Not uneducated at all. You put any of them teams in that region LC is in they are in the region championship. LC is not blowing any of those teams out
Honest conversations need to be had.
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Just keep in mind... Varina won yesterday without SirPaul Cheeks... only played 2-3 games before season ending injury. Won without Darren Williams, ruled ineligible. Michael Farley who came from St. Chris played but not to his full potential as he was fighting stomach bug.
Varina dominated without 2 of the biggest additions to the team.
I remember my first championship game for Lafayette against Salem, I think 1997 or so, At Turner Ashby. Great environment and packed.
It's not about you being sorry or when you moved to Virginia. YOU made the statement that Va has ALWAYS been 6 classifications, and that statement was false. Unintentionally or not, it was inaccurate and I was simply pointing out that VA has not always been 6 classifications.
As for those "crying" about the classification system, I would argue those people are giving opinions (this is a message board for opinions) about how to make it better instead of "Crying"<-----your word. There have been many people in VA dating back to 1986 that 6 was too much and that 5 would do. The argument for 5 classes has been around for decades and is nothing new. Im one of those people. 5 classes is plenty. If you want to go to 4, then thats fine, but most people probably agree 3 is too few and 6 is too many.
The reason for lack of change? Money, Greed by the VHSL. Thats why we have 6 classes. We dont have 6 classes because the VHSL truly believes its the right amount for competition. We have 6 classes because that's more money for the VHSL.
Not true. When the VHSL first went to A, AA, and AAA in the 1970-71 school year there were three championships one at each level. Two championships didn't start until sometime in the 80s.
You brought Dinwiddie in this btw.. Varina, Dinwiddie, Louisa and Huguenot were the 4 best teams in C4 and all 4 played each other in the second round of the playoffs. Nobody is arguing that Varina isn’t the best team in C4. They are and deserved to bring it home.
I think we can all agree that Oscar Smith, Maury, and Varina separated themselves this year in their respective classes. Their average playoff margin of victories were 35, 34 and 32 in that order. Madison did give OS a run and Huguenot played Varina fairly close this post-season. Other than that, those 3 teams were the betting favorites fairly early and often in the season. I think a lot of folks said that the 14-13 clash in early September between Maury & Varina was a game between the top 2 teams in the state. Seems about right looking back on it.
What do we do about it? We tip our hat to 3 premier programs at the top of their games right now. Transfers, too many classes, unbalanced regional alignment…it’s all there for sure, no doubt. I think we would have loved to see six 4th quarter or overtime games yesterday. We got 1. August will be here before we know it and every team in the state will start with the same record. So I’m saying there’s a chance!
What do we do about it? We tip our hat to 3 premier programs at the top of their games right now. Transfers, too many classes, unbalanced regional alignment…it’s all there for sure, no doubt. I think we would have loved to see six 4th quarter or overtime games yesterday. We got 1. August will be here before we know it and every team in the state will start with the same record. So I’m saying there’s a chance!
Also, just curious, why is Handley in 4D? I was just doing some research on Google maps for fun and saw that they were only 45mins away from the 4C teams. Just seems weird. GW Danville is almost 4hrs away.
I agree
LU was bare. Very low attendance and it has been that way for years. I bet some teams didn’t even have 200 people
I had this same conversation with someone yesterday. I don't mind that they are playing at bigger stadiums but I wish they were all at the same site over the course of 2 days. Have Classes 1-3 play on Friday and 4-6 on Saturday. Game times at 11am, 3:30pm, and 8pm. Charge $12 per game or $30 per day or $50 for a weekend pass.
You called it earlier this year on Facebook that it should be the best 32 teams, no regions, and seed teams off of strength of schedules and records. That’s too much like the right thing to do.
That’s sad Wikki. I remember in 06 when Amherst played Louisa where the stadium was so full, we had to stand. Salem and LCA packed the stands even after renovations. Sad to see.
