I see Rutgers playing in the Rose Bowl within 5 Years

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Not just you but the general "well Team X doesn't have to deal with a Big Ten schedule" isn't a good response.

That's why we are getting $80m a year while Kanasas is getting much much less.
We chose to have OSU, UM, PSU, Wisconsin and Iowa.
That's what the money is for.

We’re not getting $80M a year yet. That starts next year. Our support hasn’t mirrored that of our competitors which is why we have struggled.
 
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Dinosaur football!

This is why IF Schiano is fired, Hobbs needs to find someone whose offensive philosophy is tailored-made to the triple option, slow mesh, or Air Raid. Rutgers should be running once of those styles of offense.

It’s not the alignment, it’s the alignees. Our biggest issue is the lack of talent, not the style of offense we run. For years and years, people swore up and down, that all we needed to do was switch to the spread, and then we would win. We’re running the spread and we still aren’t winning because our players aren’t good enough.

We have never shown the ability to recruit the players that could be successful running the air raid. We have to differentiate ourselves and cater the style to the players that this area produces.
 

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Sorry you don’t get to enjoy the same in whichever backwoods place you moved to.
How’s the eHarmony profile doing?
 
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Uhhh you wanna pull up the teams we beat?

Al, there’s a difference between losing a game, and getting blown the hell off the field.

Last year Kansas put up 31 points and lost by a 7 to TCU, a team that wound up beating Michigan and ultimately played for a NC…

We got beat 37-0 and never crossed the 50 yard line by an unranked team team that was 0-3 in their previous 3 weeks coming in, little bit of a difference.

Al, honest question, what happens to RutgersAl if Greg gets fired? I know you refuse to acknowledge the possibility, but in an effort to start preparing you for the inevitable, are are going to be ok cheering for Rutgers with the same passion if we decide to move on from Schiano? This is a genuine question you need to start asking yourself because whether you like it or not, the results and ticket sales drive Pat Hobbs rescission making far more than whatever ‘RutgersAl’ has to say on the internet. You can continue to live in denial about the reality of the situation, but I’m trying to be civil and respectfully prepare a fellow RU fan for what could very easily happen in the next year or two

Overall attendance was good last year. There will be a dropoff this year due to last years results. This year will be good enough to inspire a sense of optimism, even if the W/L record is unchanged. If nothing else, we will be more competitive, and narrow the scoring gaps between us and our peers thanks to a much improved defense. Offense has a ways to go, and will be incrementally improved, thx to better talent, and an improving quarterback.

Rutgers still hasn’t built the football Fieldhouse. Schiano will get the time he needs to turn things around.
 

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It’s not the alignment, it’s the alignees. Our biggest issue is the lack of talent, not the style of offense we run. For years and years, people swore up and down, that all we needed to do was switch to the spread, and then we would win. We’re running the spread and we still aren’t winning because our players aren’t good enough.

We have never shown the ability to recruit the players that could be successful running the air raid. We have to differentiate ourselves and cater the style to the players that this area produces.
Lmao then why not just run what Wake Forest does or the Triple Option?
 

yessir321

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Overall attendance was good last year. There will be a dropoff this year due to last years results. This year will be good enough to inspire a sense of optimism, even if the W/L record is unchanged. If nothing else, we will be more competitive, and narrow the scoring gaps between us and our peers thanks to a much improved defense. Offense has a ways to go, and will be incrementally improved, thx to better talent, and an improving quarterback.

Rutgers still hasn’t built the football Fieldhouse. Schiano will get the time he needs to turn things around.
Al,

Who’se the better talent on offense?
 

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Overall attendance was good last year. There will be a dropoff this year due to last years results. This year will be good enough to inspire a sense of optimism, even if the W/L record is unchanged. If nothing else, we will be more competitive, and narrow the scoring gaps between us and our peers thanks to a much improved defense. Offense has a ways to go, and will be incrementally improved, thx to better talent, and an improving quarterback.

Rutgers still hasn’t built the football Fieldhouse. Schiano will get the time he needs to turn things around.
You better be praying every night that we don't get beat by either Northwestern or Temple, because if either of those games ends in a loss that "sense of optimism" you speak of you speak of will quickly turn into a spiral of negativity, despair, and worst of all for any program, fan apathy.
 

