3 years from now with that kid.
From your keyboard to God's ears. If we only lose 5 with this schedule, this will be a team for the ages.
I go back and forth about my expectations for this year. I've had a strange feeling since about April that next year we go to the Final Four and Pope wins a banner in Year 3 with a 96-esque team.
But I keep coming back to the fact that this team has a senior Otega Oweh. He makes game winning plays in the biggest games, time and time again. Florida won last year by surrounding Walter Clayton with size and shooting. Pope went out and built a similar roster this year.
I like my team.
-If you're not impressed with Vandy, you haven't watched them any.
-They are very fortunate schedule wise in that Florida and Auburn are historically bad (for them) but even still they're not as bad as us.
If Stoops has only beat 2 MAC schools and that’s trash, well Vandy has done no better considering Sellers was knocked out of that game in the 1st quarter.
That’s not to say I’m happy and think we are good, but literally Vandy will probably lose 4-5 in a row just like UK will and then all the Vandy hype will be nothing.
It’s a winnable game.
That’s not to say I’m happy and think we are good, but literally Vandy will probably lose 4-5 in a row just like UK will and then all the Vandy hype will be nothing.
It’s a winnable game.
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Have been to 2 previous Reds playoff games; 1 in 90 was sitting in RF when O'Niell threw out Van Slyke trying to tag from 2nd to 3rd. Also was there in 2010 when they were shut out by Hamels (Halladay had no hit them Game 1). Would love a chance to go to a 3rd if we can shock the world and the Dodgers.
Awesome to see us able to get in by winning 6 of 7 against the Cubs and Brewers.
Have been to 2 previous Reds playoff games; 1 in 90 was sitting in RF when O'Niell threw out Van Slyke trying to tag from 2nd to 3rd. Also was there in 2010 when they were shut out by Hamels (Halladay had no hit them Game 1). Would love a chance to go to a 3rd if we can shock the world and the Dodgers.
Awesome to see us able to get in by winning 6 of 7 against the Cubs and Brewers.
The end of half yakety sax BS is the epitome of the Stoops era. I don't think I have ever seen that to end the 1st half.
As strange as it sounds, I look at the UF game right now as much more winnable game than Vandy. 
Unless we figure out the forward pass, I don't see any winnable games other than Tn Tech.
Florida has a damn good defense.
If Pavia is playing we don't have a chance vs Vandy.
Florida has a damn good defense.
If Pavia is playing we don't have a chance vs Vandy.
Vandy has beaten VTECH and USC on the road by 20+. Somehow Vandy has done no better than wins over Toledo and E. Michigan?
All games are “winnable”. The problem is our staff has a lot of incompetent guys now.
Vandy knocked Sellers out of that game with less than 2 min left in the first half and Vandy was ahead by a touchdown at the time. Went on to blow them out on the road. If UK had done that, Barnhart would have given Stoops an extension.
Diego BradyVick will put up video game numbers against UK.
Diego Pavia is a Heisman finalist . . . or should be.
NOT SO FAST with Tennessee Tech. They are a highly ranked FCS school. They will come into Lexington with some fight and confidence. That ain't a guarantee at all.
It is extremely plausible that UK will lose out.
NOT SO FAST with Tennessee Tech. They are a highly ranked FCS school. They will come into Lexington with some fight and confidence. That ain't a guarantee at all.
It is extremely plausible that UK will lose out.
The only solution is a Bobby Bonilla annuity. That will keep the whole Stoops caboodle bathing in pork rinds and cheese curds for generations.
"People of Texas Roadhouse" would be a documentary I'd watch.
Reds give us one week to get us closer to basketball season.
"People of Texas Roadhouse" would be a documentary I'd watch.
Reds give us one week to get us closer to basketball season.
Great… now Vandy is the ‘85 Bears.
in Football, Coaching is EVERYTHING. We have a fat bald drunk… and it shows.
in Football, Coaching is EVERYTHING. We have a fat bald drunk… and it shows.
Lol, you mean the party with literally ALL the bargaining power doesn't graciously settle for 1/2 out of the goodness of their heart?
Stoops could dig in and there's probably not much we could do. Now, there's legit reasons why he wouldn't want to do that... but he absolutely could.
Stoops literally did what Cal did.... And yet Mitch only found his balls the 2nd time around. It all starts at the top
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So, the consensus seems to be that unless Stoops is willing to restructure the buyout, not in terms of the amount but the time period over which it is paid, we're probably looking at three more years of him, minimum.
It is impossible to overstate how much of a colossal **** up that contract was. In a way, it's fitting. Only Kentucky football could shoot themselves in the head like this. Actually, it is more akin to running over yourself, BY yourself, with your own car, on the day you paid it off.
It is impossible to overstate how much of a colossal **** up that contract was. In a way, it's fitting. Only Kentucky football could shoot themselves in the head like this. Actually, it is more akin to running over yourself, BY yourself, with your own car, on the day you paid it off.
No way Stoops comes back for next year… the schedule alone will be a humiliation that no money could keep his attention.
no matter how shítty, a coach respects their own legacy.
no matter how shítty, a coach respects their own legacy.
If that were the case he wouldn’t have come back after the A&M debacle or after the last 2 years. He ain’t walking away from that amount of money, not with an ex-wife and Jimmy Sexton the super agent.
Yeah, I feel the same way short of us winning a few unexpected games. It just seems we're on a similar path to last year where the wheels are falling off and the team will be as done as the fanbase by November.
Sure he can dig in and make it painful for everyone but then he's lost the administration(NIL) and fans. Another 3 win season and he's probably lost any chance of being a HC again, not to mention completely destroyed 13 years of mostly goodwill at UK. Where if he plays this correctly he'll obviously be in the HOF, Ring of Fame and building or field named after him.