Watched the Glenvar vs Strasburg game, environment was lit!! Stadium was full. Liberty is a let down, looks empty, don’t even use the main score board. Pathetic. VHSL is a useless entity, High Schools in the state would be better served if it were dismantled and a different system/ committee was put in its place with clear rules and clear repercussions.
In today’s climate, making it harder to transfer, we will see more and more kids transferring to private schools. While I think there has to be some better regulating it, it will also come with consequences.
WV does Friday & Saturday games at same site. There was hardly a crowd at all for the noon game on Friday. It was not well attended. I will give them props- their coverage of games is a 100 times better than VHSL. The announcers are excellent. They also have replay option. Each team gets two challenges.
2016 - 4 one possession games 2 blowouts
2017 - 3 one possession games. 3 blowouts
2018- 3 blowouts. 2 one possession games. 1 eleven point game.
2019- 3 one possession games. 3 blowouts
2021(spring) - 3 one possession games.
1 14-point game. 2 blowouts(C6 semis both close games
2021(Fall) - 3 one possession games. 3 blowouts
2022 - No final within 2 TDs
2023 - 4 finals finished single digits - 1 two possession game - 1 three possession game.
2024 - 5 blowouts. 1 close game.
Seems like at best you will be lucky to have half of the games being 1 score games.
2 fold issue to me. Have to stop teams from consolidating talent. And need to reinvorgate some of these programs falling to the wayside.
2017 - 3 one possession games. 3 blowouts
2018- 3 blowouts. 2 one possession games. 1 eleven point game.
2019- 3 one possession games. 3 blowouts
2021(spring) - 3 one possession games.
1 14-point game. 2 blowouts(C6 semis both close games
2021(Fall) - 3 one possession games. 3 blowouts
2022 - No final within 2 TDs
2023 - 4 finals finished single digits - 1 two possession game - 1 three possession game.
2024 - 5 blowouts. 1 close game.
Seems like at best you will be lucky to have half of the games being 1 score games.
2 fold issue to me. Have to stop teams from consolidating talent. And need to reinvorgate some of these programs falling to the wayside.
As it has been said many times by people on here, recruiting and transfers are the big reason that we are seeing the same teams in these championship games every year and that blowouts are happening in these big games. So here are the problems:
1) Can't blame the kids for wanting to play for a better program get more looks from college coaches. So there for the rich get richer while the poor get poorer.
2) The coaching pool throughout the state as diminished, your good coaching staffs are staying together longer without moving on to improve the weaker programs. Why? Because support from the admin level is not what it used to be around the state. So why would a coach want to take over a program and try to rebuild them when there is no support and they are hitting walls at every turn.
3) Speaking of coaching... the pay sucks. Unlike other states where football is big and they pay coaches to just coach, in Virginia if you want to be a coach you basically have to teach and there are less coaches getting into education.
1) Can't blame the kids for wanting to play for a better program get more looks from college coaches. So there for the rich get richer while the poor get poorer.
2) The coaching pool throughout the state as diminished, your good coaching staffs are staying together longer without moving on to improve the weaker programs. Why? Because support from the admin level is not what it used to be around the state. So why would a coach want to take over a program and try to rebuild them when there is no support and they are hitting walls at every turn.
3) Speaking of coaching... the pay sucks. Unlike other states where football is big and they pay coaches to just coach, in Virginia if you want to be a coach you basically have to teach and there are less coaches getting into education.
This the one right here!! 2&3 are spot on!! I am speaking from experience with 2 and what KG is dealing with!! We couldn’t keep not one of them coaches that left and went to Spotsy! It’s crazy the DC or O line coach would have been perfect for us that’s at Spotsy now!! Admin has to get WAY BETTER
Question. Number 12 for Varina is Michael Robinson's son and there's number four Trey Rogers For Varina did his father play for Varina with Michael Robinson in the late '90s early 2000 we called him T Rogers