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It’s not the alignment, it’s the alignees. Our biggest issue is the lack of talent, not the style of offense we run. For years and years, people swore up and down, that all we needed to do was switch to the spread, and then we would win. We’re running the spread and we still aren’t winning because our players aren’t good enough.

We have never shown the ability to recruit the players that could be successful running the air raid. We have to differentiate ourselves and cater the style to the players that this area produces.
You do know the air raid and spread offenses were created to neutralize superior athletic talent and overall size discrepancies? They were designed to be the easiest to recruit and plug and play personnel.

You think what we were running is/was the spread or RPO. We were running out of a spread formation but we weren’t running a true spread. We said we were running an RPO but you can’t truly run the “RPO” if the option is predetermined (hand off, keep or pass to x receiver).
 

Knightmoves

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You better be praying every night that we don't get beat by either Northwestern or Temple, because if either of those games ends in a loss that "sense of optimism" you speak of you speak of will quickly turn into a spiral of negativity, despair, and worst of all for any program, fan apathy.
NW opening game is the litmus test for the 2023 season. An unhappy recap in that one will send RU fans scurrying for the exits in supporting the team.
 

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It’s not the alignment, it’s the alignees. Our biggest issue is the lack of talent, not the style of offense we run. For years and years, people swore up and down, that all we needed to do was switch to the spread, and then we would win. We’re running the spread and we still aren’t winning because our players aren’t good enough.

We have never shown the ability to recruit the players that could be successful running the air raid. We have to differentiate ourselves and cater the style to the players that this area produces.
RU has been running the spread and not winning because the coaches haven't been good enough.
 
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RU has been running the spread and not winning because the coaches haven't been good enough.

The coaches haven’t been good enough because the players haven’t been good enough. And the players haven’t been good enough because we haven’t been able to recruit well enough. And we haven’t been able to recruit well enough because the program hasn’t been supported enough.

There’s a reason why Princeton has 15 NCs and Rutgers has 0. Princeton alumni supported their football program, while Rutgers alumni did not support their football program to the same extent.

This is a problem that has spanned generations, so I’m not sure why some expect Schiano to solve the problem in four years. It’s ridiculous. This is a slow build because the support isn’t there for there to be a fast build. We can easily be like USC and buy our way to success. But the support isn’t there.
 
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The coaches haven’t been good enough because the players haven’t been good enough. And the players haven’t been good enough because we haven’t been able to recruit well enough. And we haven’t been able to recruit well enough because the program hasn’t been supported enough.

There’s a reason why Princeton has 15 NCs and Rutgers has 0. Princeton alumni supported their football program, while Rutgers alumni did not support their football program to the same extent.

This is a problem that has spanned generations, so I’m not sure why some expect Schiano to solve the problem in four years. It’s ridiculous. This is a slow build because the support isn’t there for there to be a fast build. We can easily be like USC and buy our way to success. But the support isn’t there.

Yeah, but the only one posting here who was alive for any of those NC's is @beaced
 

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We would mirror Kansas’ wins because we would be able to run the ball, which changes everything. We were 7 points from 6-6, even though we played a much tougher schedule. This years team will have a **** at 6-6, though the floor is 4-8.
Rutgers couldn’t beat Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, MSU or Maryland last year but they would’ve been 6-6 in the B12 only because they’re a B10 member.
 

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If the P.S. 101 football team went from 0-10 at the high school level to 8-4 in a P5 conference in 1 season Al and others would argue that they had advantages Rutgers just doesn't have. They've invented this notion that Rutgers has more disadvantages than any other program in the history of sports anywhere in the universe and they'll cling to it forever to defend Schiano's underwhelming coaching.
 
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brgRC90

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Rutgers couldn’t beat Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, MSU or Maryland last year but they would’ve been 6-6 in the B12 only because they’re a B10 member.
You can't win in the Big 12 with a non-functioning offense. You can't win anywhere these days with a non-functioning offense. In fact, the Big 10 is the easiest place to eke out wins with a joke of an offense because it has many other bad offenses. Our record would've likely been worse anywhere else.
 