The buyout amount is stupid enough, but what is really colossally moronic is the 60 day payout.
WTF?!?!?
Sure, UK is not the first school to agree to a ridiculous buyout amount, but immediate payment?
It's like UK wasn't even trying to protect its interests.
"Here are the keys to the vault, Piglet!
It's all you can eat, so help your fat self!"
WTF?!?!?
Sure, UK is not the first school to agree to a ridiculous buyout amount, but immediate payment?
It's like UK wasn't even trying to protect its interests.
"Here are the keys to the vault, Piglet!
It's all you can eat, so help your fat self!"
Someone mentioned it the other day - it's not just Mitch, the Board of Trustees oversees this stuff and presumably ratified Piglet's contract.
They have utterly failed UK's interests and should be fired too.
They have utterly failed UK's interests and should be fired too.
I still do not understand what kind of leverage Mitch thought Stoops had at the time to command such a lopsided buyout. It’s not like he was dealing with a coach with Saban like results.
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LOL, Stoops knows damn well he has flushed his coaching career down the shiiter. He is going to milk this lotto ticket for every $$$ possible. He will never see this kind of money again. Tarleton State is NOT paying him $9 mill a year, or lace his contract with huge buyouts.
Mitch also has proven he has no problem going against the fan base.
IMO, the buyout should be irrelevant. You don't make an offer you can't afford. Gonna be interesting to see how it all plays out.
- I don’t think Stoops takes a penny less than he’s owed. He’ll maybe stretch it but only if he really wants out.
- Completely disagree that he wouldn’t have a future in coaching. If he wants it he would be hired as a defensive coordinator at a blue blood for $2.5-$3M immediately. Do that for a couple years successfully and decide if he wants to go back to the HC grind.
- That said, I think he’s our HC next year.
- Completely disagree that he wouldn’t have a future in coaching. If he wants it he would be hired as a defensive coordinator at a blue blood for $2.5-$3M immediately. Do that for a couple years successfully and decide if he wants to go back to the HC grind.
- That said, I think he’s our HC next year.
A nice call back from 2023 when once again the college football gods looked down upon Lexington and said, lolz nope.
When I die, I want to come back to earth as a college football coaching agent. Forget Alabama versus Chattanooga or Brett Yormark versus George Kliavkoff. There is no more lopsided contest in this sport than Jimmy Sexton versus SEC athletic directors. He and his ilk have done a masterful job of exploiting schools’ emotion-driven coaching searches and amateurish negotiators to the tune of hundreds of millions in their clients’ bank accounts, whether they’re successful or whether they fail spectacularly.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5056968/2023/11/12/jimbo-fisher-buyout-college-coaches/
When I die, I want to come back to earth as a college football coaching agent. Forget Alabama versus Chattanooga or Brett Yormark versus George Kliavkoff. There is no more lopsided contest in this sport than Jimmy Sexton versus SEC athletic directors. He and his ilk have done a masterful job of exploiting schools’ emotion-driven coaching searches and amateurish negotiators to the tune of hundreds of millions in their clients’ bank accounts, whether they’re successful or whether they fail spectacularly.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5056968/2023/11/12/jimbo-fisher-buyout-college-coaches/
-There is a slight difference between Stoops and Cal. Stoops was just going to leave. May have reconsidered for a minute when
his tribe balked at going to College Station but the TAMU faithful revolt nipped it in the bud anyway. Cal was just using Arkansas to bilk us for more money and Mitch finally developed a nutsack. Don't think Mitch really wanted to end it with Stoops that way anyway so I can't really blame him in that instance. In hindsight, it was the wrong decision but 20/20 and whatnot.
-Anybody remember the video UK put out the first Signing Day after Stoops became coach? He got up in the wee hours of the morning, loaded up on coffee and was bouncing off the walls. When the season rolled around, he was coaching up players on the sideline and being an ornery bastard. We loved it. That guy isn't here anymore. Don't really care if the next head coach is an offense guy, defense guy or a non coordinator Urban type. The main requirement needs to be that he is hungry...very hungry.
-Can recall when you just hoped the Reds could get you through the summer to kickoff. My how the turn tables. Snell is one of the best to do it but feel like Hunter is going to be special tonight. Going to need him to be. Last playoff appearance was the Braves sweeping them during the Covid postseason and blanking them both games, even one where the Reds got 11 hits which seems unfathomable. Don't have a lot of hope of winning the series but just hope they win at least one and all 3 guns get to pitch in a postseason game.
his tribe balked at going to College Station but the TAMU faithful revolt nipped it in the bud anyway. Cal was just using Arkansas to bilk us for more money and Mitch finally developed a nutsack. Don't think Mitch really wanted to end it with Stoops that way anyway so I can't really blame him in that instance. In hindsight, it was the wrong decision but 20/20 and whatnot.
-Anybody remember the video UK put out the first Signing Day after Stoops became coach? He got up in the wee hours of the morning, loaded up on coffee and was bouncing off the walls. When the season rolled around, he was coaching up players on the sideline and being an ornery bastard. We loved it. That guy isn't here anymore. Don't really care if the next head coach is an offense guy, defense guy or a non coordinator Urban type. The main requirement needs to be that he is hungry...very hungry.
-Can recall when you just hoped the Reds could get you through the summer to kickoff. My how the turn tables. Snell is one of the best to do it but feel like Hunter is going to be special tonight. Going to need him to be. Last playoff appearance was the Braves sweeping them during the Covid postseason and blanking them both games, even one where the Reds got 11 hits which seems unfathomable. Don't have a lot of hope of winning the series but just hope they win at least one and all 3 guns get to pitch in a postseason game.