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You can't win in the Big 12 with a non-functioning offense. You can't win anywhere these days with a non-functioning offense. In fact, the Big 10 is the easiest place to eke out wins with a joke of an offense because it has many other bad offenses. Our record would've likely been worse anywhere else.

Our offense would not be non-functioning in the Big 12 because we’d be able to run the ball. Couldn’t do that vs Ohio State, Michigan, PSU, and others.
 
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If the P.S. 101 football team went from 0-10 at the high school level to 8-4 in a P5 conference in 1 season Al and others would argue that they had advantages Rutgers just doesn't have. They've invented this notion that Rutgers has more disadvantages than any other program in the history of sports anywhere in the universe and they'll cling to it forever to defend Schiano's underwhelming coaching.

We throw up the football field house, and Schiano won’t have any more excuses. Schiano told Rutgers he needed a Fieldhouse to recruit and they agreed to write it into his contract. Where’s the Fieldhouse?
 

Knightmoves

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We throw up the football field house, and Schiano won’t have any more excuses. Schiano told Rutgers he needed a Fieldhouse to recruit and they agreed to write it into his contract. Where’s the Fieldhouse?
Al,

Where are the sketches of the Fieldhouse?
 

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Our offense would not be non-functioning in the Big 12 because we’d be able to run the ball. Couldn’t do that vs Ohio State, Michigan, PSU, and others.
What makes you think RU would be able to run the ball with any effectiveness against B12 teams? They've been generally ineffective running the ball consistentlyagainst most of the B1G, even the teams that aren't elite.
 

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We throw up the football field house, and Schiano won’t have any more excuses. Schiano told Rutgers he needed a Fieldhouse to recruit and they agreed to write it into his contract. Where’s the Fieldhouse?
The field house is no panacea. But I was at a fundraiser where Schiano said he would spearhead the commitment of 50% of the cost. Has that been realized?
 
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You do know the air raid and spread offenses were created to neutralize superior athletic talent and overall size discrepancies? They were designed to be the easiest to recruit and plug and play personnel.

You think what we were running is/was the spread or RPO. We were running out of a spread formation but we weren’t running a true spread. We said we were running an RPO but you can’t truly run the “RPO” if the option is predetermined (hand off, keep or pass to x receiver).
You also can't run a read based offense when your players can't read defenses or defenders because they were never taught how. The ability to read the reaction of a defender is the fundamental basis of these systems. It's not enough to say "we're going to spread people out more" (McNulty) or "we're going to use tempo" (Mehringer). You actually have to teach the fundamentals of the system for it to work, something that multiple RU OCs in the last few years have not done.
 

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You also can't run a read based offense when your players can't read defenses or defenders because they were never taught how. The ability to read the reaction of a defender is the fundamental basis of these systems. It's not enough to say "we're going to spread people out more" (McNulty) or "we're going to use tempo" (Mehringer). You actually have to teach the fundamentals of the system for it to work, something that multiple RU OCs in the last few years have not done.
That was my point. It wasn’t necessarily an “alignee” or an “alignment” problem as was stated earlier. But a philosophical and coaching/teaching issue. You have to commit to the offensive philosophy. You also have to teach and trust the players to make the proper reads and perform.
 

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We throw up the football field house, and Schiano won’t have any more excuses. Schiano told Rutgers he needed a Fieldhouse to recruit and they agreed to write it into his contract. Where’s the Fieldhouse?
A new field house means nothing .
 

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We throw up the football field house, and Schiano won’t have any more excuses. Schiano told Rutgers he needed a Fieldhouse to recruit and they agreed to write it into his contract. Where’s the Fieldhouse?
A fieldhouse is not the reason this team couldn't score a FG against Maryland. Teams with weaker recruiting classes than ours do more.
 
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The field house is no panacea. But I was at a fundraiser where Schiano said he would spearhead the commitment of 50% of the cost. Has that been realized?

The Fieldhouse is a panacea because it’s currently held against us on the recruiting trail. The plan is now to use the increased media payout to fund the new building. At least that’s what Schiano said.
 
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A fieldhouse is not the reason this team couldn't score a FG against Maryland. Teams with weaker recruiting classes than ours do more.

We want to be able to do more than score field goals against Maryland. We want to score a lot of touchdowns against Ohio State. That takes talent, a lot of it. Once we have an adequate base of talent, we’ll be able to do more. Need lineman who can block, QBs who can throw accurately, and WRs who can catch, even when the ball is not perfectly thrown.

Without a Fieldhouse, we’ll be able to get to .500 and maybe slightly better as we did go 9-4 in 2014.
 
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The Fieldhouse is a panacea because it’s currently held against us on the recruiting trail. The plan is now to use the increased media payout to fund the new building. At least that’s what Schiano said.
Not having a Field house on the recruiting trail is the least of our worries. Not having competent offensive coaches is what is keeping athletes away. Not a field house. Again I want this to succeed but I am realistic to know where the blame lies. The blame for success has already shifted from lack of field house to NIL. The reality is we haven’t been successful in recruiting because we haven’t been successful on the field.
 
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That was my point. It wasn’t necessarily an “alignee” or an “alignment” problem as was stated earlier. But a philosophical and coaching/teaching issue. You have to commit to the offensive philosophy. You also have to teach and trust the players to make the proper reads and perform.

It absolutely is an alignee/alignment problem. You’re not going to be able scheme Shameen Jones open when he is going up against Deonta Banks or Joey Porter no matter what offense you use.

Our offensive philosophy is to run the ball. Our program identity is to play tough defense
 
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Not having a Field house on the recruiting trail is the least of our worries. Not having competent offensive coaches is what is keeping athletes away. Not a field house. Again I want this to succeed but I am realistic to know where the blame lies. The blame for success has already shifted from lack of field house to NIL. The reality is we haven’t been successful in recruiting because we haven’t been successful on the field.

You can boost recruiting if you build the Fieldhouse, the same way the APC has helped boost basketball recruiting.
 

brgRC90

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We want to be able to do more than score field goals against Maryland. We want to score a lot of touchdowns against Ohio State. That takes talent, a lot of it. Once we have an adequate base of talent, we’ll be able to do more. Need lineman who can block, QBs who can throw accurately, and WRs who can catch, even when the ball is not perfectly thrown.

Without a Fieldhouse, we’ll be able to get to .500 and maybe slightly better as we did go 9-4 in 2014.
Repeat: we don't need a Fieldhouse to score against Maryland. We need better coaching.
 
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It absolutely is an alignee/alignment problem. You’re not going to be able scheme Shameen Jones open when he is going up against Deonta Banks or Joey Porter no matter what offense you use.

Our offensive philosophy is to run the ball. Our program identity is to play tough defense
Al it’s not an alignee/alignment when it comes to saying we run a spread or RPO offense. It’s a scheme problem. Because we were not truly running either of those schemes.
 

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You can boost recruiting if you build the Fieldhouse, the same way the APC has helped boost basketball recruiting.
That not what boosted recruiting. Winning stability of program and good coaching is what boosted recruiting. Because if the APC really mattered the women’s basketball program wrestling team and gymnastics teams would have seen a boost. There has been no progress in recruiting or results in any of those programs since the APC has been built.
 
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Al it’s not an alignee/alignment when it comes to saying we run a spread or RPO offense. It’s a scheme problem. Because we were not truly running either of those schemes.

Our players inability to block, throw or catch isn’t a scheme problem.

Even if we ran a spread or RPO, it wouldn’t make a difference, imo.

Point is Temple ain’t beating Ohio state no matter what scheme they run, and neither are we.
 
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That not what boosted recruiting. Winning stability of program and good coaching is what boosted recruiting. Because if the APC really mattered the women’s basketball program wrestling team and gymnastics teams would have seen a boost. There has been no progress in recruiting or results in any of those programs since the APC has been built.

The new APC has helped in addition to the factors you mentioned. You have to be strong across the board. Similarly, Schiano will be able to get this program to decent with the status quo. But to get to challenge the conference elite we need a Fieldhouse, so that we can recruit on the requisite level. It is going to be built.